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Some friends would call the following article biased but it shows how is US in control of the things in Pakistan. Some of the naz-nakhrai that Musharaf and his military & CO make is just to get some more attentions and dollars as well.
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/17157.asp
In the last few years US has given Pakistan 10 billion dollars in aid…The rulers of Pakistan are not made of stuff to say no to their masters in Washington…this deflates the analysis of the psuedo-analyst above.
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Durand Line: Fazl echoes his master’s voice (Feature) http://khyberwatch.com/nandara/images/M_images/pdf_button.png http://khyberwatch.com/nandara/images/M_images/printButton.png http://khyberwatch.com/nandara/images/M_images/emailButton.png Sunday, 02 September 2007 KABUL: Experts say a decision on the controversial British-era borderline - called Durand Line - is the discretion of people living on both sides of the troubled frontier. Governments in Kabul and Islamabad, they believe, should have no say in sorting out the complex problem touching the lives of millions of tribespeople.
On Thursday, a pro-Taliban Pakistani political leader urged Kabul to recognise the frontier - named after British diplomat Sir Mortimer Durand who arbitrarily drew his pencil along a map in 1893, dividing British Indian territory from fiercely independent Afghanistan to the north and west - as an international border.
Addressing members of the Balochistan Bar Association in Quetta, opposition leader Maulana Fazlur Rehman claimed such a move by Kabul would help defuse tensions between the neighbours besides checking Indias ‘extraordinary activities’ on Afghanistan’ s soil - posing a grave security threat to Pakistan.
But the nostrum from the MMA leader evoked a thoroughly negative reaction from Afghan intellectuals and commentators, who believe Rehman has gone beyond the call of duty in floating the proposal. To this day, they pointed out, neither Afghanistan nor the Pashtun tribespeople on both sides of the border recognise its existence.
Political analyst Muhammad Hasan Wolesmal, speaking to Pajhwok Afghan News, argued formal recognition of the Durand Line by the Afghan government had been a long-cherished desire of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). Pakistans premier spy agency, which could not achieve the goal by propping up the Taliban regime for six years, was now in a bid to exploit the position of President Hamid Karzai and the United States.
As an ISI servitor, Rehmans idea is in fact his masters voice, remarked Wolesmal, who thought: This demand from the bigmouthed Maulana is untenable. Even Karzai and Bush cant decide unilaterally on the dispute. Raking up the knotty issue will spark a devouring fire that could not be put out.
Regional Studies Centre head Abdul Ghafoor Lewal also opined peoples, not governments, were authorised to settle the long-running dispute. The JUI-F chief was not supposed to raise the question, he felt, but the Pakistan government used irrelevant people to rake up such controversies. In promoting core national interests, our religious scholars should take their cue from Rehman - so loyal to the Pakistan government.
The Durand Line spat was an international row that could not be resolved by the MMA firebrand, Musharraf or Karzai, said legislator Shukria Barakzai. The female lawmaker accused the rightist of always parroting Islamabads views on strategic subjects. The wrangle should be left to the best judgement of the masses affected by it, she maintained.
In his speech to the lawyers, the opposition leader also rejected the joint Pak-Afghan Regional Peace Jirga as a failure in that representatives from a key party to the conflict (Taliban) were not invited to it. Again, this opinion was spurned by observers.
Wolesmal scorned the statement as baseless, insisting all parties were invited to the grand gathering. Certain groups boycotted the meet at the behest of ISI, which wanted to project the jirga as a damp squib. Rehman too was among the invitees but the ISI did not permit him to attend, he alleged.
For his part, Lewal hailed as a roaring success the peace jirga, which he hoped would help bring the neighbours closer and foster understanding between them. It was a good beginning, he reiterated, urging the two sides to press on with similar confidence-building measures (CBMs).
Rehmans pessimism was essentially linked to the rejection of certain demands from the Pakistan government that sought privileges for Gulbadin Hekmatyar and others dissidents, claimed Barakzai. The Afghan delegates were dismissive of those demands, she added.
Dr Said Ghulam Farooq Mirani, a parliamentarian from the eastern Nangarhar province, characterised Rehmans address as his personal views. He slammed the Maulana for shifting his opinion on Afghanistan all too often and without any convincing reason.
Seen as a staunch supporter of Taliban, Rehman listed the presence of NATO and US forces in Afghanistan as the main reason for regional tensions. But Barakzai contended the problems existed before the NATO and US forces deployed to the region.
Parliamentarian from Kunduz Moeen Mrastyal said NATO and US forces were in Afghanistan to support the Afghan government. He warned of a return to civil strife if the foreign troops withdrew from the country, something insurgents wanted to happen at the earliest.
Aug 25 (Pajhwok Afghan News)
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I would not give too much credence to the analysis above. One analyst with an overactive imagination.
We don't need proof of US influence on Pakistan, even the NYTimes has stated as much.
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Let me say few words about this Zaid Ahmad Brasstaks analyst (I'll reply on Durand line separately)---
Well he seems to be well read and articulate guy. Unfortunately he suffers with cold-war era delusions like so many leftie tinker-tanker thinkers in Pakistan. Funny how the host "Ahmad" is having mental multiple-orgasms at every little conniving, visibly winking "revelation" by this brasstaks guy.
Unipolar vs. multi-polar worlds exists only in the minds suffering from severe dementia and bipolar disorder.
China-Ruskie alliance facing off the West? hahahahha.
If Commie-Soviets at their peak were a swallow compared to the Western powers, this new alliance is a cabal of two dung beetles and their lackey dust mites aka Talibanic moronic gangs.
The reason why I say they are the twin beetles is simple! It is economy dudes!
Zaid winks at SCO as some knight in shining armor coming to save Pakistan and this fully defunct "Muslim world". It is simply the hight of this Zaid guy's ignoromous shenanigans. SCO is a wee-bit higher compared to the almighty Oh-I-See (OIC). Sure they have some weapons to show off, and some toys to threaten itsy bitsy teeny weeny client states. But this is a huge stretch of imagination to put these dung beetles in the same league as NATO! Let alone US of A.
No matter how we reinvent Pakistan, it can never play a useful member of SCO. The very existence of Pakistan, and Afghanistan means an antithesis of SCO. The reason is that SCO is there to stop Central Asians from shipping their gas or oil down south through Afghanistan-Pakistan route.
Ruskies want every line, every whiff of gas, and every drop of C. Asian oil to go through Ruskie controlled corridors. So the only thing moronic Talibanics can do is create chaos in Afghanistan and Pakistan, while an openly leftie BLA destroys Pakistan's dreams to invest in Balochistan oil and gas production or transmission resources.
Dudes! Wake up! Pakistan cannot pick SCO, or Turks, or Iranians as "allies" in this fast changing world. As all of these sometimes friendly entities do not want Pakistan to become a regional power, or a pipeline route.
So every Zaid (brasstaks), Hamid (PTV), Omar, and bakra bakri who champion Pakistan's "independence" from the West are nothing but commies in sheep's clothing. If the true industrial giants like Germany, Japan, South Korea, France, etc. are utterly dependent on their alliance with US of A, then how in the hell Pakistan can with its current lowly economy can ever be "independent"?