Many here are very enthusiastic about Islam.
Well, Pakistan mein…there are many suffering muslims.
Do we have a moral Islamic obligation as muslims to go work in those countries, with our extpertise knowledge in whatever, for the betterment of the muslim Ummah?
I’m using Pakistan as an example. You could go work in Sudan if you wanted to.
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The suffering are a result of ONE major problem.
Fix that problem and all shall be well. :)
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The present crisis/ suffering has been created by the people of Pakistan not the country/land of Pakistan. Pakistan is a country rich in natural resources. There are five rivers and lots of alluvial agricultural land. It doesnt need outside help.
regards,
bob.
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Right, and we're the people of Pakistan. So is it our moral obligation as muslims to set things right in a country we and our own people have messed up.
Exactly sharaabi - that big problem is our own people...you know the ones that run away and then do good in other countries as if its next to impossible to stay in our own country and do good?
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No the big problem is us ASSUMING stuff and passing judgements on others, when we have no clue who they are.
You’r trying to come up with the same damn stuff in your every post. I left Pakistan and settled in this country. Well, to tell you the truth, we both have one thing in common. NONE of us were born or bred in Pakistan. So if i were to be blamed for for betraying Pakistan so shall you be. 
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I am not betraying Pakistan at all, because Inshallah, I plan on going back and doing some projects there in the future.
My post specifically asks AFTER you've gotten your education/training, etc, and are an expertise in whatever you're doing. You can only help when you know what you're doing.
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Bob, the agricultural value of the country is decreasing day by day, these alluvial lands are weakened due to silt and waterlogging, and its time we look towards other resources, i.e. the people, and their skills. Our nieghbours realized this a while back and are doing pretty good. And yeah, these rivers are just flowing because of a treaty which is nearing/neared its end.
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But can't that be reversed? If the right ecologists come into play and try to make some good environmental plans, I think even Sindh can become lush again with vegetation, and the drought in Balochistan can be ended once and for all.
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I am one of your kind. I am born, raised and educated in Lahore. I totally agree with you. I plan to go back and apply what I have learnt so far here in the United States. I am currently doing my post graduate training, but I have an obligation being a pakistani and a Muslim to serve the country which has given me so much and because of that I am what I am today.
Inshallah, my plan is not to go there with beautiful dreams and high hopes. I have a clear idea that I’d have to face difficulties but the question is, didn’t I face hardships here for 3 years and did odd jobs to get something after 3 years. Why we become so narrow minded when it comes to Pakistan?
Inshallah, I plan to go there with an intention to create resources for myself and other able people, who deserve a hand. If Allah has made me something today, He(SWT) will definitly ask me on the judgment day, how did I use my capabilities in the best manner. I believe, it is a test for me from Allah SWT, “Lets see what he does when I bless him with something”.
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I sincerely appreciate your thinking and motive to start this thread and put forth this dimension. Here you are. You got company, and an admirer. Similarly, “qatra qatra kar key dariya banta hai”… I am sure, this is how we all can join hands …
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The silting and waterlogging is a man made problem, resulting from the greed to extract maximium short term gains at the expense of the long term health of our natuaral resources. Like I said, “The present crisis/ suffering has been created by the people of Pakistan not the country/land of Pakistan. Pakistan is a country rich in natural resources. There are five rivers and lots of alluvial agricultural land. It doesnt need outside help.” Our people know exactly what needs to be done. There isnt a shortage of people with technical know how. There just isnt the desire/ will to take care of the country. And you cannot bring people from other countries to teach people how to be civil and take care of things.
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The answer is yes. Any help is good for Pakistan by any means.
Thank you PCG for bringing it on.
(In last few posts the topic is drifted away from original intention of the thread.)
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Thank you for bringing it back. I was just thinking how no one has really answered the question just now when I was opening the thread. Aap ki zindagi bhari lambi hogi.
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rashguy..i notice from your posts that u tend to entice negative reactions..not good..is it intentional ?
If others are making an argument, try to remain humble and modest in your response, rather than degrading others opinions..u must remember that everyone will have a viewpoint (just like u!!) and if u don't agree with it u don't have to resort to these levels.
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doc2000
Thanx for the advice dude...
Let me disagree with ur view pts without being disagreeable !!!
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Thats appreciated rashguy..At least you have the balls to say that, unlike others on this forum..
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Well as far as i think that the ppl only leave Pakistan if they are weak or are so much bashed by the society on the basis of $$$$ and lack of oppurtunities. So they leave ... Well i was really bashed by my point of view because i get free air tickets to go anywhere in the world and all my friends say that what are you still doing here Go to America or UK.. But my answer is simple i cant live without Pakistan. Its a fact .. i have been all over the world and never found the same thing that is in pakistan.
I was doing My Bsc when my whole family shifted to USA. I did Bsc and followed them i was about 19 yrs old at that time. Well those 3 months were the most unbearable for me despite all the comforts i felt like i was in hell. Those were the 3 months that made me realize that i cant live without PAK ... Despite all my family being in USA. I have never lived in another country more than 4-5 days i simply cant. ppl think that people who adore corruption adore pakistan as well.
I will totally disagree with that I love pakistan for unknown reason. I think its becuase of this smell of confidence, finding comfort in discomfort, calling politicians corrupt :p and all the little things about this country.
Now i have done my MSC in Geo physics and it has been 4 years and my family is still in USA and i have the best JOB that i can ask for but still the corruption in this country hurts the hell out of me. But i still love it because I can say that "this is my country".
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I'm too lazy to read the whole thread, so apologies if this has alreqdy been said. :)
The problem is definitely not the people of Pakistan; it is the leadership. In countries like ours, that have been unable to establish a durable emocracy, there is always the risk of the whole country going to the dogs because of 10-15 corrupt people, despite the population being honest and hardworking. People are dying of hunger while the elite lives a lavish lifestyle; the common man of Pakistan(and I mean the common man, not the clifton/defence people) - the same people who sacrificed most for this country - has been facing persecution since the very beginning. Yet, these people are extremely patriotic, and still willing to sacrifice everything for their country. That is why I am still hopeful. We have the basics(a patriotic population); we need a system, a change. Who better to bring this change then a well-educated and well-travelled expat?
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If you really want to help Pakistan, be ready to address some significant and difficult issues. Political system, corruption, poverty and illiteracy. And no overnight cures. Most importantly, the whole country needs a honest assessment of state vs religion.
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Not really, Pakistan, before this problem emerged had one of the worlds best irrigation systems, and going by your definition, every problem is man made. Agriculture is a thing of the past, now its time to utilize the brain power of the country, which is emerging. India has banked huge reserves on that. These 5 rivers you mention, do you even know how many are not even rivers anymore? The reamining ones will be done for once the neighbouring country stops abiding by treaty stipulations. Learning from others is a good thing, if you recall back in the 50s, Malaysians came to study Pakistan’s booming economic success and look at their position now. But things are certainly changing, and Pakistan’s economic position will become stronger and stronger, inshallah.