Workaholic women?

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^Just because a woman chooses to work doesn't mean she's trying to be like a man..

Don't see why there's the need to judge women who work **OR **stay at home..

If her husband + family are doing fine with the situation (and hard as it might be for some ppl to believe it CAN be possible to balance the two) it's no-one else's business imo..

(Islam has given women the right to work anyway if the family isn't neglected and hubby is ok with it and so on.. the 'religious' argument is really more a cultural one)..

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I thnk I get what you're saying and I have to agree with it--to some extent..It is perfectly OK if u think you cannot do justice to more than one thing at a time (running a home OR having a successful career) and decide to choose one... But I don't think it's fair to put down a woman who loves to work as trying to be equivalent to a man. (not saying you were putting anyone down, but unfo that attitude is still all too common that a working woman is trying to be manly).

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Wanting to work doesn't mean you want to be the equivalent of a man. Running a home is a really challenging task, but it's also something not every woman will be upto. Men are never judged for their lack of skills in running a successful household but women always are regardless of whether they work or not. Everyone has their individual strengths and I think it should be ok if a woman feels her strength is in working and not neccessarily in running a home perfectly. Thats where the partnership in marriage comes in and you have to rely on both people to put in their share of the work. I think its great that you got the option to do both things and make a choice but a lot of women would be judged for making a different choice and thats where it becomes unfair.

I work because I love what I do, I'm good at it and because I think I bring value to my employers. I simply can't stand cooking, cleaning, taking care of a house etc. But I am always in awe of the women who are able to do so and do it so well. I've seen a lot of women take pride in the way they run their house from the way they decorate, to their cooking, to the discipline they raise their kids with, etc. I don't think anyone devalues what a difficult task running a household is and the contribution women make. Even if I wasn't working I don't think I would be up to the challenge on my own.

I just think people should play to their strengths regardless of gender and those strengths are not going to be the same for everyone.

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And he’s back. Welcome :flower1:

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Now this is just for reference for the trigger-happy perpetually pissed off women posting in this thread.

No this is **NOT **about woman only ‘working’; to support her kids, to run the household when her husband dies, otherwise is compelled to work, or works for self fulfillment with an iota of work life balance.

This was about workaholics: since you lot seem to lose your straight thinking capacity when it comes to gender dynamics this is the definition of the word below, kindly read it again and respond again with these definitions in mind.

Thank you.

work·a·hol·ic

[wurk-uh-haw-lik, -hol-ik]
nouna person who works compulsively at the expense of other pursuits.


work·a·hol·ic

noun \ˌwər-kə-ˈhȯ-lik, -ˈhä-\

Definition of WORKAHOLIC

: a compulsive worker


work·a·hol·ic *n.*One who has a compulsive and unrelenting need to work.


workaholic ˌwɜːkəˈhɒlɪk]n(Psychology)a. a person obsessively addicted to work
b. (as modifier) workaholic behaviour


Definition of workaholic
noun

**informal

  • a person who compulsively works excessively hard and long hours.

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where are such guys ?

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Those men are morons because "career" women, who I'm assuming are workaholics and not women with a reasonable work/life balance, are much more likely to end up divorced. The numbers don't lie.

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What I have observed is that working womens' husbands are usually unhappy. I am sorry to say this but a woman should only go out if its very much needed otherwise their rightful place is home.

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Totally agree with you.

Back to the topic:

The workaholic women I know of...are only that way before they get married. I work A LOT. In fact, two weeks ago, someone told me to go home because it was Sunday and I was at work taking care of some end of day stuff. I didn't even realize it (was really annoyed by that too :(). It happens because you don't have anyone expecting you home or demanding your time. A phase of life.

I don't really know of a single married woman who works so hard that she has compromised her family life. Not a single one. All of the working women went either part time or quit or made some adjustments.

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EXACTLY my thoughts and my reasoning behind having a break from my medical career/hospital job for few years until my kids are school-going and able to study/take care of themselves independantly IA .. hospitals can run perfectly even if I am not there to work but my home and family needs me and I know I cannot do justice with either if I decide to work right now. I absolutely am not in favour of leaving kids with grandparents or nanny/maids unless I need to earn as a breadwinner and work. I have people in family who have this ‘passion’ of working/doing their PhD’s and what not and have neglected kids and house back home :bummer: and still are considered ‘himmat wali’ for working when they dont need to and cannot keep a balance.

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By chance, just read an article "True Value of Women" written by Yasmin Mogahed.

I am sharing few interesting points she made related to the topic of this thread:

Fifty years ago, society told us that men were superior because they left the home to work in factories. We were mothers. And yet, we were told that it was women's liberation to abandon the raising of another human being in order to work on a machine. We accepted that working in a factory was superior to raising the foundation of society - just because a man did it.

Then after working, we were expected to be superhuman - the perfect mother, the perfect wife, the perfect homemaker - and have the perfect career. And while there is nothing wrong, by definition, with a woman having a career, we soon came to realize what we had sacrificed by blindly mimicking men. We watched as our children became strangers and soon recognized the privilege we'd given up.

And so only now - given the choice - women in the West are choosing to stay home to raise their children. According to the United States of America Department of Agriculture, only 31 percent of mothers with babies, and 18 percent of mothers with two or more children, are working full-time. And of those working mothers, a survey conducted by Parenting Magazine in 2000, found that 93% of them say they would rather be home with their kids, but are compelled to work due to 'financial obligations' . These 'obligations' are imposed on women by the gender sameness of the modern West, and removed from women by the gender distinctiveness of Islam.

It took women in the West almost a century of experimentation to realize a privilege given to Muslim women 1400 years ago.

Given my privilege as a woman, I only degrade myself by trying to be something I'm not - and in all honesty - don' t want to be: a man. As women, we will never reach true liberation until we stop trying to mimic men, and value the beauty in our own God-given distinctiveness.

If given a choice between stoic justice and compassion, I choose compassion. And if given a choice between worldly leadership and heaven at my feet - I choose heaven.

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These definitions in essence are not incorrect, however, there is a more humanized explanation of all of it. Then again, if anyone has made up the mind to not like such people, mere clarification of the definition won’t really change the opinion, would it?

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Please share with us the correct definition. I got these from dictionaries.

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I didn't say they are incorrect. Anyways, do you have any workaholic friend? And can you share your personal experience in the light of these definitions please?

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with good education, comes 30 K + debt (unless ur super smart or have rich folks).... well if u husbands insist on paying off debt all by urself, by all means ur welcome to do so!!
cant justify not working FT after shadi when juggling between school and work/home atm..
doesnt take a rocket scientist to run a household really.

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My personal experience says otherwise. Have tons of friends in med school and law school which have grueling hours and then go on to have crazy hours in residencies and firm jobs and their husbands have stood by them.

I guess the divorce aspect comes in when they are NOT on the same page.

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I agree with a lot of posters. Even with post graduate education and an amazing job, I put it on the back burner to raise my kids. I know myself and when working, I would give 110% for it by nature would become a workaholic. It would have been inevitable. Wether the woman or man is a workaholic it can dismantle the marriage very quickly.

I have a relative who is married to their job and knows they cannot do justice to a real marriage and has opted out of marriage, just because their work is fulfilling enough for now.
Initially I thought they were being selfish, but now I realize they were smart. Why drag some other person into this dynamic. With workaholics thier work is top priority, other things just fall to side.

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Don’t agree to anything said above .:naraz:

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What numbers? Personally I haven't seen any reliable studies done which suggests that "career" women are more likely to get divorced compared to women who're stay-at-home wives/mom's OR work part-time.

Would you mind posting the info. for these numbers? I would love to see these facts and learn more details.

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Another dimension:

Women can be stay-at-home wife/mom and be still workaholic, nahi?

just saying…

:chai: