I would like to ask specially from female readers here, what is their thought on this and should women be allowed to go for jehad . The link shoes the first palestinian women of an Islamic organisation to carry out suicide bombing against the yahud butchers. Dareen Abu Aishah a young unmarried women was the member of Izzedine Al Qassam brigade of the Islamic Hamas organization.
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Originally posted by NYAhmadi: You both should send your mamas to Palestine so they can blow up some innocent Israeli children eating pizza.
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NYAhmadi, don't you ever get embarassed of giving smart-a** comments one after another??
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Indian Muslim, Why should I? This was a legitimate question and Reza had the balls to answer it legitimately (and I respect his views but I don’t necessarily have to agree with it, as I would never send my Mama on a suicide mission - although she exhibits some tendencies). If you want to send yours, be my guest.
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Originally posted by NYAhmadi: Indian Muslim, Why should I? This was a legitimate question and Reza had the balls to answer it legitimately (and I respect his views but I don’t necessarily have to agree with it, as I would never send my Mama on a suicide mission - although she exhibits some tendencies). If you want to send yours, be my guest.
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Ahmadi plz keep this post clean. We know who has the balls to go on a mission and who doesn't. talk bout balls in corner room!
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Originally posted by NYAhmadi: You both should send your mamas to Palestine so they can blow up some innocent Israeli children eating pizza.
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mr ahmadi
well mr do you realise that palestine is under occupation?
do you realise that people have become refugees in thier own land?
muslims who go on sucide missions make the supreme sacrifice of thier lives for the love of thier faith and thier brethren not because of the waiting hooris as some pervert christians suggests.
the mujahideen who go on a sucide mission makes the supreme sacrifice
and you must realise that those people eating pizzas are eating pizzas on the land of muslims. the jews are also killing innocent palestinian chilren 10 year old 12 year old boys shot dead by jewish soldiers in uniform who get paid to kill by thier govt
are the mujahideen getting salary for blowing themselves up?
and before i conclude i would like to ask you if you are a muslim? or a non muslim?
a muslim feels the pain of his brothers who are being slaughtered by jews with high tech weaponary apache helicopters? machine guns and tanks .
if these brave boys would not have been there palestine would have just been in historical maps and there would only israel
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and as far as women mujahideed are concerned here in india no muslim woman has ever taken part in any situation (iam not talking about kashmir)\
but yes hindu women were actively taking part in the looting that took place in gujrat
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Originally posted by NYAhmadi: You both should send your mamas to Palestine so they can blow up some innocent Israeli children eating pizza.
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mr ahmadi
well mr do you realise that palestine is under occupation?
do you realise that people have become refugees in thier own land?
muslims who go on sucide missions make the supreme sacrifice of thier lives for the love of thier faith and thier brethren not because of the waiting hooris as some pervert christians suggests.
the mujahideen who go on a sucide mission makes the supreme sacrifice
and you must realise that those people eating pizzas are eating pizzas on the land of muslims. the jews are also killing innocent palestinian chilren 10 year old 12 year old boys shot dead by jewish soldiers in uniform who get paid to kill by thier govt
are the mujahideen getting salary for blowing themselves up?
and before i conclude i would like to ask you if you are a muslim? or a non muslim?
a muslim feels the pain of his brothers who are being slaughtered by jews with high tech weaponary apache helicopters? machine guns and tanks .
if these brave boys would not have been there palestine would have just been in historical maps and there would only israel
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Kabir brother,
There are people who no matter what happens would never say anything bad to Jews/hindus/kafirs. Even if na'uzibillah Holy Macca is attacked. So there is no point tellin these people anything good!
war is evil and women should not go for it.
islam hasnt asked women for jihad so i will never go for anything like this. And don't agree what female suicide bomber has done, they have set bad examples.
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Originally posted by NYAhmadi: You both should send your mamas to Palestine so they can blow up some innocent Israeli children eating pizza.
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u should send ur so called mirzaz (whose leader died his own Shi***) to help kill phalestianianz with isreal forces!!!
u ppl r no different than any other kufarz!
infact, top islamic scholars from more than 130 countries have declared ur faith corrupt and not islam so therefore not muslim so plz go P**s off !!
First off, suicide bombers cannot be considered mujahideen. Whether male or female. The whole point of the matter is that you are defending your faith and you go out to battle or whatever under the guidlines of Jihad -e-something (war type Jihad) and you are not going in saying "I am going to blow myself up and take others with me", you are going in saying "well, i'm going to fight, and maybe i'll come out alive, maybe I wont". Suicide is haraam and it is a sin that you cannot ever enter into heaven with. I do not know about the background of this particular female, but I do know that the men who have attempted suicide bombings and failed and are now in jail, all of them were not very religious at all before they undertook the missions of suicide bombing. There is a pattern here. These men are of low-class economically, they are tired of the fighting, they are uneducated, unIslamic or at least disconnected with their faith in God or nonpracticing muslims. All of these factors allow them to be easily swayed by political forces such as Hammas and their ignorance of Islam makes them even more vulnerable. These terrorist groups have a political agenda - "get the Israelites off the land and give the land back to us". Now, either side is not willing to compromise. Jurusalem is a piece of land, not a piece of heaven that the two sides are fighting thus over it. Now granted, the crimes ag/Palestinians are great. But the crimes ag/Israelites are no better. Furthermore, killing women and children is the first thing you are told NOT to do in Jihaad. Yet, in the suicide bombings you have precisely those groups of people dying or being wounded and disabled. So the problem goes both ways. Thus, a woman such as this khawateen who decided to participate in such mindless acts is in the wrong, not becuz of her gender but due to the act itself. However, if Jihaad is being fought properly (which I can guarantee you , it never will unless if the Muslim population gets educated), then I am not really sure what the Quran says about the role of women in warefare. However, I do know that it was Aisha or Fatima or some woman who led a battle. Hey, if she did it, I'm sure there is room for women as far as planning standing behind the battle scene is concerned. Actually going out in fighting, well, i would not recommend it, becuase warfare becomes a stressful environment and we all know what women and men can resort to in stressful environments. I can tell you that my teacher was in the Gulf War, where women did go and fight (American side). He qouted a statistic that I honestly do not remember but it was over 50% of the women that went to fight in the battle that turned out to be prostituting or were raped during the war. These were women who openly admitted to what had happened during the war. God knows how many women there are that are keeping mum about it. And the arab men weren't responsible, it was our own american soldiers. Thus, I dont think the idea of women fighting in Jihaad is feasible, but I think that women can be involved in strategizing and war preparation and motivation and mobilization.
Well first of all are u a Islamic scholor. What knowledge do u have about Jehed. If u know there are well known Islamic scholors who have said that Going on a suicide mission with the intent of killing the enemy of Islam and any muslim land, is not suicide but an act in which u get shahadat with killing the enemy.
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