why we sunni in Pakistan DONT allow our women to come to mosque, Bohri, Aga Khani, Shia, allow them. Women also goes to Mazhar of various saint all over Pakistan. Can any one comment or educate me on the subject.
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are you asking why people in pakistan let women go to the mosque? or why people dont let them go to the mosque?
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I think it was a typo. I may be wrong however. The question probably was why sunni do not allow....and others do.
If thats the case then no particular reason. Some so called aalim and many jaahils made up some loose rules. Not very strict though. There are so many Masjids of Sunni which have places for women. Even higher than men on second story.
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You mean Sunni women in USA?
We (us women) never went to masjid for prayers, but in USA women go - so we go too.
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matter of fact is there is no any restriction woman to go to mosque or shrine i think in pakistan it is more or less local tradition not to go to religious places.
Islam gives full right towoman to go to kaaba and perform their prayers as men do.
if there is other practice then is not islamic
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Now mazar or Pir baba place I am not sure about. Its such a corrupt place but I know so many women go there. Many Mawali roam around those places.
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Women are not forbidden to attend the mosque in Islam. Women may be forbidden to attend the mosque in Pakistan...but that is a different issue and Pakistan does not represent the true teachings of Islam
Visiting the "mazhar" of "saints" is also a different issue.....
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There could also be the reason that mosques in pakistan do not have seperate place for ladies and also the mosques are in very tight places where intermixing between the genders is highly possible. It is pretty different situation in Pakistan. If people can hoot at you and whistle at you when you are walking in a bazaar etc what is stopping them from doing it when you are walking towards the mosque? Shareef gharane ke auratain and aurtain in general ghar mai hi namaz parhleti hain and women are not farz to go to mosque for daily prayers etc. I have personally experienced something tragic so i am coming forward. Here in Dubai it is different and many times i have prayed namaz in the AR mosque.
Was just thinking about this today... why not make an all female mosque for women then i Pk if they can't make woman's section or the men are so bad they'll even hoot and holler if they see women in a mosque.
I am in UAE right now and its awesome how every place has a mosque and every mosque has a woman's section! Even though people may say Dubai is liberal has all this alcohol and half dressed tourists I am so impressed by the availability of places for people (including women) to pray at all times and in all places!
There could also be the reason that mosques in pakistan do not have seperate place for ladies and also the mosques are in very tight places where intermixing between the genders is highly possible. It is pretty different situation in Pakistan. If people can hoot at you and whistle at you when you are walking in a bazaar etc what is stopping them from doing it when you are walking towards the mosque? Shareef gharane ke auratain and aurtain in general ghar mai hi namaz parhleti hain and women are not farz to go to mosque for daily prayers etc. I have personally experienced something tragic so i am coming forward. Here in Dubai it is different and many times i have prayed namaz in the AR mosque.
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A mosque does not need a male or women's section, it just needs enough room for everyone to be there. Women can sit across from men or behind them. Here in the USA I've only seen on mosque where it was preferable that only men attended. Women should be encouraged to attend the mosque wherever they are. I used to attend the masjid in my city several times a week for classes and discussions. If I were denied that option I'd be sorely disappointed, and I'd complain and protest til it were changed :D
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There are many hadiths that are quoted by scholars which I am not in a position to mention the exact sources. I would mention them here, if any brother knows please do put the references.
In Islam it is not disallowed for women to pray in masjids, but considering the duties of women related to house hold activities (bringing up children,..etc.) Islam gives an incentive to women that if they wish they may pray at home and they would get the sawaab of praying in masjid. For men such privilege does not exist. A man's namaz in masjid is 25 (or 26) times greater in reward then his namaz at home, no matter how many excuses he makes.
Even according to a hadith, the sawaab for women to pray at home is higher than praying in masjid.
p.s. Ah..MAN! women are lucky. I have to go to masjid in the cold morning of winters, trembling and making my way in the snow climbing the steep road (at times sliping and falling), afraid of the early morning group of dogs (that once attacked me) but my wife gets equal sawab by only praying besides her bed in front of the heater.
Well, if there is no male and female section than some men would be pleased to take the initiative of getting the sawab by quoting a hadith that the namazis should stand shoulder to shoulder in a row, while they also select the person with whom their heart is willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with. As their would be an excuse for some men, they might even like to change their positions to avoid standing "shoulder to shoulder" with an 89 years old woman.
As it is said that a momin offers namaz as if he is considering Allah (swt) infront of him. Honestly, how many of us (men) have such a great Imaan that we are standing shoulder to shoulder with women and still concentrating in front of us and not on our left and right hand side.
I apologize for underestimating those people who think their Imaan is strong enough to offer namaz with full concentration even if they are standing shoulder to shoulder with a member of opposite gender.