Women and children made tremendous progress in Pakistan. We maintained our top position in the global sweepstakes for highest maternal deaths and sadly the credit for this cannot be given to the PCB chief who had nothing to do with it. Not resting on our laurels, we improved on our 'honour' killing performance by killing more women than ever before. Husbands, fathers, brothers, uncles and servants complied with orders and maimed, slaughtered, shot, strangled, chopped, burnt and raped over 500 women left, right and centre. Honour was vindicated each time and many congratulations to all the hard working males who brought the nation this unique honour. The nation will salute you if we can find a spare soldier anywhere -- they are all busy doing civilian duties. In 2001, we hope to continue the good work and improve this figure. I wish the economy could take a lesson from this. 80% of women between 18-24 were unaware of the terms of their Nikahnamas, which just shows that education has made sweeping progress here. They were blissfully unaware of their rights -- most couldn't tell whether 'rites' applied to them or 'rights' till they were informed that the former was the correct application at which the women rejoiced greatly and danced happily till they were arrested for dancing, also known as obscenity here. Incidentally, stove-killings as a science perfected by in-laws gained support and was popularly being adopted across various socio-economic classes.
queer - i was responding to your statement that the website was a fake.
why don't you give us some proof to backup that claim. and i don't like to type crap just to make my point and I don't bring in material that obviously doesn't belong in this post (HINT TO RVIKZ).
Do you believe in quran? Do you believe in its authencity and truthfullness?
Now, you might think, what does me(you) believing in quran have to do with me(watcher) swearing on it? Well, there is very big connection, lets see if you can answer those questions correctly and honestly and we shall proceed from there.
Its sad to see how people can just judge others on basis of fear of someone else. Well, thats narrowmindedness in action and queer my friend is showing it all.
lots of things - similar writing styles, similar "religious" views, similar arguments, similar posts regarding desi guys and girls, similar spelling and grammar, similar nick (watcher , chokidaar). and ever since i have called him jaawan, he so very purposely spells it "javaan". kinda too defensive. do me a favor Farwai, ask him to clear it up by swearing on the Quran. there shouldn't be any trouble with that surely?
nomaan,
proof is that the site gives not a single contact address - just email addresses. could you get me the addresses of the presses and universities cited on the site? then we'll talk. good luck!
Dear Watcher aka Jaawan,
Do you believe in quran? Do you believe in its authencity and truthfullness?<
no, i dont.
now take it easy and swear on your conviction of the oneness of Allah, the authenticity of the nabi and the Quran, that you are not related to the person who had the nick "Jaawan".
sure, you can chicken out by digging out some poppycock arguments about swearing to unbelievers - why dont you just swear to all the muslims on this thread?
now you take it easy.
[This message has been edited by queer (edited February 26, 2001).]
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Originally posted by aishaA:
** Queer, that is a low blow. Not all of us know English as well as you.
**
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Aisha,
I think you are giving queer too much credit.Most of Xtremes error are typo .Ability to type like secretary isnt same as knowing good english.
From my exprience of others ,no one understands what he talks about ,which sane person would like to be associasted with Dung & insects !!!!tell me .i could never undertand .I must there are other strange ppl. too
Queer-No offence ,i dont thnk your english is that good .& if you are going to call Dalistan site fake then so are 'sword of truth,hindu net ,hindu org. & many trash like rss site .I agree it is a bitter criticism ,but islam faces charge of polygamy .incest ,jehad,talaq all the time with no relation to reality too.
"jo kHat main kahte they apni jaan mujhko
aaj kHat likhne main unki jaan jaati hai .....
lots of things - similar writing styles, similar "religious" views, similar arguments, similar posts regarding desi guys and girls, similar spelling and grammar, similar nick (watcher , chokidaar). and ever since i have called him jaawan, he so very purposely spells it "javaan". kinda too defensive. do me a favor Farwai, ask him to clear it up by swearing on the Quran. there shouldn't be any trouble with that surely?
nomaan,
proof is that the site gives not a single contact address - just email addresses. could you get me the addresses of the presses and universities cited on the site? then we'll talk. good luck!
Dear Watcher aka Jaawan,
Do you believe in quran? Do you believe in its authencity and truthfullness?<
no, i dont.
now take it easy and swear on your conviction of the oneness of Allah, the authenticity of the nabi and the Quran, that you are not related to the person who had the nick "Jaawan".
sure, you can chicken out by digging out some poppycock arguments about swearing to unbelievers - why dont you just swear to all the muslims on this thread?
now you take it easy.
[This message has been edited by queer (edited February 26, 2001).]**
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Queer,
Do you subscribe to the privacy issue or you think whole world needs to know unnecessarry detail about everyone whether they want or not ,It is individuals listening or reading also has right to limit there knowledge of some one things that doesnt matter to him.Why do you have to be a uncalled for private eye like FBI 's hoover having file on Martin Luther kings informations that no black wanted to know.Not that it made any differnce but that is also blow below the belt & you should not derive pleasure from it just as you advice xtreme not to personally mention Rani .Plz practice parity in eqivalent decency & not hypocricy in your favour,.We want to know only what we want to know ,there no need to divulge any theory you might have formed .Its NOT important javan or jawaan or xtreme ,we dont know anyone anywayze .its faceless i.d
"jo kHat main kahte they apni jaan mujhko
aaj kHat likhne main unki jaan jaati hai .....
interesting way you got of saying you lose. next time, stick to stuff you know. maybe you wont look like such a sore loser.
FYI,
if you are going to call Dalistan site fake then so are 'sword of truth,hindu net ,hindu org. & many trash like rss site <
they sure are. so what about it?
regarding the privacy issue, i have no complaints againts multi-nicks as long as the person doesnt use them to play goody-goody with one, and bad-ass with the other.
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Originally posted by queer: why dont you just swear to all the muslims on this thread?
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Why does he need to swear to all the muslims when nobody asked him about that. YOU are the one who asked and you don't believe on any of those things that you asked him to swear on, so even if he swears, how are you gonna believe him?
interesting way you got of saying you lose. next time, stick to stuff you know. maybe you wont look like such a sore loser.
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if you actually read my post, you'd know it was a reply to ZZ's post (which is directly above mine).
i'm not here to win or lose arguments. i saw a book written by a hindu woman on hinduism and its treatement of women. which appeared to be well referened. i posted it. doesn't matter which website its on. if the reference are right, then nothing else matters..
i suggest that you look at that and not the validity of the dalistan website..
fact remains, the author has made serious accusations at the hindu religion and its treatement of women.. so i suggest that you or your friends get busy and find something which is also referenced to counter the claims.
If any of you know Javaan or jawaan please let him know what is going on. Let him come online, and I am here too, and we shall eliminate any confusion that my friend queer has about me being someone else.
Queer, want my address? Come to Savannah, Georgia, its near Southern south Carolina border.
Farwa, do you know jawaan? If you do, please tell him about this.
PS: Queer, I will swear on quran, if that is what will satisfy you, confused and paranoid fellow you are.
Hey ****QUEER(begger)...here i am you were missing me pal? le aah gehya
main? aah jaa chat par or de jah mujey apni behanaa!
watcher...dont mind this and other idiots....tehy are parey likhey jahils
and will always fear me... im always in their minds... and funny thing is i
never did anything which wold lead these morons to keep me in their stupid
ass minds...saley harami!
hey ****eer(queer) hope you are satisfied now... me going.
the site is a propaganda one. the book is a fake, there is no sita aggarwal, and no shudrastan press that published her book. its all bogus. btw, what do you think of the book "Lajja"? similar sentiments there, dont you think?
Watcher aka Jaawan,
spare us the pathetic dramatics. One simple line would do - "Upon my honor as a muslim, and my belief in the oneness of Allah, and the authenticity of the Prophet and the Quran, i swear that the person who posts as 'The Watcher' is not related to the person who used to post as 'Jaawan'".
“Upon my honor as a muslim, and my belief in the oneness of Allah, and the authenticity of the Prophet and the Quran, i swear that the person who posts as ‘The Watcher’ is not related to the person who used to post as ‘Jaawan’”.
Clear enough?
Admin/Mod could you tell him that we are not same person. Please.
V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**
----*High Priest-OF-Painful Truth*----
**And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when you know (what it is).
**Quran,Al-Baqara, 42.
[This message has been edited by The Watcher (edited March 01, 2001).]
Apology accepted. Next time be careful in judging and making assumptions about others. There are people who may have same opinion about certain issues, that doesn’t mean they are same person.