Women in Hijjab in Pakistan

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bhai jaan.. they do not even say salam to each other .. they say “Ya Ali” when greeting each other… How do I know.. I worked in a company for two years owned by Agha Khanies… I know them through and through… what goes around in the Jamaat Khana as well. :layd:

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Can you explain how we r suppose to read namaaz according to just the Quran?

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What’s up wth the whole Ya Ali thing? What does it mean and why do they say it?

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They think that Ali :razi: is everything. Agha Khan according them is the Noor of Ali and that every Agha Khan will have a son for sure who will become Noor of Ali

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Thank you, I have much admired communism and wrote a lengthy paper about two years ago at university. Of course how it was practiced is not the ideal but Karl Marx was spot on. Many do not realize support networks such as day care, health care, social welfare stem from communist ideologies.

And presently, while studying religious history I am ever convinced religion is the opium of the masses and not necessarily a beneficial drug for the populace as per historical study. And I very, very, very, much support secular society, integration and assimilation. HUMAN RIGHTS OVER RELIGIOUS DOGMA ON OTHERS. I know many people after 10 years living in west still know very little in english to the point they can not help children understand their school studies. Both of my parents are immigrants and both strived very had to learn the language and to integrate themselves into the west and today they are prosperous, open minded and tolerant. They have diverse friends, english, italian, polish , greek, jewish, taoists, buddists , christian and muslim ETC ETC ETC.

And even my sister last year married an orthodox greek. Some went mental crazy about that but not my parents and my sister and brother in law will educate the children on both religions and will also take them to the Jewish Temple ( where some friends go) and church. At the end of the day my parents say its the same GOD , even for those who practice spiritual faiths/beliefs my dad says its all about guidance in being a good person. No one has ever lived on earth who was PERFECT, NO ONE .

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Isn't that shirk?

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Without an iota of doubt in my mind, I hereby bear witness that Muhammad Bin Abdullah :saw: was THE PERFECT MAN on the face of earth. Yet the non-believers will disagree.

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you do not believe in religion , i do so to me prophets were perfect.
religious dogma are old interpretations of holy Quran, but a openminded reading , and above all an educated and open minded attitude within religion is not a threat to human rights.
culture has been polluting islam for so long, we have problem to extract it religion, and to the eyes of the disbelievers religion is forever stained by backward traditions:(

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I have met the Agha Khan twice in my life, and I know my parents donated to his causes and charitable good works. He has done more for the muslim world and no one has done as m done as much as the AGA KHAN to help the muslim ummah.

You have many questions , perhaps if you are so curious you may buy books and read about the Agha Khan and what it is to be an Ismaili.

But since you are planted in front of your computer here is a wonder ful link AKDN.org . When earthquake hit pakistan he donated more than USA.

He leadership is to guide us, if ALLAH wanted to control us he would not have given us free will.

The concept of praying to us in a certain way is not important as much as the meaning of the prayer. And just one last thought, there is no concept of heaven or hell for us , just like in the Jewish faith. Life on earth can be HELL or life on earth can be HEAVEN.

Now go get enlightened there are many books and a website I gave to you.

As for questioning Agha Khan and his deeds also question Wahabi King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia I mean he is famous for drinking alcohol, gambling, womanizing .

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parochial responses always dumbdown concepts of secularism and human rights. SORRLY LACKING IN ISLAMIST STATES , no wonder we make fun of the cave thinkers

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Was he a man, was he a mortal and carried sword? SHOCK AND AWE, TRUTH BE EVEN HE HAD IMPERFECTIONS . iT’S not a case of being a non believer its a case of not being BLINDED BY MYTH AND LEGEND

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That's not the answer to my question.. you are comparing apple with oranges.. so far you have dodged two questions... King Abdullah is not the role model of Islam but For you Agha Khan is... don't dodge teh question if you dun know it.

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Imperfection is not there but it’s in your imaan. Prophet:saw: was the perfect man. My faith does not complete without without that iman. may be your does but again what do you have to do with him You do not even believe in him:saw:

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I am not dodging, you are being lazy. How will you be enlightened if you don't go on the path of reading for yourself. OR are you afraid you will become an ISMAILI .

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I will go for reading... my questions were based on my reading and on my observation... I wanted to know whether you know it or not.. seems like you even do not know your own faith let alone your badmouthing about the very tenents of Islam and the most highly figure of Islam...

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Perhaps being concerned too concerned how obedient I am or what kind of muslim I am you should be more concerned that your youth is not hijacked in the name of Allah and Muhammad in becoming a murderous extremist fundamentalist.

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I am not badmouthing but I question thinking. Just like Christians questioned their teachings and I am sure every good faith stays good as long as people question and spend time studying history, philosophy, math, art, sport, music, drama, etc. And yes perhaps my parents did not do a good job of indoctrinating me with DOGMA , as I admit dogma exists in the Ismail ummah.

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If you don't question the misdeeds and the hate that spreads in ones religion how can you learn to appreciate your relegion and be better than the one who does the preaching/teaching etc. Many know Quran verbatim, and study hadiths and sunnahs but are they truly better muslims than you, I or someone else?

This is not only an Islamic issue but for all faiths.

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No prophet in Islam is better than the other, so it's safe to conclude that all the prophets are nearest to perfect as humanly possible. And carrying a sword to fight all that threaten him and his followers makes him better than people who just accept oppression.

R u shia?

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Anyone who does anything in the name of Muhammad PBUH is not a muslim.
Can you tell what percentage of muslims or muslim youths r murderous extremist fundamentalist? Dude, stop watching tv, they r so biased, you have no clue.