Women can not live without men?

normally it is said in many cultures that men cannot live without women - as they rely on women’s ability to comfort them in a good way or a bad way.

it depends how each one of them takes the other…what use we have of each other. or how we are thinking aboutor are inclined to think of each other.
within reason, body has rights over ourselves as men and women, so so Allah granted us the legal partnership in the form of a blessed marriage.

but other than that, can u imagine, if one day all women were gone, or allmen were gone, what would be that we would feel as teh opposite gender?
balance of need is so tricky and so real, that there is no denying… except how conducive the merits are for not being able to live without each other.

how come, women, are not considered able to live by themselves, all their through lives like men do? as in living independently - not having to answer to any one about what the men do or not do & whether they are trust worthy or not.

a social problem in patriarchal societies is this that the misconstrued notion of women being > men is automatically applied.

any commments, chime!

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**No "Woman" is an Island, **


like the saying goes for "Man"


Those who are not married still have other family for social comfort. I have seen both Men and Women live alone and do well with occasional social interface. but it takes a special kind of a totally self reliant type personality to be doing that and also be perfectly happy.

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Women r not as tough/strong as men, that is why there is always a worry when a woman goes out alone at night whereas when a man goes it's not as much.

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Dushwari,

do you ever do your homework by yourself or with your class/school mates? Why does every assignment turns into a thread?

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the reason it is brought up is to draw the analysis of a tradition in certain cultures where there is dichotomy,
Mash Allah, many people, including myself, do believe in a good life, that involves a support system and do not believe in complete self-centered life.
however, for the argument's sake, we need to note the fact that there is a double standard that very much devises a situation wherein you have an unhappy family, or a single, lonesome person, male or female, happy as such.or vice a versa.
granted that their independent situations are but their own personal matters, but do we ever pause to think, as to why do still people probe into their lives? why help and understanding is never offered when and where it is truly needed and nosy interferences are imposed, when they are not at all required or asked for.
why do people have double standards?
we are social beings, so ideally, we must have families. it takes a really strong person to be alone and self sufficient.
but, if someone chooses to be alone, why would the rest of the world makes the independence sound like or feel like some curse? what i am attempting to share is this idea, that perhaps, the society which we are a part of, should be open to every body’s autonomous living as long as s/he is not walking over other people’s right to dignified living, prosperity & success as a means to the aim of collective strength of the whole society, rather than sinking low to only a selfish level of exploiting each other.

dushwari

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i think it all depends on each person individually, i mean their personality and strength, if a woman is strong ( i dont mean phisically) then she shouldnt have any probs living on her own, my sis has been living on her own for about 5 years now and miles away from the family and shes never had any problems.

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Ironically enough, its the cultures where women are considered to be the weaker gender that women are most unsafe! For instance in Pakistan, i would never recommned that a women travel by herself, and go out alone at night! In the US women do it all the time, and i would infact encourage women to travel even if by themselves.

Perhaps its b/c we make women out to be the weaker gender that makes it easier for other people to want to take advantage of them.

I think a woman who is portraed to be stronger is less likely to be abused then one who is portrayed to weak and meek! its true of anyone though...even a guy who looks meek and weak is more likely to be beaten up then a man who is powerful due to money or might whichever.

I wonder if perhaps we do the women in our society a diservice by portraying them as weak? i wonder if that is the reason why Pakistan has such a high wife abuse rate and otherwise women are more vulnerable there then lets say the US?

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women are not weak just cuz men and the culture make em weak! they r actually stronger than men.

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even men cannot live without women . its both ways . the difference is how you see it

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thats what they say before they get married

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thanks unbelieveable rebel, odetta, and lahorekacheeta,
u are absolutely correct.
my personal opinion - all women can live without all men, if all men are always going to be accentric.

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^^^ well i tend to differ not ALL women can live without men.
same goes for men, no ALL men can live without women.

Some men and some women can live without opposite gender in life!

Only few men and few women can without any partner(male or female)!!

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Ancient times were the times of physical strength and power. At that time it could’ve been said that men are physically superior to women. But this is not true about modern era. Now we are civilized people governed by laws. The importance of physical strength has reduced significantly. Now the intelligence rules. And mental capabilities of men and women are the same. Therefore whoever puts up more effort and hard work for improving his/her intelligence will take precedence.

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woman n man r naturally made for each other n denying that is denying nature.

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Alhamdulilah i can go years without meeting anyone! i would only miss my parents (may ALLAH swt bless them in this life and in the afterlife, Ameen)...

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there are always more men looking for women then women looking for men whereever you look...whether its some dating site on the internet or your local bar or dance club.Women can live without men easily.The only thing women want men for is money.

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topic was, Women can not live without men?

i agree with many who posted here that yes, most women can comfortably live without men.
unfortunately, they are trained to think, that men might be better able to provide for them. & so they never make an effort to work for themselves.
on the contrary, some men may be able to live without women, but that is a far-fetch idea eventually - sadly - as the social set-up & biased, unfair bad thinking and accepted norms in the society MAKES most men to adopt a companion for whatever reasons. examples of men marrying women half their ages, illustrates such a point. i don't have to go explain for what reasons. one is that a younger person is thought to be molded easily.
certainly such relationships are not form on the basis of mutual respect and sensitivity towards a balanced, logical idea as to who one might want to take on as a spouse - somebody compatible in age, in intellect and in emotionality.
& no, you cannot say that all women are after money.
there are many examples of women being made a channel to provide money as well as home and kids and fulfill all responsibilities, and their good for nothing spouse will be still idle, dishonest to them, a bad father and an indecent, cruel, & selfish human being.
good women will get attracted to ONLY honesty in everything done by counterpart good men - emotional, intellectual, spiritual & physical bonding as better-halves, in lawfully wed couples.
it is better to be determined to find a modest and able individual, rather than get bonded with someone who is a constant failure and a source of misery.
natural rule is both are equally wanted by each other. we cannot refute that. but the current times, have modified our senses and roles and instead of being interdependent, we have transformed ourselves into self serving robots. that has to be changed.
& that responsibility lies with both women as well as men. .

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I think the natural process is male and female cannot live alone.Life circle demands them to live tgether, anything going against nature is abnormal.Women or men can live alone if they didn't get any life partner otherwise i think they should complete the life circle by marrying and having kids.Again in my opinion anything against nature is abnormal.

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:hehe:

What kind of question is this? Its personal preference, is what it boils down to. And luck. And personal choices and actions. Its so individual. I don’t think you can make a blanket statement on this, but in general, most humans DO like to have some sort of social sense of belonging. Whether they get that from mommy and dadddy or siblings or friends or kids or spouse or some combination is totally individual.

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Actually, intellectually they stay kids and like kids want the attention of men. They are abhorrently shallow.

PCG, do you agree?