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Woman taking her husband’s surname after marriage

Praise be to Allaah.

It seems that what is meant in the question is a woman changing her family name to that of her husband after she gets married. This is haraam and is not allowed in sharee’ah, because it is not permissible for anyone to claim to belong to anyone other than his or her father. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Call them (adopted sons) by (the names of) their fathers, that is more just with Allaah…” [al-Ahzaab 33:5]. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has cursed the one who claims to belong to someone other than his father.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad and others). And Allaah knows best. 


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It is haraam for a wife to take her husband’s name

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

It is not permitted for anyone to claim to belong to anyone other than his father. Imitating the kuffaar by dropping the wife’s surname and giving her the husband’s name is haraam; it is also a form of falsehood, and humiliation of the woman. Anyone who has done this must repent to Allaah and put it right by going back to her father’s name.

With regard to a child born out of wedlock, he should be given his mother’s name and cannot be given the name of the adulterer. (For more information, see Question #1942 and 284). 


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Why a woman should not take her husband’s surname

Praise be to Allaah.

The effects of imitating the west in naming ourselves are many. One of them is the way in which people have got used to omitting the word ‘ibn’ (son of) or ‘ibnatu’ (daughter of) between their own names and the name of their fathers. The reason for this is, firstly, because some families have adopted children and given them their surname, so that the adopted child is called Foolaan Foolan [where ‘Foolaan (=So and so)’ stands for a name] and their real children are called Foolaan ibn Foolaan (So and so the son of So and so). Now in the fourteenth century AH, people have dropped the word ‘ibn’ or ‘ibnatu’ – which is unacceptable according to linguistics, custom and sharee’ah. May Allaah help us.

Another effect is the habit of women taking their husband’s surnames.

Originally, the woman is So and so the Daughter of So and so, not So and so the wife of So and so! Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Call them (adopted sons) by (the names of) their fathers, that is more just with Allaah…” [al-Ahzaab 33:5].

As it is in this world, so it will also be in the Hereafter, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“On the Day of Resurrection, each betrayer will have a banner raised beside him, and it will be said, this is the betrayer of So and so the son of So and so.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5709, and Muslim, 3265).

Shaykh Bakr Abu Zayd (may Allaah preserve him) said: This is one of the beauties of sharee’ah, because calling a person by his father’s name is more appropriate for knowing who is who and telling people apart. The father is the protector and maintainer of the child and his mother both inside and outside the home. This is why the father mixes with people in the marketplaces and takes risks by travelling to earn a halaal living and strive for their sakes. So the child is given the name of the father, not of the mother who is hidden away and who is one of those whom Allaah commanded (interpretation of the meaning):

“And stay in your houses…” [al-Ahzaab 33:33]

(Tasmiyat al-Mawlood, 30, 31).

On the basis of the above, there is no blood tie between the husband and wife, so how can she take his surname as if she is part of the same lineage? Moreover, she may get divorced, or her husband may die, and she may marry another man. Will she keep changing her surname every time she marries another man? Furthermore, there are rulings attached to her being named after her father, which have to do with inheritance, spending and who is a mahram, etc. Taking her husband’s surname overlooks all that. The husband is named after his own father, and what does she have to do with the lineage of her husband’s father? This goes against common sense and true facts. The husband has nothing that makes him better than his wife so that she should take his surname, whilst he takes his father’s name.

Hence everyone who has gone against this and taken her husband’s name should put matters right. We ask Allaah to put all the affairs of the Muslims right.


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:jazak:

The surname is supposed to show ones paternal lineage.

The same women who’ll take their husbands surname will get all feminist about other insignificant matters but when it comes to this they’ll quite gladly accept being treated like they’re the mans property only coz it’s against Islam.

All actions depend upon intentions. If the lady changes her name with the intention of deceiving people about her lineage (which is quite absurd since it wud make her her husbands sister) then its haram. Otherwise u may discourage it but declaring it haram is quite a stretch.

as i have said repeatedly on this forum, its absurd to see why a woman must have her husband's name as her surname....
if she marries, and re-marries and re-marries, say 10 times, will she be changing all her legal documents too cuz her name is constantly on a change????

and what if she is divorced????
she keeps her husband's surname or her father's????

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*Originally posted by armughal: *
as i have said repeatedly on this forum, its absurd to see why a woman must have her husband's name as her surname....
if she marries, and re-marries and re-marries, say 10 times, will she be changing all her legal documents too cuz her name is constantly on a change????

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most women marry once...maybe twice..in extreme cases 3 times..and in very rare cases 4 times...Unless you count elizabeth tailor (or whoever the heck that actress is) as all women you wont find many examples of women marrying more than 3-4 times :D

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as i have said repeatedly on this forum, its absurd to see why a woman must have her husband's name as her surname....
if she marries, and re-marries and re-marries, say 10 times, will she be changing all her legal documents too cuz her name is constantly on a change????

and what if she is divorced????
she keeps her husband's surname or her father's????

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we are not discussing its absurdity but its legality in sharia. Jumping in a mud puddle is absurd but its not haram.

i'm sure its some male ego thing in our culture. imagine the saases/husbands reaction after the wife informs them that she intends to keep her original name. they'll think .. what a museebat, what will people think? she must be taiz.

after I got married, my wife was expecting that I submit her papers to process the name change, but i didn't. i think she was initially surprised, but is fine with it now.

i have seen many “islamists” feminists who were so voilent in their opposition to changing the names of women after their marriage and once they got married, they humbly submitted themselves and changed their names. those feminists also had their brothers who were claiming that changing name is haram but once they got married their wives changed the names too.
i dont wanna accuse them of hypocracy but islam is not religion of words and speeches, but of actions. so all those ppl who are arguing not to change names please dont back track on your claims and do the opposite when u get married.

if it is not haram it is still bordering on haram and rasul :saw: told us that who ever gets in the habit of asking for haram halal only will end up getting in haram because doubtful matters can lead people to haram with out us knowing it. may allah save us all ameen.

so leave the doubtful for the doubtless.

I wish I knew what your point is. Are you saying it is haraam for females to take their husband’s surname after marriage, or are you poking fun at those who don’t?

The ruling in the first post draws heavily from Arabian customs of naming people as falana bin dhimkana and falani bint dhimkani. I guess, in their opinion, all other naming conventions are haraam because it doesn’t fit their nice snug Arab model. Good for them. This issue is consistent with Islam-QA, and comes up again and again in their interpretatations and fatwas.

Funnily enough, while staunch feminists and traditional Islamic scholars are usually at opposite ends of any issue involving female rights.. on this one they are both joined and say women shouldn’t change her name. I am sure its a huge issue for some people. :slight_smile:

Faisal Bhai,

:rotfl:

You can come up with priceless gems.

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*Originally posted by Faisal: *
I wish I knew what your point is. Are you saying it is haraam for females to take their husband's surname after marriage, or are you poking fun at those who don't?

The ruling in the first post draws heavily from Arabian customs of naming people as falana bin dhimkana and falani bint dhimkani. I guess, in their opinion, all other naming conventions are haraam because it doesn't fit their nice snug Arab model. Good for them. This issue is consistent with Islam-QA, and comes up again and again in their interpretatations and fatwas.

Funnily enough, while staunch feminists and traditional Islamic scholars are usually at opposite ends of any issue involving female rights.. on this one they are both joined and say women shouldn't change her name. I am sure its a huge issue for some people. :)
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i m saying what ever your positin is, dont be a hypocrite and change it once u get married. cuz i have seen it lots of time.

i belive we should not change names, and i pray i dont change my position after i get married.

i belive we should not change names

^ Unless you are female, no one expects you to change your name, so its basically a decision of your would-be wife. Insha Allah, you should have enough respect for your would-be wife to allow her to make her own decisions on matters that affect her.

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Originally posted by Faisal: *
*i belive we should not change names

^ Unless you are female, no one expects you to change your name, so its basically a decision of your would-be wife. Insha Allah, you should have enough respect for your would-be wife to allow her to make her own decisions on matters that affect her.
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what benefit does changing name does? and the possibe harm is that it could be haram, so why not just not change it to avoid haram. i dont get why women want to change names any way? have ur own identity and stick with it.

i acually know of a case that a girl changed her FIRST name ..i mean she was called some thing until her 10th grade, and then she told us i m not that but this...we were like whattt....whats up with this lack of self esteem regarding names? i m sure some guys have done it too....

I am not arguing one way or the other whether a surname should be changed. To me, its a storm in a teacup and a non-issue. Arabs may do it one way, and thats fine for them. To call it haraam every other way is known as "tunnel vision". But thats upto the intelligence of the reader as well.

I am more disappointed in people who make it a matter of ego (either way) and FORCE their wife to conform to their thinking.

Re: first name change.... thats a totally different topic. People do it for any number of reasons, and I am not about to pass judgements on them. Everyone has a right to be happy. Live and let live.

Baywakoof Logo.. Nam may kiya Rakha hey? Do we need Fatwas over such rhetorical stuff? In Matrilineal societies people take on their maternal family names. In macho societies like Arabobo society, both parents are referred to by the name of their oldest ‘son’ even if they have 8 older daughters. It’s like Aboo Madhanee and Ummah Madhanee. Think of it this way, some societies revolve around penis and other around vagina. The choice is yours. Don’t let religious rulings confuse you. Naming convention is not such a big deal in large schemes of things. It is just a dog-tag.

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I have echoed what Faisal said above.

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*Originally posted by Faisal: *
I am not arguing one way or the other whether a surname should be changed. To me, its a storm in a teacup and a non-issue. Arabs may do it one way, and thats fine for them. To call it haraam every other way is known as "tunnel vision". But thats upto the intelligence of the reader as well.

I am more disappointed in people who make it a matter of ego (either way) and FORCE their wife to conform to their thinking.

Re: first name change.... thats a totally different topic. People do it for any number of reasons, and I am not about to pass judgements on them. Everyone has a right to be happy. Live and let live.
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i was just wondering why would someone change their first name...i m not spewing foam from my mouth at this issue....and u should have noticed that i did not CALL it haram cuz we dont know. i mean i said it is doubtfull and i would rather avoid doubtful...

Whats wrong in taking the husbands last name? Doesnt it just make matters a lot easier for the married couple?

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*Originally posted by ThandyMazaq: *

i was just wondering why would someone change their first name...i m not spewing foam from my mouth at this issue....and u should have noticed that i did not CALL it haram cuz we dont know. i mean i said it is doubtfull and i would rather avoid doubtful...
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The first post called a woman changing her surname after marriage as "haram", and thats what I commented on. You can believe whatever makes sense to you.

Secondly you said "i mean i said it is doubtfull and i would rather avoid doubtful"... well good news. You, being a guy, don't have to change your name, so you can easily avoid 'doubtful'. Cheers!

Thirdly, first name change... ask someone who changed his, and he can tell you why he did. There can be any number of very valid reasons. You may not agree to any of those reasons, and thats fine. You shouldn't change your first name, if you don't want to. Again, cheers!

If my wife is extra nice to me I will take her last name.

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Changing the Wife’s Last Name

Changing the Wife’s Last Name

Answered by Shaykh Amjad Rasheed, Shafii faqih

Is it permissible for a woman to change her family name to her husband’s family name? Is it permissible for her to join between her own family name and her husband’s family name? (If her name is Aisha Qureshi and her husband’s name is Ahmad Rashid, then an example of the former would be for her to change her name to Aisha Rashid and an example of the latter would be for her to change her name to Aisha Qureshi-Rashid)

If, by changing her family name and ascribing herself to another family, she intends to absolve herself of and turn away from her lineal ascription to her own father from whose loins she came, and to make herself a daughter of that other family, then this is a major sin that is extremely forbidden. Its prohibition has been transmitted with rigorously authenticated (sahih) chains in Bukhari and Muslim and other collections of hadith. [The reason for its extreme prohibition] is that it comprises showing ungratefulness for one's blessings, disregard for the rights of inheritance, kinship, reason, and other things, in addition to the severance of kinship ties and parental disobedience that it entails, as Imam Nawawi has explained.

If, however, the matter is not like this, but is merely an ascription of the wife’s name to her husband’s that some people have become habituated to doing without her intending to absolve herself of her lineal ascription to her father and adopting someone else as a father, then what is immediately apparent from the words of Imam Nawawi and others is that it is not forbidden and does not fall under the prohibition.

Imam Nawawi in his commentary on Sahih Muslim (2.50), commenting on the hadith, “There is nothing from a man who calls himself by other than his father except unbelief (kufr),” says, “The meaning of, calls himself by other than his father is ascribes himself to him and takes him as his father.” This implies that the one who does not take him as a father has not called himself by other than his father.

The great scholar Ibn ‘Allan al-Siddiqi says in his commentary on Riyad al-Salihin (8.614) in “The Chapter of Forbidden Matters” while talking about the above hadith,

“This means that he also intends to negate his paternal lineage from himself, for otherwise, if he is commonly known through the lineage of his grandfather or of the one who adopted him, for example, and he then ascribes himself to that because of its common knowledge among people, not intending to negate it from his own lineage, then the warning mentioned below does not apply to him.”

Amjad Rasheed

Amman, Jordan

(Translated by Hamza Karamali).

This is the same ruling in the Hanafi school, as understood from Imam Ayni’s commentary on Bukhari (Umdat al-Qari, 16.80) – Faraz Rabbani