as salam o alaikum
When praying Isha namaz Qaza, is it compulsory to pray
4 Farz and 3 Witr
or
only 4 Farz?
jazak Allah
masalama
as salam o alaikum
When praying Isha namaz Qaza, is it compulsory to pray
4 Farz and 3 Witr
or
only 4 Farz?
jazak Allah
masalama
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when praying qaza namaaz for ishha u must pray 4 farz + 3 witr becauz the 3 witr are wajib (close to compulsory) and a wajib can’t be missed so u must.
may peace be with you
jazakallah inso
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Insolent, any chance that you could post a source for that? A fatwa, or a hadith?
Extracted from the book: A Guide to Prayer in Islam. by M.A.K. Saqib International Islamic Publishing House. For free distribution.
"Pray as you have seen me praying" (Hadith)
Witr prayer is sunat Mu'akkadah. It is very much emphasized by Prophet Muhammad (saw). He did not leave this prayer even during journey or when mounted on camelback.
It was so much emphasized that some Muslim scholars understood that it was wajib (compulsory) but after a careful study of Ahadith it can be said that it is not wajib but very much emphasized prayer.
Witr prayer is often mistakenly thought of as part of Isha prayer. This is not so. Witr prayer is a separate prayer which can be offered after the Isha prayer right up to the break of the dawn. For the convenience of the believers the Prophet (saw) allowed Witr allowed witrs to be offered straight after isha.
In Arabic the word witr means, One. In Hadith the Messenger of Allah (saw) said, "Allah is one, so he likes the number ONE" (Muslim)
Allah also likes odd numbers. For this reasons, Prophet (saw) preferred odd numbers. He liked to do things in odd numbers in in his routine life, also, such as: when saying duas, eating dates etc.
Abdullah bin Umar (ra) says that the Messenger of Allah said: "Night prayer is to be offered in 2 rakats - units. When one of you feels that dawn is near then he should offer 1 rakat which can make all the night prayer he offered into an odd number." (Bukhari, Muslim)
**Rakats of Witr
Abdullah bin Umar (ra) said that the Messenger of Allah said: "Witr prayer is one Rakat at the end of Nafil prayer at night"
Abu Ayub (ra) said that the Prophet Muhammad (saw) said: "Every Muslim should pray witr. Anyone who likes to pray 5 rakats of witr he should do so., and anyone who likes to pray 3 rakats, he should do so, and anyone who likes to pray one rakat, he should do so."
(Abu Dawud, Nisai, Ibn Majah)**
We understand from the above mentioned hadiths that the actual witr prayer is one rakat, although a person can offer 1, 3, 5, 7, or 9 rakats of witr prayer. All of these numbers are approved by Prophet Muhammad (saw) in authentic ahadith.
(Dear sister Irem I hope this answers your question)
Time of Witr Prayer
Witr prayer can be offered after the Isha prayer right up to the break of the dawn.
Aisha (ra) said: "Prophet Muhammad (saw) prayed witr during all times of the night. Sometimes he prayed Witr during the first part of the night, sometimes during the middle part of the nigh, and sometimes during the end part of the night but he used to complete the prayer before the break of dawn." (Bukhari, Muslim)
However, a person who thinks he/she could not get up to pray witr at the end part of the night can offer witr immediately after isha or before he goes to bed. But someone who thinks that he can get up and pray nafl in the night should pray witr at the end of the night prayer.
Jabir (ra) said that the Prophet (saw) said: Anyone of you who could not get up at the end part of the night should pray witr in the first part of the night and anyone of you who thinks he can get up at the end part of the night he should pray witr then, because the angels are present for the prayer offered at the end part of the night." (Muslim, Ahmad, Tirmizi, Ibn Majah)
witr are wajib islamabad what are u on its not wajib ofcourse it is, i haven;t read anywhere that witr contain more than 3 rakaat and that u can pray it in stages of the night.
all i know is witr are wajib and thats it.
islamabad, tell me as u have said that witr can contain upto 9 raqaats tell me in which raqaat would u then have qada ula and in which raqaat qaaada akheera, thats odd numbered raqaat, there can’t be a qaada akheera in odd numbered raqaaats, can they!!! + in which raqaaat would u read dawa-e-qanoot.
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Dear brother in Islam,
I have quoted the Sahih hadiths. Nothing is from me. In case of religion we cannot make our own judgments. The sayings of the Prophet (saw) are in front of you. I do understand that when I also for the first time read this I was shocked, but it is true. This is what the Prophet practiced.
In Pakistan we not many people know this. There is a reason for it. We are not well versed in Arabic and so we are just told the minimum required. Although there are many things you can do in prayer. For example, the Prophet (saw) used to read many duas in Sijda, and in Ruku. We don’t know Arabic so we do not do so.
I have mentioned only what the Prophet (saw) himself said. As Muslims we accept what he (saw) says, even though it may sound new to us. If you know otherwise than present authentic ahadith. I do request that you do not pass judgments on the validity of some religious issue without knowledge.
If you want I can also tell you about the way of offering witr as told by the Prophet(saw). I will InshaAllah soon type the way also .
Jazakallah brother Islamabad :k:
One more question for you. I do not know dua-e-qunoot and although everyone keeps telling me learn it i have just been lazy
and just read qulhuallahuahad surah three times as a replacement as thats what is commonly done… Is that acceptable as a permanent thing or is that just something temporary and I should learn dua-e-qunoot or is it not necessary? Jazakallah.
inso...what brother Islamabad has said is right i have also heard it...
Dua Qanut in Witr Prayer
Reading dua Qanut in the last rakat of the witr prayer is proven from Prophet Muhammad (saw) and it can be read before ruku or after ruku.
Humaid (ra) narrated, that he asked Anas (ra) about the dua Qanut, whether it should be read before the ruku before the ruku or after the ruku.
Anas (ra) replied, "We used to say it before the ruku and after the ruku."
(Ibn Majah, Qiam-ul-Lail of Muhammad bin Nasar al Marwazi Fathul Bari)
Some Fuqahas insist that reading dua Qanut is compulsory in the last rakat of the Fajr prayer. Some sclolars also say that if someone does not know dua Qanut he need not say another chapter of the Quran or any other words in its replacement. The prayer will not be deficient. Dua Qanut can be read in any prayer.
It has been reported from the prophet that the best of prayers are the
longest ie with the Qunut and that the Qunut can also preceed the ruku'u.
So I do not have deep knowledge of this and this is all I could find. May Allah guide us. I personally do not beleve in calling myslef from any of the Islamic schools of thought. I am a simple Muslim and take whatever is in the Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet (saw).
And Allah knows best.
jazakallah for the useful info brother :-):k:
Can you pray Witr right before you say your fajr prayers?
When does the time of Witr end? Should I deliberately delay it until the time of Fajr?.
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
The time for Witr prayer lasts from after ‘Isha’ prayer until the dawn begins. See question no. 46544.
Once dawn begins, the time for Witr is over, based on the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Pray Witr before morning comes.” Narrated by Muslim, 754.
Muslim also narrated from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Hasten to pray witr before dawn.”
And Muslim narrated (752) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Witr is one rak’ah at the end of the night.”
Al-Tirmidhi narrated (469) from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When dawn comes, all the night prayers and Witr are over, so pray Witr before dawn comes.” Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
Al-Bukhaari (472) and Muslim (749) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The night prayers are two (rak’ahs) by two, then when you think that morning (dawn) is about to begin, pray one (rak’ah) and it will make what you have prayed Witr (odd-numbered).”
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said:
This indicates that the time for Witr ends when the dawn comes, because it is a prayer with which the night prayers are concluded, so it cannot be done after the night has ended.
Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 14/115
Some of the scholars are of the view that the time for Witr lasts after the dawn comes, until one has prayed Fajr, and they quoted as evidence the report narrated about some of the Sahaabah, that they prayed Witr after dawn had come and before the iqaamah was said for Fajr prayer.
Ibn Rushd al-Qurtubi said:
With regard to the time for Witr, the scholars are unanimously agreed that the time for it is from after ‘Isha’ prayer until dawn begins, because that was narrated through numerous isnaads from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). One of the strongest such reports is that narrated by Muslim from Abu Nadrah al-‘Awfi, which says that Abu Sa’eed told them that they asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about Witr and he said: “Witr comes before dawn.” They differed as to whether it is permissible to pray it after dawn. Some of them said it is not allowed, and others said that it is allowed so long as one has not yet prayed Fajr. The first view was expressed by Abu Yoosuf and Muhammad ibn al-Hasan, two companions of Abu Haneefah, and Sufyaan al-Thawri, and the second was expressed by al-Shaafa’i, Maalik and Ahmad. The reason for their difference of opinion was the actions of some of the Sahaabah which differed from what is mentioned in the reports.
My view concerning this matter is that what they did does not contradict the reports that have been narrated concerning that – I mean the reports which say that they allowed praying Witr after dawn. Rather they allowed it in cases where it needs to be made up, not as a regular practice. Their view would only contradict the reports if they said that this prayer could be offered after dawn on a regular basis. Think about it.
Bidaayat al-Mujtahid, 1/147, 148
Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
There are many ahaadeeth on this topic, which indicate that the time for witr ends when dawn begins.
Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 11/306.
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i hope that answers the question.
Thank you TM!! The last bit was very helpful!! :)
Re: Witr included when praying Isha Qaza?
IM: If witr is sunnah, how can it be wajib? Highly recommended maybe, like tarawee prayers, but not compulsory.
I have not read the entire fatwas posted above, but my understanding is that it is wajib. If someone regularly prays tahajjud, then they usually don't pray witr with Isha, but with tahajjud. But if it is not likely that you will pray tahajjud, then praying witr with isha is fine.
Also, I have seen people recite Sura-e-Ikhlaas in place of Dua-e-Qunoot. I dunno whats the Islamic position on that. I learnt Dua-e-Qunoot way back in my childhood (bless my Qaari saheb!), and I think its fairly short and easy to learn. So try. Insha Allah, you will learn it in 30 minutes.