wine cooked foods

This may have been brought up before. Is food cooked in wine halal?. Since all of alcohol evaporates upon heating, it seems there is no risk of getting drunk. For example, beer battered fried fish. After it is cooked, there is no smell of beer or alcohol from the end-product.

Please stick to the topic.

If the alcohol evaporates, which is by no means certain, it's still haram. The reason being, in the moment of contact with the alcohol, the food would become Najis and therefore haram . This is the same as Najasat, eg: a drop of blood from a cut, enters the food.

What about when some people sometimes just suck their finger after a cut and probably take the blood in, thats najis too i guess and they show it in them dumb lolly/bollywood flicks. So irritating.

So touching sharab is haram too? I thought only drinking is.

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I don't think touching alcohol is haraam, but in your example, the alcohol is touching the food which would be eaten. That's the difference.

But by the time I consume the food, alcohol would have evaporated. no?

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There is uncertainty in that though. That's the problem.

What about the wine in the rivers of Paradise? :slight_smile:

are there not trace amounts of alcohol in othernitems which we consume on a daily basis?

OKay well what about non alcoholic wines then? My teacher used non alcoholic wine for cooking in my Creative Cuisine class in HighSchool. She said we couldn’t cook with alcoholic wine because we’re high school students not 21 one yet and blah blah blah. So if the wine was alcoholic it would have been eveporated anyways so then what is the point in cooking the food with either non or alcoholic wine? I am confused now :mad:

LM

it is probablyu more of an issue of preventing underage ppl from nicking a few bottles of the wine and get drunk. the school could be sued for contributing to the delinquincy of a minor.

More of a legal issue than anything.

Some may say that oh but they can control is and make sure no student steals it, but its gonna be more of a hassle managing that than just setting a standard policy of not having alcohol present.

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LM

it is probablyu more of an issue of preventing underage ppl from nicking a few bottles of the wine and get drunk. the school could be sued for contributing to the delinquincy of a minor.

More of a legal issue than anything.

Some may say that oh but they can control is and make sure no student steals it, but its gonna be more of a hassle managing that than just setting a standard policy of not having alcohol present.
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Duh Pir Saab that I know, I mean its so abvious.
But whats confusing me is non or alcoholic why does it matter because the alcohol evaporates anyways. So whats the big deal about haram or halaal? And with non alcohol it tastes the same as it would have with alcoholic (cuisine teacher said that) She even said you could subsitute sparkling ciders when I told her for religious purposes I wouldn't be able to use alcoholic cooking wine.

Do a search and you'll find a similar thread started by pumpkin..i am sure you'll find that thread helpful :-)

Assalam O Alaikum

Alcohol in wine or other alcoholic beverages is culprit of getting intoxicated. If alcohol is distilled out of the wine, then a flavored liquid is leftover and it does not cause intoxication.

Alcohol is produced in over ripped fruits, during Naan or bread making but it is evaporated during baking of Naan or bread. Alcohol produced naturally in minute amount in fruits and bread is not considered Haram. Man made alcohol is Haram. If you used cooking wine to prepared foods then the those foods became Haram no matter alcohol is evaporate completely or not. USDA has published a list of dishes where cooking wine was used and repoted amount of leftover alcohol in those dishes. In some dishes there are over 25% alcohol remained in the foods.

Ulema will not considered a food Halal if it is prepared with cooking wine or fish battered where beer is used. But Ulema has different opinion about use of Natural or Artificial food flavors in food products where alcohol is used as a solvent in those food flavors. Some Ulema considered these food products not Halal and some considered them Halal because they said alcohol is evaporated or in remain a very minute amount which do not make a person intoxicate if all other ingredients in the food products are Halal.

Non-Alcoholic beverages are made with alcoholic beverages where alcohol is distilled out by use of cones but the flavors developed during alcoholic fermentation remains in the non-alcoholic beverages. They are not considered Halal because they started with alcoholic beverages and alcoholic ferementation by-product flavors remains in them.

Wine Vinegar or Balsamic vinegar are not Halal because wine is not completely converted to acetic acid and water. There 1-2% wine left over during conversion. Distilled vinegar, Spirit vinegar, Grain vinegar are made from dilute alcohol in which dilute alcohol is converted to acetic acid and water by acetobacter bacteria. The left over dilute alcohol is very minimum. The reason they are Halal because of Al-Ishtihala which means a thing is completly changed to new thing with new properties and new name according to Imam Abu Hanifa.

Syed Rasheeduddin Ahmed

Why Naturally Brewed Soy Sauce is Haram

Assalam o Alaikum

Here is the answer from the company who makes the Naturally Brewed Soy sauce and lot of chineese restaurants uses that soy sauce.

Syed Rasheeduddin Ahmed

03/23/03

Question From: “Andrea Douglas”
To: [email protected]
Subject: Fwd: Kikkoman Soy Sauce
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:01:37 -0500

From: Consumer Dept

To: “Mrs. Andrea Douglas”
Subject: Kikkoman Soy Sauce
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 16:26:30 -0800

Dear Mrs. Douglas:

We received your e-mail regarding Kikkoman Soy Sauce. You wanted to know
if it contains any galcohol or animal products.h We always welcome any
questions our consumers may have.

Kikkoman Soy Sauce is a naturally brewed productclike wine or beer. It
is made from wheat, soybeans, salt and water. During the fermentation
process, the wheat starches are broken down to sugars and part of the
sugar is changed into alcohol. Therefore, it contains approximately 1.5
to 2% alcohol by volume.

Kikkoman Soy Sauce does not contain any animal products.

We hope we have answered your questions about our soy sauce. We will be
sending you our latest newsletter and a set of recipe materials for your
cooking enjoyment. If we can be of further assistance, please let us know.

Sincerely,
KIKKOMAN INTERNATIONAL INC.
Consumer Services

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e-newsletter. Go to www.kikkoman-usa.com and look under “Offers.”

‘ÛŽ–‹Æ“Š‡ wrote:

From: “Consumer”
To:
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:16:21 +0900 (JST)

CONTACT US(Consumer) FORM MAILER

Inquiring Type SOY SAUCE
Name1 Mrs
Name2 Andrea Douglas

City Washington
State DC
Country USA
Postal Code 20002
Phone 2025296345
Fax
Message Is there alcohol or animal products in your plain soy sauce?
Do you wish to address this message to Kikkoman in North & South America

Answer:
Assalam O Alaikum
Thanks for providing the answer from Kikkoman’s letter. We have published on web site www.muslimconsumergroup.com News/Alert section in June or July 2001 that Kikkoman Soy Sauce contains 1-2% alcohol. This is reason we considered Kikkoman Soy sauce or other soy sauce made from Natural brewing process using soybean and wheat isa Haram ingredient. But all purpose soy sauce made from hydrolyzed soy protein, water, salt, corn syrup and sodium benzoate sold under LaChoy brand is Halal. Many chineese restauarant uses the Haram soy sauce.
Syed Rasheeduddin Ahmed