Will the SC block Mushrraf's nomination for presidency?

Even people in his own party think that SC will block his presidential bid. So the question is what is next? In next 45 days we should find out what future Mushrraf has in Pakistan, if any.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/17/world/asia/17pakistan.html?ex=1345003200&en=fe9424eac7257072&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

Even Musharraf’s Allies Question His Re-election Goal

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By CARLOTTA GALL
Published: August 17, 2007

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Aug. 16 — As President Pervez Musharraf begins his campaign this week for re-election to another five-year term, **senior figures in the governing party have warned that the Supreme Court will almost certainly block his nomination for president and declare it unconstitutional.

American efforts to prod General Musharraf into a power-sharing arrangement with the exiled opposition leader, Benazir Bhutto, as a way for him to continue as president would run into the same difficulty, the politicians said.**

The Supreme Court has a new-found independence since Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry fought off an attempt by General Musharraf this year to dismiss him and won reinstatement on July 20, the legislators said.

The chief justice has made clear his determination to uphold the Constitution and see an end to autocratic (governments :slight_smile: ), and he now represents the biggest obstacle for General Musharraf’s efforts to stay on as president.

“I think it is very difficult for him to get through the question of eligibility,” the minister of state for information technology and telecommunication, Ishaq Khan Khakwani, said in an interview this week. “I would wish that he get through, but there are too many ifs and buts.”

The unusually blunt comments in interviews from the general’s own supporters, including a former prime minister and the vice president of the governing party, the Pakistan Muslim League, are an indication of what they see as a strong shift against General Musharraf’s continued military rule.

Opposition parties have raised at least five objections to General Musharraf’s nomination as president, and since most of them touch on the Constitution, the objections will go to the Supreme Court for decisions, Mr. Khakwani said. Not least among them is the fact he is both the president and the army chief of staff, something the Constitution bars.

Mr. Khakwani and others said General Musharraf should resign his military post if he wanted to overcome the opposition in the courts and in the streets. They would back him as a civilian candidate for president, they said, but as a military chief, his position was increasingly untenable.

But some said that even giving up his army post might not be enough.

Among the thorniest of problems is whether General Musharraf, 64, who seized power in a coup in 1999 and then was made president by referendum in 2002, can be considered to have already served the maximum two consecutive terms in office.

Then there is the fact that even if General Musharraf resigned as the army’s chief, technically he should allow two years to lapse before running for elected office.

Finally, there is the question of the appropriateness of having the general elected for a new five-year term by the current National Assembly, which would be dissolved immediately after the election. That vote is to be held by an electoral college of the national and provincial parliaments between Sept. 15 and Oct. 15.

“Politically and morally I do not think he should be re-elected by the sitting assembly,” Mr. Khakwani said. “If I were to offer an opinion to him, I would say, ‘Sir, please, take off your uniform, appoint a new chief of army staff and stand for election.’ ”

But so far the general has rejected that idea. He told party supporters on Thursday that he would run for re-election in uniform, Reuters reported.

General Musharraf, who came very close last week to imposing emergency rule but backed away after heavy media, political and diplomatic pressure, has continued to insist that his plans are in accordance with the Constitution.

Yet more and more of his political supporters say the Supreme Court is unlikely to reconcile his ambitions with the law, even if he agrees to a power-sharing deal with Ms. Bhutto.

Such a deal envisages her giving him support to change the Constitution to allow him to continue in power.

Richard A. Boucher, the United States assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asia, who was recently in Islamabad for two days of talks with the government, said General Musharraf had made a commitment to carrying out the transition from military rule to democracy, and to addressing the issue of his army post during that transition, but Mr. Boucher declined to say more.

The prospect that General Musharraf’s nomination will be struck down means the party should prepare one or two reserve candidates, Mr. Khakwani said. He suggested Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz or the president of the Pakistan Muslim League, Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, as alternatives.

Most political supporters of the president who were interviewed said they preferred that the general resign and that he test his popularity for president after new parliamentary elections.

“I would advise free and fair elections and that he behave like a fatherly figure,” said Riaz Hussein Pirzada, an experienced legislator who joined the Pakistan Muslim League in 2002 because he knew and liked General Musharraf. “If he has to transfer power, it should be done legally and in a calm manner. No one can stay forever, and he has done a lot for the country.”

The mood in the country, led by lawyers’ associations and the political opposition, may overtake any power-sharing deal between General Musharraf and Ms. Bhutto, legislators said.

“There will be a wider movement against the president,” Syed Kabir Ali Wasti, vice president of the Pakistan Muslim League, predicted.

The bar associations, which orchestrated a countrywide campaign in support of Chief Justice Chaudhry, would begin a new campaign against the president’s election in uniform when they returned from summer break on Sept. 1, he said.

“I expect a successful movement,” he said. “They are opinion writers and very important as far as public opinion is concerned.”

Mr. Pirzada agreed. “The government is in a difficult position because of the lawyers,” he said. “They are in a very tough mood. I think it will be a very difficult month for Pakistan.”

Re: Will the SC block Mushrraf's nomination for presidency?

Unless people of pakistan are mote incredibly naïve than before, Musharaf will get his way. He can continue if he wants to.The CJ was able to beat the rap because lawyers created a timely furor which found some popular support. I think popular support is with Musharaf continuing since all alternatives are more hated by people.People don't give rats tail about constitution or any other process - their problems and solutions are always emotional, which btw is all that saves average people from the mean intellectual and agenda driven elite, not only in present day pakistan but historically.To be frank I FIRMLY believe Musharaf has a LOT MORE to fear from others in uniform than public or the judiciary. The lawyers by and large know that even though they stood up for the CJ, that Musharaf's courage and performance has been far far superior to what CJ or anyone else has exhibited.My advise to Musharaf is to watch his back and his all his sides. Even if that means getting some american marines around him. I have no info or clues, just my gut instict says he should be careful.My advise to CJ is that this is NOT the issue or time to make a point. You know very well that even uif you win the skirmish, the battle and war (= pakistan) will be lost if Musharaf is violently replaced. And that's what will happen if justice muddles in now.My advise to all people - put your anti-american sentiments aside for your own and the world's sake. Don't confuse national pride and religious zealotry. Enough is enough. Musharaf needs 3 more years to get pakistan even in the right direction.

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Most credible people in the Pakistan scene are predicting that Pres Musharaf will not last long... I dont doubt them as they have been on the ground far far longer then I....
I just hope that when the time comes, the president leaves the scene with honor and respect...

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TA, Man you are so wrong. Musharraf is not indispensable to Pakistan's fortunes. He's a dictator. Let's get real here. Yes he has done a few good things on the economic front, freeing the press and media etc. but it's high time we removed the army from government for good. The military should confine themselves to the barracks as happens in most developed and civilised societies. The army should not behave like political opportunists and be ready to step in everytime our politicians make a mistake. Any change in leadership should come via the electoral process. Let the people decide who they want as their leader in the next elections. In most countries the COAS is subordinate to the defence minister/secretary. Only in Pakistan the COAS behaves like he blo*dy owns the country and (even when not in government) puts undue pressure on the elected PM and President by giving out unnecessary political statements

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Musharraf will soon disappear but not the army. It will remain the ruler of this country at least for next 10 years.

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^Well, any sudden change in this setup can spell chaos... So long as the Army doesnt get involved to much in political affairs and allows the strengthening of civilian institutions, Pakistan will be better for it...

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Yaar, where is your sense of adventure. Nothing wrong with a bit of chaos. It exercises ones mind in a positive way.

Pakistan without chaos is like haleem without meat. :)

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On 13th April 2005 a 5 judge panel of the Supreme Court panel headed by then CJ Justice Nazim Hussain Siddiqui, and including the present CJ Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry in a wide ranging judgement ruled that the LFO, 17th Amendment and the President being allowed to hold another office was decided by an elected parliament, and NOT for them to question.

The full judgement is on the Supreme Court website for all to read - second from the bottom in the link below, titled “JUDGMENT ON 17TH AMENDMEND AND PRESIDENT’S UNIFORM CASE”

http://www.supremecourt.gov.pk//judgment.htm

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lol... Chaos is great on a resteraunt menu, (despite the risk of E coli poisoning), but when it comes to politics, its justs spells disaster! :D

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So...if Musharraf has to leave...sooner or later...who could be the suitable candidate to replace him?

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Well, thats the unfortunate part.. There are probably many many good options among the varying parties... The problem is that the party bosses never allow anyone even within their party to take control! So if PPP comes to power or the PML, you would still have to deal with BB or the other same old faces...

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Yup! :k: Thanks Reza!

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Should be and Can be are 2 different things.Musharaf should go out peacefully, it should rain seasonally, ground should not shake.......but you have draought, you have earthquauke....4tuff happens.There is no acceptable successor to musharaf. If he goes and army remains you're back to uncontrolled army-isi-mulla nexus. If he goes and army goes, there's no way anyone can form the govt without selling out to the mulla devils. Only musharaf has been able to control the mullas. If he is taken out, expect civil war in the provinces, american lock out of nukes and earsure of afghan border. Two new countries will come up.Happy?

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Re: Will the SC block Mushrraf’s nomination for presidency?

^ What happens to the haleem? Will Mullas get that aswell? :mad:

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Kafeel Bhai can do as good a job as President as Musharraf if not better.

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You need to get out of your MQM circle and meet some real Pakistanis.

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What popular support? His ratings are in low 30s. BTW, judges of SC do not have guns, but they can pull rug of legitimacy under his feet, and he wont have much to stand on.

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^He’s got those SSG wings (and the sword and baton on the shoulders) remember? he can survive in air, water or land that means :wink: no worries if he has nothing to stand on :smiley:

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I think form of government is less important than earning bread...wow...I need some bread & water right away...don't care who rules... :)