will the hatred ever stop?

[Mahnoor]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

@Razea

Hey Phatti,

Honestly, who knows. Only Allah swt knows.

Still, I think its better with desis here in the US and UK. We get along much better because we interact in school and at work, and take comfort in the common culture.

My parents are like that too, they hate Pakistanis..and make fun of them plenty. I don’t..and I will never make fun of people who are different or speak ill of them in front of my kids inshAllah…it just goes against everything I stand for and believe in (Islam).

You should make your father more aware of the fact that there are muslims in India too (large population and growing still mashAllah)..and when he makes fun of Indians..he’s indirectly slandering us too...even though we should all rid ourselves of nationalism..this just isn’t the reality of the situation.

Things would definitely get better at a quicker pace.. if the Kashmir conflict was resolved..just my opinion.

You should also tell your parents about the Muslims in Pakistan. May be, they’ll stop hating us?
Hi femme !

[Femme_Fatale]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

Hi mahnoor :)

LD its gotta be detention then. And im not talking no for an answer this time.

[lazy_daisy]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

Nahhh

[lazy_daisy]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

phatima, i am an elf and make shoes for the shoemaker when he is asleep

[Let_Uz_Chat]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

I don't c why not. I myself have a lot of indian friends here in inglastaan. There is a lot of trust in between us, you know not your usual naam kai doost type. Ofcourse there are a lot of 'a holes' on both sides, some are pretty evident on this website itself, but majority in my opinion on both sides are nice friendly people; who wouldn't mind the occassional banter ever now and then.

Itehaad aur iteefaq is needed from both ends.

[LastOfTheDinosaurs]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

I don't see any difference between Urdu and Hindi. All the Indian movies and T.V. plays I wachted were intelligible to me. Many of my friends that visited India said they never felt any difficulty communicating with Indians and out of 200 words would they hear a sanskrit word.

Of course Hindustani Civilization is a great civilization one should feel proud to own. The Muslim Civilization of India is Hindustani in character with a lot of contribution to world Muslim Culture.

Rest the hostality by some Pakistanis or Indians to each other, that is artificial and useless.

[KhuShi786]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

@Femme Fatale

Hawwww. Toba toba.

Do you honestly think this will be a trend setter? Any two ppl spending time together can get to like eachother. How many Pakistani girls will be on their own with a hindu man to even have the opportunity to fall in love with one? Besides most of them already love some indian if not hindu actors anyway, so no its not that great an ‘influence’. Just one of many movies trying to promote positive feelings between the 2 countries.

look the point isnt that how many pakistani/muslim girls are gonna go and get with a hindu man…how bout you look at it this way…when you watch a movie at the end theirs a message or a moral given to you in the movie like if u saw baghban its saying to respect ur parents n stuff,but you tell me what do you think the point of this movie was? wat was the message being sent from Veer Zaara?? and liking an actor doesnt mean anything…i can love arjun rampal with him being a hindu doesnt mean im gonna go and have a relationship with him…thats two different things,..in islam its strictly forbidden to go and marry a hindu man…this movie has disrespected muslims …they made it look so nice cuz how Veer sacrifices his life n stuff,but no its showing something wrong,now i never saw a pakistani drama or film showing a hindu girl marrying a muslim man…if the director wasnt trying to show something bad…and if he did have good intentions of this film then he wud’nt have shown the girl being muslim or anything,it hurts to see movies showing such wrong things…i dont know where the positive feelings comes in…and their is a lot of difference in being from a different country…and having a different faith…if this movie was made for positive feelings in between two countries then they cud’ve shown a pakistani hindu and a indian hindu…they cudve made veer muslim…its an insult for a muslim daughter in law in a hindu family…its a bad message…n its sad that ppl tend not to understand…

[Man_with_a_Plan]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

@phatima1

Our cultures are very close, yes…and I’m not BLAMING it on the people in Pakistan. All I said was from the people I know, the ones that came here from Pakistan/India have had trouble getting along, that’s it. I never said that this applied to the majority or anything like that

Woooo girl, Pakistani culture is based primarily on Islam and dats it. Not on your dewali or holi culture you know, Pakistani culture is very different. Ok the Indian/ Pakistanis who are raised up in your U of Azz don’t hate each other but yo they hate themseleves you know. People hate and that’s how it goes every where you know… better know now than later.

and LD, Femme what were doing up all night my fantasies are running high :D. Thank you ladies…:biggthumb

[Femme_Fatale]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

FYI. Veer Zara was made along the lines of a pakistani movie where a sikh or hindu girl falls in love with a pakistani guy while she is visiting pakistan for some relgious festival or something.

The point of the movie...love is blind :D but honestly God gave everyone a brain and if you know right from wrong a single movie or even a multitude cannot make you go against ur beliefs that is IF ur beliefs are firm enough to start with.

[LastOfTheDinosaurs]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

@Man with a Plan

Woooo girl, Pakistani culture is based primarily on Islam and dats it. Not on your dewali or holi culture you know, Pakistani culture is very different. Ok the Indian/ Pakistanis who are raised up in your U of Azz don’t hate each other but yo they hate themseleves you know. People hate and that’s how it goes every where you know… better know now than later.

and LD, Femme what were doing up all night my fantasies are running high :D. Thank you ladies…:biggthumb

When there was no Islam, yhere was Hindustani Culture. Religion is but a small component of culture. Why are you ignoring other dimensions of culture like material and social cultures? What about common ethnicity, ecology, and geography?

[Femme_Fatale]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

@Man with a Plan

Woooo girl, Pakistani culture is based primarily on Islam and dats it. Not on your dewali or holi culture you know, Pakistani culture is very different. Ok the Indian/ Pakistanis who are raised up in your U of Azz don’t hate each other but yo they hate themseleves you know. People hate and that’s how it goes every where you know… better know now than later.

and LD, Femme what were doing up all night my fantasies are running high :D. Thank you ladies…:biggthumb

Holi and dewali have about as much to do with culture as ramadan and Eid. Take away religion and u will find a lot in common.

Where are u getting these weird notions from? Who said anyone was up all night?

[Miss_Mohabbat]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

@Man with a Plan

Woooo girl, Pakistani culture is based primarily on Islam and dats it. Not on your dewali or holi culture you know, Pakistani culture is very different. Ok the Indian/ Pakistanis who are raised up in your U of Azz don’t hate each other but yo they hate themseleves you know. People hate and that’s how it goes every where you know… better know now than later.

and LD, Femme what were doing up all night my fantasies are running high :D. Thank you ladies…:biggthumb

Pakistani culture is based on Islam? Are you taking the Micheal love? Since when are Menhdi’s at weddings Islamic? Both cultures (pak and indian) are practically the same thing, it’s a case of six and two threes really. Im a gori and I know that much!

[Capitol]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

@Miss_Mohabbat

Pakistani culture is based on Islam? Are you taking the Micheal love? Since when are Menhdi’s at weddings Islamic? Both cultures (pak and indian) are practically the same thing, it’s a case of six and two threes really. Im a gori and I know that much!

Hi Miss_Mohabbat,

I’ve attended an Iraqi wedding and the women had mehndi on. Here’s an interesting article on it:
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20011031/main8.htm

In Arabia, henna enjoyed religious sanction and even today, Muslims believe that its application is sunnah (a meritorious act). This explains why conservative Muslim women wear mehndi on their hands, feet and hair right through the yea. ]Mehndi reached India with the Arab invaders and became popular in northern states of Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, Punjab and Gujarat.

Now same may argue, it’s not Islamic, but rather culture, but it’s not Indian, rather it is Arab.

[Man_with_a_Plan]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

Woops, I think I hit the wrong nerve...:D

Everybody get down

[Miss_Mohabbat]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

@Capitol

Hi Miss_Mohabbat,

I’ve attended an Iraqi wedding and the women had mehndi on. Here’s an interesting article on it:
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20011031/main8.htm

Now same may argue, it’s not Islamic, but rather culture, but it’s not Indian, rather it is Arab.

You know I meant a menhdi function, not actually applying mehndi? Please don’t make me explain…it’s a Thursday.

[CM]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=161412&page=1&pp=30&highlight=Islam+Culture

Islam is a culture, a society, a civilization, a religion and a way of life.

[Femme_Fatale]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

No one disagrees to that CM but thats not how it is practised in most of Pakistan.

[ashtray]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

All of you born and raised in countries other than Pakistan and India, just SHUT UP. you have no clue.

[ashtray]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

Femme, aap bolti raho, the above was not for you.

[Femme_Fatale]

Re: will the hatred ever stop?

:D