Re: Will Pakistan army be tried for massacres in Bangladesh?
To Ali_r
So you wanted the Indian government to sit back and enjoy while millions were being raped and killed and thousands of people were pouring into the country as refugees.
Just a question why did ZAB refuse to hand over power to the legally elected. Just think.
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To Simplyme,
you think India cared about the rapes and murders at that time? Maybe they cared about the refugees, but thats It.
Just a question why was ZABs death being cheered by Indians?
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Why did your government then sponsor the other side? Didnt India think for sec. before pouring oil into flames? You are to be held responsible as much as any Pakistani.
I said "No you-too arguments"-don't make any sense.
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To manob: Can you please make your post readable? Thanks.
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Why did your government then sponsor the other side? Didnt India think for sec. before pouring oil into flames? You are to be held responsible as much as any Pakistani.
Are you talking about India helping MuktiBahini? There are two widely known reasons:
a) millions of refugees pouring into India was getting even worse and a poor country like India couldn't handle it
b) there was unmentionable atrocities being committed by Pakistan establishment and India couldn't just standby and watch
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With supporters like you and followers like binladen, islam will be dead within the decade
With enemies like you and followers of Zionists, Muslims will stop their independence on their enemies within the decade, and prosper.
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Are you defending what LalaMoosa said as a joke? 
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To manob: Can you please make your post readable? Thanks.
i edited it for u ehtasab tnx
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Will these Bangladeshis ever get justice? Will Pakistani army people who are alive willever be tried for killing millions of innocent Bangalis?
Bangladesh independence veteran seeks justice for victims 5 hours ago
DHAKA (AFP) — The families of the captured men had gathered outside to plead for their lives, but even at the tender age of 17, Mozaffar Ahamed Khan didn't hesitate to execute them.
"We couldn't excuse them. I shot them personally," the former Bangladesh freedom fighter said.
As members of the dreaded militias that backed the Pakistan army in its 1971 fight against Bangladesh independence, the seven men had committed atrocities against their compatriots.
"The families begged for them to be spared and we released most of them, but a few we could not because their crimes were so terrible," he said.
Nearly four decades on, however, 53-year-old Khan is plagued with guilt over one of the men whom he later found to be innocent.
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"They killed many freedom fighters, many Hindus, and raped many women. They were killers -- and against the country. My role was correct, I have no regrets," he said.
** "But the one innocent person, I still feel sorry for him," he said, adding that he had received "wrong information" implicating him in mass killings.
Bangladesh's nine-month war of independence with Pakistan ended more than 36 years ago. But the country has never come to terms with its wartime past, in which some Bangladeshis sided with Pakistan to try to prevent the break-up of the subcontinent's Muslim homeland.
The country had been formed following Indian independence in 1947 with its East and West wings (now Bangladesh and Pakistan) located more than 2,000 kilometres (1,200 miles) apart.
After the end of the war, leader of the Awami League party Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, who had spearheaded the independence struggle, returned from jail in Pakistan and took power in the newly-established nation.
But from the start the country was beset by problems and the turbulent events surrounding Sheikh Mujib's assassination in 1975 led to many alleged war criminals being released from prison without trial.
** Earlier this year, Amnesty International backed calls for a truth commission as well as an investigation into war crimes allegations.
"This is a fresh call for justice... the best way to heal the wounds of this nation," said the group's secretary general Irene Khan, herself a Bangladeshi.
The idea of a truth commission cuts little ice with Mozaffar Ahamed Khan. Instead he has filed his own case against 13 people, including two former ministers, alleging they helped plan an army operation in his home district of Keraniganj close to the capital Dhaka.
Up to 12,000 people were killed, more than half of them women and children, he has alleged.
In another mass killing in Keraniganj, the former independence fighter witnessed the aftermath of a Pakistan army operation that wiped out some 10,000 people.
"The savagery was unimaginable. I cannot explain how terrible it was," he said.
"I went there the next morning. The army had attacked the villages at night firing indiscriminately on the people. The ones that survived had been bayoneted. It was a massacre. Bodies were strewn everywhere," he added.
A senior general in the Pakistan army later conceded that at least 30,000 people were killed during the conflict. Dhaka has always maintained that many more died in a brutal military campaign of murder, rape and arson. **
Rather than pin his hopes on the distant prospect of government-led prosecutions, Khan filed his case with a Dhaka court late last year.
The court has since ordered police to investigate his allegations against the 13, who include Matiur Rahman Nizami, now leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami party and a former industries minister.
Three other high-ranking party officials including another former minister are also accused, although Jamaat has rejected the case as an attempt to defame the party.
Khan accuses Nizami and his 12 co-accused, some of whom have since died, of helping the Pakistan army and local militias plan massacres in three villages in Keraniganj on November 25, 1971.
He was head boy of his school when war broke out. Until then his ambition had been to secure a good job in order to provide for his impoverished family.
The intervening years, during which he worked as a small businessman, left him disillusioned at the way those who fought to establish Bangladesh have been treated.
Politicians in successive governments courted alleged war criminals for electoral gain while amassing vast fortunes through graft, he charged.
But he remains determined to keep up his fight for justice.
"Because most of the killings took place in villages, those who were victims were mostly very poor. They have never been able to protest or raise their voices," he said.
"I still feel the pain of the events of November 25, 1971 and I have expressed my feelings by filing the case."
He is not hopeful, however, that it will lead to trials and believes the accused are using their influence to prevent the facts being placed before the court.
The deadline for the police report to be submitted has already been postponed twice but he is adamant he will not be deterred.
"I want that they should be brought to justice," he said. "Even after 35 years I want justice. Even if it was 100 years, I would still want it."
**NADA!
First let us Prosecute Emperor Akbar for .............Anarkali's Live Burial........:(
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^ I'm all for letting bygones be bygones but since there are still many people living that saw these tragedies, it cannot be too easility dismissed.
I mean, they are still hunting nazis from ww2, so what's wrong in prosecuting war crimes from BD in 1971?
but as Teggy remarked, you cannot just go sue an entire army in general. The ivestigation should focus on the leaders and the senior officers
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^ I'm all for letting bygones be bygones but since there are still many people living that saw these tragedies, it cannot be too easility dismissed.
I mean, they are still hunting nazis from ww2, so what's wrong in prosecuting war crimes from BD in 1971?
but as Teggy remarked, you cannot just go sue an entire army in general. The ivestigation should focus on the leaders and the senior officers
And what about the atrocities the Mukhti Bahini commited.............Pakistan Army came in responce to the rebellion of Mukhti Bahini.........:(
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^ if they committed those, that should be brought up too.
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^ lol its like asking the french high court to convict the terrorists who called themselves the "french resistence" .....
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And what about the atrocities the Mukhti Bahini commited.............Pakistan Army came in responce to the rebellion of Mukhti Bahini.........:(
very true infact a bihari family stayed in our house for some time my parents tell me after the war and they narrated many such atrocities as well
but history is written by the victors ...so all this is forgotten usually .....
it was a hindu sponsored nationalistic hate campaign which was started in bangladesh resulted in such a bloody ugly civil war amongst muslims
someone suggested that BD was more of a problem than help i disagree completely by the seperation of BD the whole concept of 2 nation theory was a indira gandhi said "drowned in the bay of bengal"
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I said "No you-too arguments"-don't make any sense.
Obviously you dont.
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Are you talking about India helping MuktiBahini? [quote] There are two widely known reasons: a) millions of refugees pouring into India was getting even worse and a poor country like India couldn't handle it
Wasn't I mentioning this one in the above post?
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b) there was unmentionable atrocities being committed by Pakistan establishment and India couldn't just standby and watch
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Nor India at that time and nor India today will ever bother about anything but themselves.
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Why do you say that? Didn't India respond to help in Afghanistan? We are still helping them a lot with money, services and infrastructure (though we ourselves are quite short in all three). During the tsunami aftermath when the rest of the world offered big time help to India, India denied that and asked those funds to be given to other needy countries.
Come on
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Obviously you dont.
obviously.....no point discussing further if you can't understand. don't respond.
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Hi im a new user of this forum and im Bangladeshi
I couldn’t resist myself after seeing the comments u have posted about the independent war of Bangladesh in ’71. I think u should not comment about what u don’t know at all. Let me say something. In 1947 we were proud to be a Pakistani like East Pakistan and west. What do you think made us so desperate for our independence in ’71? After the separation in 47, 3/2% of national income was from East Pakistan as we produced jute which was called golden fiber of Bangladesh But as our government was from West Pakistan we were neglected as well. We didn’t fight like tamil do in Srilanka. We went out for our legal right. What did the government do??? They shot bullets and tear shell upon us…after a long period of agitation the formal government held a meeting in 25th march to focus us on the meeting and bring military to our country. Do u know what happened at that night???? military killed almost every police, fire fighter, solders and student of Dhaka university. Do u want to watch how they killed the innocent student of university hostel??? Mail me I will send u the video clip. Now they were rebel right??? Just think if we, the Bangladeshi military kill ur father and brother at that time how would u react??? We fought for our right, our right of survival… how can u forget now bangle is the international language of world, why??? Because we sacrificed our life for our language…and who was the killer…well I don’t think u can’t remember that.3million people were killed in 1971 do you think it’s a joke??? And on the other hand the war of 1971 took from 25th march to 16th December at that time Indian army fought only for 11 days rest of that time we fought…our normal student peasent people defeated your (world’s greatest)?? Army. Forget it. We are not talking about taking revenge. Do u know why we r greater nation then u??? after we defeat Pakistani army..94000 army surrendered. we didn’t even touch them.. but even these days u cant regret for your misdeed. Let me tell u a story in Nakhalpara 200ft apart from my home there was a concentration or torture camp of Pakistani army. They arrested many young man from Dhaka and killed them. Everyday they brought school, college girls from everywhere of. If any girl was so unfortunate to be beautiful they don’t bother to take her into a room ..they used to rape her in front of everyone in open road. the whole platoon tear her like a crazy hungry beast. Now think if we did it to your mother or sister what would u do??? Don’t think this is the whole story. the other thing is that ... dont think or tell about islamic worthless unity morality cause u didnt show it to afganistan.u fought well along with america :D what i said is not to hurt u i just told u to realise what ur army did against us, this brutal crime should be treated as the inferior genoside of this decade. okk guyzz sorry to disturb u..it was a pleasure to be with you. Byee then take care saleh ahmed(manob)
Let me say that ur replies are bit exgurated... let me prove that by asking u one simple question out of ur reply..
The Golden Fiber, JUTE, which E.Pakistan was proud of, and was contributing 3/2% to Pakistan, why didn't it helped to imporve the situation of a Common Bengali, why they are sitll classified are poor nation, as there was no West Pakistan to EAT ur wealth.. what happend then? u got ur independence, U got ur leaders right? then where did the wealth went? why Bangli is suffering???
Re: Will Pakistan army be tried for massacres in Bangladesh?
Let me say that ur replies are bit exgurated... let me prove that by asking u one simple question out of ur reply..
The Golden Fiber, JUTE, which E.Pakistan was proud of, and was contributing 3/2% to Pakistan, why didn't it helped to imporve the situation of a Common Bengali, why they are sitll classified are poor nation, as there was no West Pakistan to EAT ur wealth.. what happend then? u got ur independence, U got ur leaders right? then where did the wealth went? why Bangli is suffering???
Jute fiber has been replaced with Fiber Glass and other synthetic fibers that are much stronger and are not biodegradable.................:(