WikiLeaks Cablegate: Indian Muslim population largely unattracted to extremism

Dec 20, 2010
New Delhi: Strongly endorsing the secular and nationalistic nature of Muslims in India, the United States has acknowledged that India’s over 150 million Muslim population is largely unattracted to extremism. Separatism and religious extremism have little appeal to Indian Muslims, and the overwhelming majority espouse moderate doctrines.

In a recorded commentary (released by WikiLeaks) about India’s 150 million plus Muslims (the second largest in the world after Indonesia), former US envoy to New Delhi David Mulford in 2005 said that Indian Muslim youth are comfortable in the mainstream and Muslim families and communities provide little sanction or support to extremist appeals.

Muslims at Jamiat Ulema conference held in April 2010 in Patna

“India’s vibrant democracy, inclusive culture and growing economy have made it easier for Muslim youth to find a place in the mainstream, reduced the pool of potential recruits, and the space in which Islamic extremist organizations can operate,” Mulford commented about Indian Muslims.

He also highlighted the problems and backwardness of the Muslim community in the country. India’s Muslim population suffers from higher rates of poverty than most other groups in India, and can be the victims of discrimination and prejudice. Despite this, the vast majority remains committed to the Indian state and seek to participate in mainstream political and economic life.
Endorsing secular credential of young Muslim generation he said: Most Muslims approaching graduation at universities will be prepared to enter the job market and are not interested in extremism.

Mr Mulford blasted the media propaganda that madrasas and Islamic seminaries in the country are teaching extremism.

The Indian media has published colorful stories implying that Madrassas are recruiting centers for Islamic terrorism and that many are funded by Pakistan’s ISI. The accounts are mostly anecdotal, however, and there has been little or no hard evidence linking Indian Madrassas to terrorist recruitment, he said.
Islamic extremism is not popular in India and most adults are not interested. This forces extremists to pitch to young and naive audiences who may be more amenable.
The US envoy said that at ground level both Muslim and non-Muslims are facing similar problems as far as social mobility is concerned.

**Muslims are facing the same pressures for social mobility as non-Muslims. Most Indian children are under pressure to get into school, stay in school, and perform well there, in order to obtain higher education and access to well-paid jobs. Attempts by extremist groups to recruit children from Muslim homes are likely to run into a wall of opposition from parents who would see involvement in extremism as counterproductive and a threat to future success of their children. This means that extremism is most attractive to children from families that are so poor that opportunities for education and advancement are all but non-existent. As the Indian economy continues to boom, the percentage of Muslim families who feel there is no hope for their children’s’ future is growing smaller, as is the pool of potential recruits. **

The December 2005 commentary on Indian Muslims by Mulford was written at the request of Washington DC.
http://twocircles.net/2010dec20/india%E2%80%99s_150_million_muslims_away_extremism_us_cable.html

a reason to celebrate for all. i am the bearer of good news :hat:
. love the bold part the most

Re: WikiLeaks Cablegate: Indian Muslim population largely unattracted to extremism

That's what I've always said, they are Indians first then muslim :k

Re: WikiLeaks Cablegate: Indian Muslim population largely unattracted to extremism

I Am A Muslim And Everyone Here Knows That.I Love India Like Anything ,I Am Proud That I Was Born Here And This Is My Country.I Have never Experienced Any Kind Of Prejudism Or Discrimination In India,Being A Muslim. :)

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Answer these questions for me then:

1) How Indian muslims support Brahman terrorism in Kashmir where millions have been killed by the Brahman Indian Army

2) How did Brahman Narender Singh Modi killed millions of Indian muslims in the name of Hindutva

3) These so called "Khans" of Bollywood- Aamir, Salman and Kala Shahrukh Khan never insist on Islamic themes and Naats in Bollywood movies. They never sport a beard nor do they offer namaz five times a day which is a fard

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This information is 5 years old?

Re: WikiLeaks Cablegate: Indian Muslim population largely unattracted to extremism

Kashif, I hate it when Pakistani's think they are the torchbearers of Islam. Islam is much bigger than Pakistan you know and you dont have to wear your religion on your shoulder, Religious practices should be personal and not superficial....just for display.

Your points 1 & 2 do not even warrant a response.

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A Hindu from Mumbai need not speak about Islam. We Pakistanis are closer to Islam because Saudi treats us like a younger brother. So, it does bother us when Indian muslims don't know a thing about Islam and give a bad name to our religion. We absorbed Indian muslims in our own country despite initially the agreement between goras and Quaid was to accept only Punjabis who were being butchered by Sikhs and Hindus in Eastern Punjab but the integration is always harder with the Indian muslims I think.

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I Believe You Got To Set A Few Points Right.FIrstly,There Is No Brahmin Army Operating In Kashmir.It;s The indian Army.Thd Indian Army Consists of Poeple Belonging To All religions And Sects.Muslims Are also There.:) Again Not Only The Army Operates There But Also the C.R.P.F And The State Ploce,Of Which Most Of Th members Are Muslims :) .You Got To Remember One Point That The Sme Jihadis Who Are Fighting In Kashmir Are Also Killing Muslims .But The Frequency Of Their Violence has Suffered A Major Blow After The Security Forces Have Been Able Inflict Major Crush On Them.

2)Secondly Narendra Modi Is Not A Brahmin But he Belongs To A Scheduled Caste Which May Be A new News To Many.But It Does Not Mean That Th Gujarat Carnage Can Not be Scaled Down To Any Low Extnt.But We Have An Efficient Judiciary In Place and The System Will take Care Of It.

3)These `Khans' Are Muslims ,ther Are heroes and Super Heroes And It Is Up To Them Whether To Caste All these In Their Films Or Not.let me Ask You Why Should They Sport All These When There Is No Theme In Their Films Demanding such Scenes?

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no it's an article dated dec 20, 2010, i forgot to add the date to the first post. let me fix that

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this article is an example that muslim indians are giving a good name to islam and holding up some of those peaceful verses in the quran.

the ones i've met, were very knowledgeable on islam and some have the quran memorized. i would think they would hold on to the quran and their religion even more when they are only 14% of the total population, to preserve their islamic subculture.
don't use bollywood as an example.

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Good news. :waves:

Re: WikiLeaks Cablegate: Indian Muslim population largely unattracted to extremism

wow this is great news

Re: WikiLeaks Cablegate: Indian Muslim population largely unattracted to extremism

I’m glad that Muslims, regardless of their country of origin are prospering. However, not everything is hunky dory.

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My dear Kashif, you can call me Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Jew, Christian, Muslim (I am Qadiani, btw) I am first and foremost an Indian. Just a few mins ago I got back home from a Christmas Carol Vocals & Community Party which was conducted by by the Hindu MP (Priya Dutt) of my constituency along with the Muslim MLA (Baba Siddiqui) and the Catholic (Kavita Rodricks) MLC of my constituency in a wonderful musical and light show on an open park (Dr. Norman Lewis Grounds) near my home. and this makes me proud to be myself.

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Pakistan is the only country where we are not considered to be Muslims (In India, I am free to be what I want to be) thats why I am so grateful that I was born in India. I am sorry to disappoint you, but I have tonnes of Sunni friends and none is bothered by me being Qadaini.

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^ignore his bigot comments.

oye kashif, you are no one to judge who is a muslim and who is not. stop the arrogant, prejudice comments.
to white people all pakistanis, indians, bangladeshis are brown as ever, as much as you might want to be seen as white and different, to white people you're as brown as any other south asian.

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^^ wow...

hilarious !!!

Re: WikiLeaks Cablegate: Indian Muslim population largely unattracted to extremism

kashifRathore: , 90% percent of Pakistani's are converts from Hinduism.
You may have been brainwashed since childhood - but the facts remain the facts.

Please have your DNA checked before making these wild claims ..

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Congress was right indeed. India has nothing to fear from Muslims. Its the crazy Hindu extremists they should worry about. :rolleyes:

Re: WikiLeaks Cablegate: Indian Muslim population largely unattracted to extremism

My dear Kashif, I travel through US & European airports about 3 to 4 times a year, and my blue Indian passport has always been an asset. It has given me a 10 year B1/B2 US visa issued in 2 days, a 10 year UK visa issued in 1 day, a 5 year Schengen visa issued in 2 days, a 10 year Canada visa issued in 5 days, a 5 year Singapore visa issued in 2 days and I can travel to most of Asia and many countries in Africa without a visa, and to top it all, I have never been put through secondary screening in any any US or European airport till date.