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By David Snyder
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 16, 2001; 2:39 PM

A Potomac gynecologist was charged early today with first-degree murder in the death of his wife, who was found dead yesterday in the home they shared and where he operated an office.

At a bond hearing this afternoon in Montgomery County District Court, Judge Marielsa A. Bernard ordered Zakaria Oweiss, 57, held without bond on charges.

Police allege that Oweiss killed Marianne Oweiss, 49, after a violent struggle yesterday morning, according to documents filed in Montgomery County District Court.

Zakaria Oweiss, a gynecologist who also has an office in Washington, told police yesterday his wife had “dishonored” the family by having an extramarital affair, said Montgomery County State’s Attorney Douglas F. Gansler (D).

Marianne Oweiss, a realtor, had returned from Egypt within 24 hours of her death, and her husband had gone briefly to Egypt, where he grew up, to investigate the affair, prosecutors said.

Oweiss’s lawyer, Paul T. Stein, argued in court that Oweiss should be released on bond because he posed no flight risk.

“He enjoys a very good reputation in the community,” Stein told reporters outside the courthouse. “He is stunned by all of this.”

Omar Zakaria Oweiss, the couple’s 20-year-old son, told police that he was asleep and heard his mother scream, and he then found her at the bottom of the basement steps in a pool of blood, according to court documents.

The couple has two sons – Omar and Amir, who is a student at Gonzaga College High School in Washington.

source: http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18918-2001Aug16.html

why would any man in his right frame of mind want to be a gynecologist? first of all women hesitate going to a male gyn. even the liberal gories i know dont want to go to a male gyn. add to it the fact that a mere slip of a finger can result in a big sue. put all these in the equation and u will find that a wanna be gynecologist is a real nutt case.

needless to say this event doesnt surprise me. watch out from these guys folks.

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dearest mundyaa,

aint' chya tryin' to be lil' ignorant with having that mentality of a male gynaecologist ?
it's a respected profession . get past the gender issue, the sexual side of it, and more of an real important life-aspect of it, will ya.

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On my list of "Professions I Would Rather Have", I am afraid that "Gynecologist" rates rather highly. It is somewhere between, "Quality Control Officer - Corona Extra" and "Victoria Secrets Catalogue Photographer".

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Some guys are totally obsessed by genitals and some wish that there were no genitals at all. Thank God there are some real men and women.

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Pristine,

I think what mundya was trying to point out is that the guy must have a "twisted mind" to be killing his wife and that "there must be something twisted about any man that selects gynecology as a profession".

I don't know if there is any truth to the matter. But what I do know is that I would never select a male ob-gyn specialist for myself.

Out of curiosity aphro....would you?

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In any case, if you look at the total number of gynaecologists in USA, you will find far more males than females. So I guess a lot of women patients do not think like you do.<<<

not necessarily true. just because there are plenty of male gyn doesnt mean women dont prefer a female one. this is one of those professions best suited for women in my opinion. maybe female posters here could shed some light.

Are we missing something here? Whats the link between this news and your question? Are you suggesting that all male gynaecologists are nuts and therefore they tend to kill their wives who are having affairs? <<<<

the male gyn element got me thinking about this. the fact that an educated MD would do a thing like this makes him a nutt case and a killer. but what im trying to understand is what will prompt a wannabe male doctor to chose gyn from a list of hundred different specialties. when there are plenty of things going against him by chosing this area. ive listed some in the first post. its very odd to say the least.

On my list of "Professions I Would Rather Have", I am afraid that "Gynecologist" rates rather highly. It is somewhere between, "Quality Control Officer - Corona Extra" and "Victoria Secrets Catalogue Photographer".<<<<

taking pictures of victoria secrets models is one thing buddy, looking at yeast infections daily is another.

get past the gender issue, the sexual side of it, and more of an real important life-aspect of it, will ya. <<<<

maybe u want to shed some light on this? all medical professions deal with the life aspect. u cant be blinded to the fact that gender is an issue since the patients are from one gender alone. their opinions should matter. the fact that many smaller cities in US might have any female gyn could force some women into getting themselves checked by a male gyn against their wishes. the fact that this is still a male dominated area should be of great concern in this day and age.... if more women prefer female gyn.

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There are hardly any male gaenocolgists in Pakistan. That should answer your question.

For your information, Gaeanocolgy and obstretics are linked quite closely so it does not all involved looking at genitalia. Delivering babies and other trauma are also part of the job.

As muslims, women should always see female doctors. However, I don't think this applies to non-muslims. If they don't want to see a male doctor then it is out of personal choice.

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To see a far more higher number of male gynaecologists compared to the female ones, obviously means that there is a demand for them. <<<

not really. There arent a lot of female gyn because males have dominated this area just like any other. women even non-Pakistani ones prefer female gyn. and it shouldnt be a surprise. http://www.jsonline.com/alive/news/may01/docs02050101.asp

muzna, thanks for clarifying. more women should be encouraged to take up professions like these which have an immediate need. im not too sure about the situation back home as far as percentages of male ob/gyn. hopefully much better than here? but then there are other problems like non-qualified old women who claim to be the best operators. o well.

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Just on a side note....

One of the top ob/gyn in Pakistan uptill two years ago was Dr Sabeeh _____, a male. Head of the society there and a professor in the subject. Teaches at FJMC even.

I have seen a male ob/gyn in Sargodha who is very popular there. Now sargodha is a small city in punjab and mostly rural.

I wonder who goes to these Doctors (never asked em).

Another thing, my friends sis once asked me to type her Masters stuff for her. Now she was doing specialization in ob/gyn. I was all ready to blush and go sharam say pani pani....but suprisingly I couldnt even make out one word she dictated. I guess its not totally about what you think it is.

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Cliftonites and Defense Dwellers.

http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/wink.gif

ducks behind a chair to avoid the barrage of ganday anday and timatar for committing the sin of generalization

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Hmmm…aphro said:

“aint’ chya tryin’ to be lil’ ignorant with having that mentality of a male gynaecologist ?
it’s a respected profession . get past the gender issue, the sexual side of it,”

and then Cactusboy said:

"On my list of “Professions I Would Rather Have”, I am afraid that “Gynecologist” rates rather highly. It is somewhere between, “Quality Control Officer - Corona Extra” and “Victoria Secrets Catalogue Photographer”.

So i guess by aphro’s definition, that makes you a bit of a lechy perv Cactusboy. Although I’m sure she wasn’t specifically referring to you

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would i go to a male gynaecologist muzna ?
well, first off ... that's quite a personal question to be asking here in the first place. i'm a bit suprised you asked me that first - and not mundyaa.
and not to mention, why would i want to give an answer in a palce like this ?
if one says 'yes' to it - people here who dont' even know you jump to the conclusion that you'd be a besharam woman if you did go to a male one. ugh who needs a judgement call like that.

when you go to a physician for a normal check up, do you quiver if he has to put his stethescope (sp??) to check if all is well for your seena ?
some womyn are very uncomfortable with that, others aren't. both women have their respected comfort levels.
but there's nothing awful if the woman is fine with it .... she accepts that the man is just doing his job. his profession, where he knows the line - big time.

it's sad as anything of the gynaecologist or physician etc if he himself takes his job more than for what it's meant to be. that's sick.

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Hey, the cap fits and I’m wearing it with pride

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I recall a thread some time back where people were supporting their belief that women should not go and work.

well then these people's wives, sisters, daughters and mothers have to be educated by men, physically examined by men etc. So until we get rid of the typical ganwaar mentality that women should not work, we will always have lesser representation of muslim women in such fields.

as far as the guy goes. I doubt that his choice of specialty has anything to do with his mental state. Next we will say that forensic examiners are sick *******s and thus all law enforcement agencies should keep an eye on them at all times.

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I agree with X-Factor.

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Similarly the top gynaecologists in Karachi are all mostly male. A close relative of mine had all her c-sections from the guy doctor, simply because he is the best there is. <<<<

medical profession is a male dominated area so no surprise that the best ones are also male. however, i find it odd that if women in Pakistan want to have female doctors then why arent they provided with one. if they are encouraged to take this field maybe there will a "best" female gyn/ob out there one day.

clearly the demand is for more female gynecologists and if the schools keep producing male ones.... then somethings got to be done about that. maybe limiting the number of seats for males so more and more female can come into the field.

Whatever the reason for lack of female doctors in this field, the fact remains, not all male gynaecologists are nuts. <<<

not all. but there are going to be ppl like pilot going looking for a free ride. esp when odds are against one to take this field one will have to be pretty determined/motivated to stick with this. and thats the reason u gotto watchout.

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[quote]
Originally posted by mundyaa:
but there are going to be ppl like pilot going looking for a free ride.
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Careful, young man. Only Mr. Xtreme is allowed to make personal comments about me.

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I would like to say my peace but X-Factor capped it nicely. What mundyaa is talking about is a symptom of various issues of that society. Go after them, get those fixed, and a solution will arise.

To Pristine point: I have seen ministers, as in religious ministers, committe murder, police officers committe murder, housewives drowing all their children, housewives microwaving their children, fathers killing their family, boyfriends smacking their girlfriend’s 2 yr. olds against a wall, maulvis seducing boys, jamatis hidding from INS by constantly being on the move from masjid to masjid, pilots crashing their planes full of passengers, uh…the list never ends. What one does is a state of mind not necessarily the affects of their professions.