Why Pakistan’s founder mr.Jinah’s entire family decided to stay in India?
Im not aware of that..could you cite where you got this information from?
- If truth is knowledge, knowledge is power, and power corrupts, then are all the liars in the world really the good guys?...*
Jinnnah's family is from Pakistan sindh province. During Britsh rule, he shifted is practice to bombay. Thats where he married and a had a daughter. His only fmaily link in India is his daughter dina whom he disowned for marrying a non muslim persian guy. Thats about the only family that had decided to stay in India because her husband was residing there.
All's well.., But I have not been to paradise...All's well,...No I have not ben Paradise...Watch the days go by...All's well...21st century dies...All's well...
I believe her daughter left India soon for some place else.
I read an article of her son, Jinnah's grandson, and I believe he resisdes in Australia-though don't quote me on this.
Jinnah's grandson is the prominent Indian industrialist Nali Wadia.
No cookies for ISI there. He went on record saying Partition was a mistake.
For your information, Muslims and other minorities are not required to show their patriotism or say things palatable to HIndus in India.
Doesn't Dina Wadia live in New York?
Jinnah's grandson's statements are very inconsequential since he's not even a Muslim as per my understanding.
don’t know. whatever their religion and wherever they live, one thing common to Jinnah’s descendents seems to be that they gave up on Pakistan!!
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They never were in Pakistan, they had nothing to do with Pakistan, they since the beginning had no efforts in builkding Pakistan, they are not Pakistani and hence by extreme common sense they never gave up anything for Pakistan.
However, indians muslims and a vast majority of others have given up on India.
"However, indians muslims and a vast majority of others have given up on India."
Now there's something that makes an awful lot of sense but obviously it will once again escape Andhra's reasoning skills.
“However, indians muslims and a vast majority of others have given up on India.”
Now there’s something that makes an awful lot of sense but obviously it will once again escape Andhra’s reasoning skills. <<
What Indian Muslim? The richest Indian ‘Premji’ of Wipro, a Muslim?
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I know it will comfort a lot of Pakistanis to feel Indian Muslims gave up on India, but such unfortunately is not the case.
Infact if outsiders don’t disturb them, Hindus and Muslims will live together happily as they have always done.
Now, why do Pakistanis have to feel that Muslims are second class citizens in India?
Because Jinnah told them so. That is the justification for creating Pakistan.
So where are Jinnah’s own kids and grand kids now?
Definitely not in the paradise he created!!
Andhra, what u nuts? Who told you that we Pakistanis consider Indian Muslims as second class in India? And why would we think over that?
Get a life and stop being sick ! How come you link this topic to "ISI"?
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*His only fmaily link in India is his daughter dina whom he disowned for marrying a non muslim persian guy. *
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How hypocratic ! - He himself married a parsee woman - and it was okay but it was not okay for his daughter marrying a parsee.
AK
She became a Muslim and was named Maryam if I remember correctly. Though her commitment to Islam was often in question but then again so was Jinnah's.
I suggest you either learn the subject-matter before opening your mouth or not bother commenting on topics you have limited knowledge of.
That’s what you are taught in your schools - Here is an article Written by none other but Akbar Ahmad (I am sure you know who he is)
http://www.pakistanlink.com/Letters/2002/Jan/04/15.html
“…And Jinnah deeply loved his wife, Ruttie, who was a non-Muslim (and half his age), and his only child, Dina, who, as a young woman, refused to marry a Muslim. The women in Jinnah’s family thus created problems for those who wished to portray Jinnah as a straightforward religious extremist…”
AK
btw...Fatima Jinnah..his sister came along to Pakistan with him...
- If truth is knowledge, knowledge is power, and power corrupts, then are all the liars in the world really the good guys?...*
Pakistan long ago, started on a different 'Islamic' path under the stewardship of Zia-Ul-Haq.
Pakistanis have a well established track record of trashing their leaders once they are dead. Like Bhutto, Zia, Nawaz Sharif etc.,
So you can expect Jinnah's turn to come sooner or later.
I think even they will find Jinnah a hard nut to trash.
He didn't live too long for one thing. And while he lived, his personal integrity was legendary as was his ego!!
Andhra
Instead of spending time on well fed ,healthy ,employed & prosperous Pakistani who are so thank to Jinnah no matter what her Awaara daughter like million awara hindians do in mumbai PLEASE GO & COMFORT THE 1st class citizen of India in Gujrat & rest of the India …Dying for the 2nd time …as if they were not half naked half fed & half clothed & half dead from the beginning Hindus are killing them for no fault of there except that they are muslims
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barque(bijli) yoon akadti hai apne karname pe ke
jaise phir naya hum aashiyaan bana nahi sakte
Andhra,& your buddies Infoman,Hindian brigade ,dont have any tears left after crocopdiles tear for imaginary Minorities of Pakistan
Death Toll in India Strife at 295
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Fri Mar 1,12:38 PM ET
By HARISH DESAI, Associated Press Writer
AHMADABAD, India (AP) - Armed Hindus swept into a tiny village Friday, forced Muslims into their homes and then set fire to the houses, killing at least 30. Three days of Hindu-Muslim violence have left nearly 300 people dead.
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The attackers in Pandarvada, a hamlet of 50 families in western India’s Gujarat state, came from a neighboring district, officials said. An official in Gujarat, speaking on condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press that the victims were Muslim and the attackers Hindu.
“We know of 30 deaths so far, it could be higher than that,” Jayanti Ravi, the district administrator.
Elsewhere in Gujarat, Hindus waving swords and sticks burned buildings and attacked Muslims in more than 30 towns in the second day of rioting after a deadly attack by Muslims on a train carrying Hindu nationalists.
Before dawn, several hundred Hindus set fire to homes in a Muslim shantytown in Ahmadabad, the state’s commercial center, trapping residents asleep inside. Sixty-five people in the homes were killed, including eight children, Deputy Police Commissioner P.B. Gondya said.
The military deployed 900 soldiers in Ahmadabad, a city of 3.5 million, and police were ordered to shoot rioters and arsonists on sight. Police said 1,200 people had been arrested since Thursday.
However, journalists saw many soldiers sitting in trucks watching as Hindu crowds shouted death threats across streets to cowering Muslims, while a few policemen stood between them.
One Muslim woman clung to a news photographer’s leg, begging him not to leave the scene for fear that she would be killed.
The train attack in Godhra killed 58 people, touching off rioting that has left 237 dead — the worst violence between Hindus and Muslims in a nearly decade in this country of 1 billion people. Officials said Friday that Muslims had begun some counterattacks, but they would not break down the death toll into Muslims and Hindus.
Fears that the violence would quickly spread elsewhere in the country, however, were eased. A nationwide strike called Friday by Hindu nationalists to protest the train attack saw little participation.
Despite a few incidents elsewhere, violence was mostly limited to Gujarat, the home state of Mahatma Gandhi, who struggled for Hindu-Muslim reconciliation amid riots that killed nearly 1 million people after independence in 1947.
Nine people were killed Friday when police opened fire on rioters, said State Minister I.K. Jadeja. Six of those died when police shot at Muslims and Hindus tossing homemade bombs at one another near a mosque in the suburb of Bapunagar. Seventy people were wounded in that shooting, and police did not specify the religion of the casualties.
“Since this morning, the retaliation (by Muslims against Hindus) has started,” Deputy Police Commissioner R.J. Savani said. “It has now turned to group clashes.”
One policeman was killed by rioters, Jadeja said. Press Trust of India (news - web sites) said 16 people had been killed by police since rioting began.
Despite curfews, groups of young Hindu men blockaded roads, searched cars for Muslims and set fire to shops and homes. Survivors ventured out to collect their dead when the sun rose.
Some Muslim groups called for direct federal rule in the state. People streamed into hospitals, mostly for treatment of stab wounds, but also just for safety.
Gujarat’s chief minister, Narendra Modi, who belongs to the ruling Hindu nationalist party, wouldn’t answer questions at a news conference about why the army was not more active. He said only that the soldiers were doing what the police wanted.
His government had supported a call by Hindu nationalists for a strike on Thursday, the first day of rioting. In cities around India, few abided by the nationwide strike call Friday.
There was stone-throwing in Bombay, India’s financial capital in a state bordering Gujarat. A train was derailed when Hindu activists placed concrete blocks across the tracks in a northeastern Bombay suburb. No injuries were reported. Police stopped Hindu activists from forcing their way into a mosque in northern Amritsar and blocking trains in eastern Calcutta. Muslims attacked police vehicles and a Hindu shrine in southern Hyderabad.
Ahmadabad police commissioner, P.C. Pandey, said that after the army deployment in Ahmadabad, “we hope the situation will improve now.”
Police said 63 people had been arrested on charges of murder and attempted murder for the train attack in the small town of Godhra.
Most of the victims of Wednesday’s train attack were activists from the World Hindu Council, which plans build a temple to the god Rama on the site of a mosque destroyed in 1992 by Hindu nationalists in the northern town of Ayodhya.
Tensions had been growing between Muslims and the activists, who frequently used the train route to go back and forth between Ahmadabad and Ayodhya.
The World Hindu Council offered Friday to delay its March 15 deadline for building the temple if the government guarantees they can construct it later.
The destruction of the mosque by Hindus sparked nationwide riots that killed 2,000 people.
This week’s violence is believed to be the worst Hindu-Muslim fighting since 1993 riots in Bombay — also related to the destruction of the mosque in Ayodhya — killed at
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jaise phir naya hum aashiyaan bana nahi sakte
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How hypocratic ! - He himself married a parsee woman - and it was okay but it was not okay for his daughter marrying a parsee.
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I think you better look up the meaning of hyppocrit in the dictionary dude. Jinnah wasa muslim male and as such he could marry a parsee girl, but his daughter according to the islamic laws cannot marry a non muslim guy whatso ever. He asked her if he was wiling to convert to Islam. He told dina this befre her marriage and of the consequences she would face given her choice. She chose whatever was more important to her, end of story.
Only a little bit of common sense is needed to understand human relations.