It seems they have a proclaimed hate for eductaion and that’s why they act like uncivilized goons.
Four more schools, govt offices burnt -DAWN - Top Stories; August 05, 2008
What the administration is doing to prevent these `Talibans?'Infact over the last two weeks many schools have been burnt down by these terrorists.
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Why? Cuz they know only education will reveal who they really are, just like feudal lords resist schools in their areas. They want to harass/terrorize people.
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^ True and well said. But why the administration is not giving proper cover ?
^ True and well said. But why the administration is not giving proper cover ?
Administration is nicompoop, they are unable to provide law and order in the cities/areas they supposedly "control", what to expect of areas that are not-so-controlled. Administration will sleep until someone declares their control (take control of police station and other offices) then they'll rush with some patakhay.
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Then the central government has to change its policy there.
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Question is does the central government wants to change its policy? They are just trying their best to make things worst in the country.
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^ But why?You have an elected government and it should go according to peopl's wish.Right?
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Yaar, loosing these schools does not impose any change in credibility. Anyone graduating from these schools cannot even get position for Chaprasi. Not that I am saying their actions should go unpunished but that we are not sustaining a big loss here if that is what people think.
Yaar, loosing these schools does not impose any change in credibility. Anyone graduating from these schools cannot even get position for Chaprasi. Not that I am saying their actions should go unpunished but that we are not sustaining a big loss here if that is what people think.
I agree, we might not get a rocket scientist out of these schools, but it has several effects. People are losing "opportunity", increasing number of illiteracy, chaos, loss of confidence, may result in job-less-ness in the area etc. Besides, its a loss of property as minimal and people terrorized.
I agree, we might not get a rocket scientist out of these schools, but it has several effects. People are losing "opportunity", increasing number of illiteracy, chaos, loss of confidence, may result in job-less-ness in the area etc. Besides, its a loss of property as minimal and people terrorized.
The emboldened in the only thing I agree with. Literacy also has standards. Everyone passing from grade 6 and then ploughing the fields should not be considered literate. If the establishment was ever serious about educating people in those regions the state of the schools would be much different and so would be the occupations of people living there.
the reality is that swaves of the army and intelligence establishment AND population (not majority, but enough) support this radical form of islam. the taliban are nothing without this backing, these people who are let my ideas of ideological state formation.
taliban are scum, but if government is not moving against them then they must suffer the consequences. why arent they forcing taliban into a hole, crushing them?
there is lack of political will!
pakistan will (sadly) have an islamist revolution one tehsil at a time unless someone wakes up and slaps those bearded ******** we all hate so much.
the vast majority of the population within pakistan lives within punjab and sindh - punjab and sindh especially the rural areas are mostly Barelvi - Barelvis do not support the taliban. then up to 20-30% of the punjab sindh population could even be shia - you know how they stand with the taliban.
rural punjabis and sindhis have nothig in common with the taliban culturally and practise wise.
urban punjabis and sindhis could have a more islamic influence but these people are generally educated and their views do not support the talibans views of locking women up at home, discouraging education for all esp women, banning western clothes, forcing people to keep beards, and forcing women to wear face covers.
going on to the baloch belt - the baloch as a whole are more secular and they do not and wont allow religion to interfere with politics - the mullah's place is within the mosque only. in balochistan the zikris and sunnis live in peace and baloch natioalists, secularists and writers view them as equals - while in the rest of pakistan zikris could be seen as heretics and persecuted.
the norrth of balochistan is pashtun - even thoug that is very close to kandahar and theres some taliban activity there i dont think theres any record of them trying to take over, ban schools or anything like that. the main reason being the kinship system being strong has kept them out. in FATA - the system collapsed allowing the taliban to take over. in reality te balochistan pashtuns are more in line with taliban culture and more in line with pashtun culture - and the latter winning the struggle.
in the northern areas - the population is split ismaili, sunni, shia - there have been sunni shia clashes but so far no attempt for taliban to interfere - theywill be less welcome and less camouflaged out of the pashtun belt.
in NWFP mostly adults who voted - which was about 40% f the local ppulation - voted against religious parties. i doubt the remaining 60% support taliban type iislamic system. culturally nwfp is far too progressive for the taliban system towork - people are educated more than in afghanistan, people have more cosmpolitan lifestyles than afghanistan. the taliban system could only work in a country which was at the bottom of the rung. nwfp is a conservative society but theres no way the people would want to see a taliban take over as it would bring chaos in the form of uncle sam and its war machine.
even the more islamic people within nwfp are more progressive than the taliban lot.
its hard to say why the talibancan create such havoc in nwfp but one thing is clear - the security forces are not going after them with a full heart. it does appear as if the militants are givenmore than enough time to disappear. i do believe if the army wanted to it oculd have crushed themby now.
theres nothing wrong with having a n islamist revolution - in fact that could be better for us but the taliban brand of islam contradicts islam and that is the brand we want to see flushed out of pakistan.
the reality is that swaves of the army and intelligence establishment AND population (not majority, but enough) support this radical form of islam. the taliban are nothing without this backing, these people who are let my ideas of ideological state formation.
taliban are scum, but if government is not moving against them then they must suffer the consequences. why arent they forcing taliban into a hole, crushing them?
there is lack of political will!
pakistan will (sadly) have an islamist revolution one tehsil at a time unless someone wakes up and slaps those bearded ******** we all hate so much.
The emboldened in the only thing I agree with. Literacy also has standards. Everyone passing from grade 6 and then ploughing the fields should not be considered literate. If the establishment was ever serious about educating people in those regions the state of the schools would be much different and so would be the occupations of people living there.
Sorry to tell you that unlike in your U.S,Indian subcontinent schools do not make the entire students scientists or doctors but the social impact is so high that some have to go to their fields either to look after their vast lands or to assist their parents or themselves to find their livelyhoods.
It's not proper to say that one passed grade6 went to field can not be considered literate.
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Swat militants’ onslaught on girls schools continues -DAWN - Top Stories; August 06, 2008
Nonsense elements strike again
if they fail to resist islamism, they deserve what they get.
government elements and ISI have slept with these mullah pigs for too long.
i have lost all hope for pakistan. let is be an islamist cesspit.
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Dozens of Schools have been burnt down............................
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Gosh..when will deze ppl learn..r we really living in da 21st century...even military operation aint doing nything to teach em a lesson..wht else would it take man..i hate em pro talibans or whteva.
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They can't do basic arithmetic but can recited Quran in reverse while standing upside down in a foot of water.
When there is the great promise of martyrdom and opium who needs schools
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^hahahahah yes yes..funny reply.
the vast majority of the population within pakistan lives within punjab and sindh - punjab and sindh especially the rural areas are mostly Barelvi - Barelvis do not support the taliban. then up to 20-30% of the punjab sindh population could even be shia - you know how they stand with the taliban.
rural punjabis and sindhis have nothig in common with the taliban culturally and practise wise.
urban punjabis and sindhis could have a more islamic influence but these people are generally educated and their views do not support the talibans views of locking women up at home, discouraging education for all esp women, banning western clothes, forcing people to keep beards, and forcing women to wear face covers.
going on to the baloch belt - the baloch as a whole are more secular and they do not and wont allow religion to interfere with politics - the mullah's place is within the mosque only. in balochistan the zikris and sunnis live in peace and baloch natioalists, secularists and writers view them as equals - while in the rest of pakistan zikris could be seen as heretics and persecuted.
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Agree with most of what you wrote.............
Can you explain who and What are these "zikris" ?
Thanks!