Why There is Crack in KAABA WALL??

[Ibn_Sadique]

@Ma_Mooli

^ Thats the thing, it doesnt take anything away from the Imam (as), but it does show his maqaam as much higher than what the average ahl sunnah deny him (as). He was a divinely chosen personality rather than elected in secrecy. his birth is a historical related fact in both sources, so either people are ignorant or outright deniers…and that is the the sad thing really.

Sister Ma Mooli – That’s the basic difference – Status of Imam Ali (ra) – To Sunnis Shias love Imam Ali (ra) a lot and take to extreme and to Shias the Sunnis claim to Love him but to his rightful status.

@Ma_Mooli

Bro Ibn Sadique; I ddint say haters, i said deniers of his true rights/status. I think that pretty much covers all. I dont think even nasibis hate, belittle maybe, but not hate.

Sister I didn’t say that you used the word HATE – In fact you circumvented it – But Imam Ali (ra) himself has used the word HATE and hate is a very strong word. And we all know that he was very precise with his words.

and he who hates me too much and the hatred takes him away from rightfulness

@Ma_Mooli

No, not really. These miracles are not rare, and most lileky they do occur at the Prophet (saw) brithplace, we’d know though if the birth place hadnt been razed to the ground, ..his grave on the other hand, possibly has similiar events, its just not too obvious.
so unless you believe miracles are a thing of the past, its not really that rare at all. Go to syria, mashad, qum, kerbala, these things do happen. You can only remain a sceptic unless you’ve been there yourself.

Not much problem with above – Just that Allah (swt) chose to manifest the ‘miracle’ annually for Imam Ali (ra) and that of the Prophet (saw) sort of hidden – even if the birth place has been razed the miracle would have been there for all to see and be ‘proud of’.

Enough said by me on this…