Why the Taliban do what they do!

Many Muslims claim the Taliban are not following “true Islam”. But for one reason or another its seems the Taliban and their likes continue acting and behaving this way. Muslims tell the world they are not true Islam. Yet why do they insist and continue to behave like this?

This is why

On the authority of Abdullah ibn Abbas that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, **“If you find anybody committing the act of the People of Lot (i.e. sodomy), then kill the one doing it and the one with whom it is done.”**This hadith is recorded by Imam Ahmad, Imam Abu Dawud, and Imam At-Tirmidhi among others.

Narrated Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri: When the tribe of Bani Quraiza was ready to accept Sad’s judgment, Allah’s Apostle sent for Sad who was near to him. Sad came, riding a donkey and when he came near, Allah’s Apostle said (to the Ansar), “Stand up for your leader.”** Then Sad came and sat beside Allah’s Apostle who said to him. “These people are ready to accept your judgment.” Sad said, “I give the judgment that their warriors should be killed and their children and women should be taken as prisoners.” The Prophet then remarked, “O Sad! You have judged amongst them with (or similar to) the judgment of the King Allah.”** Bukhari

Narrated Aisha: No woman of Banu Qurayzah was killed except one. She was with me, talking and laughing on her back and belly (extremely), while the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) was killing her people with the swords. Suddenly a man called her name: Where is so-and-so? She said: I I asked: What is the matter with you? She said: I did a new act. She said: The man took her and beheaded her. She said: I will not forget that she was laughing extremely although she knew that she would be killed. Abu Dawood

:Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi: I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair. Abu Dawood

Narrated Ibn Umar: Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again). He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa, the tribe of Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina Bukhari

“Awf ibn Malik reported that the Prophet (Peace be upon him) said, ‘The Jews split into 71 sects: one will enter Paradise and 70 will enter Hell. The Christians split into 72 sects: 71 will enter Hell and one will enter Paradise. By Him in Whose hand is my soul, my Ummah will split into 73 sects: one will enter Paradise and 72 will enter Hell.’ Someone asked, ‘O Messenger ofAllah (Peace be upon him), who will they be?’ He replied, ‘The main body of the Muslims (al-Jama’ah).’ Awf ibn Malik is the only one who reported this Hadith, and its isnad is acceptable.” And in another version of this Hadith the Prophet (Peace be upon him) goes onto say that the saved sect, “…Are those who follow my and my Sahaba’s path” (Tirmidhi, vol. 2, pg. 89)

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached** Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’ I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him**. Bukhari

Allah’s Apostle sent us in a mission (i.e. am army-unit) and said, “If you find so-and-so and so-and-so, burn both of them with fire.” When we intended to depart, Allah’s Apostle said, "I have ordered you to burn so-and-so and so-and-so, and it is none but Allah Who punishes with fire, so, if you find them, kill them." Bukhari

Allah’s Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.” Bukhari

Abu Musa said, “I came to the Prophet along with two men (from the tribe) of Ash’ariyin, one on my right and the other on my left, while Allah’s Apostle was brushing his teeth (with a Siwak ), and both men asked him for some employment. The Prophet said, ‘O Abu Musa (O ‘Abdullah bin Qais!).’ I said, ‘By Him Who sent you with the Truth, these two men did not tell me what was in their hearts and I did not feel (realize) that they were seeking employment.’ As if I were looking now at his Siwak being drawn to a corner under his lips, and he said, ‘We never (or, we do not) appoint for our affairs anyone who seeks to be employed. But O Abu Musa! (or ‘Abdullah bin Qais!) Go to Yemen.’” The Prophet then sent Mu’adh bin Jabal after him and when Mu’adh reached him, he spread out a cushion for him and requested him to get down (and sit on the cushion). Behold: There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu’adh asked, “Who is this (man)?” Abu Muisa said, “He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.” Then Abu Muisa requested Mu’adh to sit down but Mu’adh said, “I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, “Then we discussed the night prayers and one of us said, ‘I pray and sleep, and I hope that Allah will reward me for my sleep as well as for my prayers.’” Bukhari

Some people from the tribe of ‘Ukl came to the Prophet and embraced Islam. The climate of Medina did not suit them, so the Prophet ordered them to go to the (herd of milch) camels of charity and to drink, their milk and urine (as a medicine). They did so, and after they had recovered from their ailment (became healthy) they turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away. The Prophet sent (some people) in their pursuit and so they were (caught and) brought, and the Prophets ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and that their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they die.

Imam Shafi, may Allah have mercy upon him, said the Imam [supreme leader of the Muslims] is given the choice of killing the prisoners, showing them mercy, ransoming them or keeping them in bondage. This issue has been confirmed and has been proven in our book ‘Al Ahkam.’ (Tafsir of the Qur’an by Ibn Kathir [1])

According to the Qur’an a woman who has been captured by force falls in the category of a slave girl (kaniz). And because the Qur’an confines the use of force to the fighting (qital) in the way of God, thus according to the Qur’an a slave girl is that woman who falls in the hands of Muslims as a prisoner during the course of war waged in the way of God. (Maulana Maududi, Rasa’il wa Masa’il 3rd edition, Vol. III, p.102).

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: Ikrimah reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas, saying: I** think the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: When one of you prays without a sutrah, a dog, an ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a woman cut off his prayer,** but it will suffice if they pass in front of him at a distance of over a stone’s throw. ( Bukhari )

'Umar b. Muhammad b. Zaid reported that he heard his father narrating from Ibn 'Umar that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) had said**. If bad luck is a fact, then it is in the horse, the woman and the house.** (Bukhari)

This is why they behave like this. Let no one make you believe they are not following Sunni tey are following hadiths to the teeth. Thats why no Muslim scholars can tell them “what you are doing is against Islam!”. Thats why even though there are tons of Sheikhs in Pakistan and tons of Sufi sheikhs nobody can stop them. because they all follow the same Islam.

These hadith are against everything the Quran stands for and present an image of the prophet of a ruler, a warrior, a conquerer and an executioner. This, even though the Quran says:


16:82 **But if they turn away from you, your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message **.

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides Him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you a guardian over them.

4:79-80 Say:'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. **Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper." **

17:53-54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner. Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe … Hence, We have not sent you with power to determine their Faith.

88:21 22; And so,exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

42:6 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. **Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach **

Two radically different Islam’s with radically different prophets!


As for such who do not fight you on account of faith, or drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to deal with them with equity, for God loves those who act equitably. God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of faith and drive you forth from your homelands or aid in driving you forth. As for those from among you who turn towards them for alliance, it is they who are wrongdoers. 60:8-9

Permission (to fight) is given to those against whom war is being wrongfully waged, and verily, God has indeed the power to aid them. Those who have been driven from their homelands in defiance of right for no other reason than their saying, �Our Lord is God.� 22:39-40

Quran is peace!

Re: Why the Taliban do what they do!

Frankly i do not know in which world do you live. The people whom you are trying to "teach" know a lot more than you.

Firstly, each Hadith has to be taken in context, if a person has waged war and comitted a war crime then he/she will be punished according to the act they comitted. You have just atken the Ahadith out of context.

As for killing Bani Quraizah, they had waged war against muslims and they accepted that they wanted to be tried according to law of Torah, and they got the punishment prescribed in Torah.

And its utterly foul of you to say that no sufi or no sunni scholar can say that TAliban are doing things against Islam. Rather ALL scholars and sufis in Pakistan have said taht what they are doing is against Islam. Show me ONE scholar who has said that what Taliban are doing is Islam.

ATleast be honest when you discuss. Its shameful that you are trying to coem up as promoter of Holy Book and showing such intellectual and factual dishonesty.

Yes brother such type of people always put Hadiths and Quran out of context to prove their satanic DESIRES and WISHES.

Man, you really need to see a psychotherapist sheikh.

Re: Why the Taliban do what they do!

I am so Glad that all these wars are preserved in Seerah of Nabi Paak,thanks for refreshing our memories
two other important examples which come to mind bigmo missed are
assasination of asma bint marwan laeen paleed the poetess who was killed by a sahabi

and assasination of Ibn an-Nawwahah by Qarazah b ka'b r.a

God Bless Muhammad whose seerah is so well preserved, no matter how hard they try these people wont take out Muhammad from Islam.

The hadiths may be talking about a Muhammad but not the Muhammad of the Quran. The Muhammad of the Quran was a preacher and a warner and a mercy for mankind and not some warlord and executioner. Killing prisoners is one of the ugliest thing a person can do and this is what the Taliban and Al Qaeda does and now we know why.

This is what the Muhamamd of the Quran did to prisoners*:*

6..8 And they feed, for the love of Allah, the indigent, the orphan, and the captive,-

At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them,** bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom**: 47.4

8.67-70. It is not fitting for an apostle that he should have prisoners of war until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. Ye look for the temporal goods of this world; but Allah looketh to the Hereafter: And Allah is Exalted in might, Wise. Had it not been for a previous ordainment from Allah, a severe penalty would have reached you for the (ransom) that ye took. But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah. for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. O Messenger. say to those who are captives in your hands: "If Allah findeth any good in your hearts, He will give you something better than what has been taken from you, and He will forgive you: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful

16:82 But if they turn away from you, your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message.

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides Him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you a guardian over them.

4:79-80 Say:'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

17:53-54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner. Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you with power to determine their Faith.

88:21 22; And so,exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

42:6 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach


Thats the Muhammad of the Quran!

Re: Why the Taliban do what they do!

yo man those people chose to abide by the decision of hazrat Sa'ad. Firstly the judgement of Hazrat Sa'ad was based upon their own scriptures in accordance with meesaaq-e-madina. Secondly, if they had chosen the judgement of the Holy Prophet(saw), he being the rahmat-ul-aalameen would have forgiven them.

there are numerous examples of Muhammad of Hadith forving former enemies as well , you will not mention them as it does not suit your agenda.
But sometimes it was neccesary to shed blood and thats exactly what the Prophet did .....

bhaais kay agay been pajanay ka koi faida nahin ,....he knows this incident just as well as we do

Re: Why the Taliban do what they do!

o heretic play this Qur'an and hadith game on those who have ill heart like yourself. The fact that you are playing this game shows how low you have fallen. So you reject these ahadith because they do not please your other kuffaar brotherns. Why do you not reject the ayaat which says beat your wive(s) and kill the infidels wherever you find them and smeck their necks and it is not suitable for the Prophet to have prisoners of war rather he should have killed them? Why the double standards o heretic? You have already apostated; so, what difference would it make to you whether hadith or the Qur'an? According to your corrupt ideology and doctrine Islam itself is evil. Why not go to some kafir website and write up your ex-Muslim story!? Islam and Muslims do not need people like you.

may Allah Ta'ala give you what you deserve, ameen!

Re: Why the Taliban do what they do!

First of all to answer the main thread topic ..

Why the Taliban? ... The simple answer is that the Taliban identity has become so powerful that masqueraders who are tribal gangsters have cashed in on it and claim the title for themselves, making it appear that the Talban as an ideology is corrupt and oppressive and in turn provide a magnifying glass to the West to pick them out and defame Islam as a result. I do not believe the real Taliban were anything like the claimants we see today.

As for justfication for becoming a Koranist ... this is laughable ... that all the Taliban summate to be a result of the hadith listed out in the pilot post.

Well said! I am glad to see we have some independent thinkers on this board.

Assalamalikum wr wb Psyah.

Re: Why the Taliban do what they do!

The Taliban are psycho and twisted. Why is there even a remote dispute about this well known FACT? Ok, you know what, as I need money right now, I'll charge you 100 dollars to do some psychoanalysis on anyone who thinks the Taliban are right.

Ok, lets make that 200 dollars per session, because you know what. All y'all are crazy.