Andhra & Munda: It's simply a matter of
"qatraa qatraa daryaa" philosophy. I never once said that India eceonomy or Bollywood for that matter wud go bankrupt just becuase a few of us stopped watching thr movies. Please evn I am not THAT naive!! Ofcourse Bollywood will survive & so will t/ Indian Economy (plsss!!) .
This is neithr personal nor religious (I'm not evn going to bring GOD into this discussion!). Simply ONE Small Step. That's all.
It is t/ same principle which t/ Middle East has adopted w/ Israel. I think ME is also rexaming it's policy w/ t/ U.S.that if you do business w/ Israel, dont bother w/ us! It was because of this Midd Eastern policy that t/ US evn considered t/ so called "Peace Talks w/ Palestine. B4 t/ Gulf War, ME used to do a lot of business w/ Europe but not w/ US & that was a major thorn for t/ US SInce Arabs are big spenders. You mihght say that I 'm getting off base here, but it's t/ same principle . That's all.
( Arab Israel was used simply as an example. Didnt want to go into detail on purpose cuz THEN it wud have irrelavent!)
i agree with ur qatra qatra philosophy…it’s a start, yes…but isn’t it true @ the same time that a “hidden” enemy is worse than an open one?? i’d rather take care of the that first…
Thanx Munda for @ least understanding my point of view.
I know I get very jazbaatii when it comes to Indian movies, maybe cuz I'm simply sick of t/ fact that almost evry single Pakistani I know is so obsessed w/ T/ Indian movies & it's actors! Believe me I'm considered quite backward cuz I dont keep up w/ t/ latest Indian Hero/ heroine!
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Originally posted by FunkyDesi:
**Thanx Munda for @ least understanding my point of view.
I know I get very jazbaatii when it comes to Indian movies, maybe cuz I'm simply sick of t/ fact that almost evry single Pakistani I know is so obsessed w/ T/ Indian movies & it's actors! Believe me I'm considered quite backward cuz I dont keep up w/ t/ latest Indian Hero/ heroine! **
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it's all good FunkyDesi...
n btw, ppl who think u r backwards just cuz u r not uptodate with the info on the latest indian actors/actoresess, well, all i'm going to say is they are very superficial...not really worth wasting ur time on.
newayz...carry on the discussion ppl...c, it's not that hard to have a conversation with someone without taking it personally.
and again, hopefully i won't have to close this thread cuz of the actions of a few members.
**~* It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow... ~*
nice warning de..si..Mu..Nd..a,
I guess i spelled your name correctly…
btw nice warning in the end…and why do u think hopefully, u won’t have to close the thread coz of some members…do u mean to say that nobody’s thread was closed coz of other member or what. what was wrong in nobody’s thread…u didn’t answer that…
byeee sweety…don’t u ever call me sweetheart again…or I deserve the right to defend myself…
well I think other reasons were quite nicely explained by Nobody…and I’ll just add to it, it is that each movie u buy or watch is a bullet itself in a Kashmiri body…and at least that should not be acceptable to a proud Pakistani…I’ll come with other points soon…
as for the last 2 threads, did i EVER say ANYWHERE that i closed the thread due to other members, and that Nobody’s behaviour was not part of the reason i closed the thread?? so don’t assume things u don’t know…and i don’t need to give an explaination to u, in any case, since u insist so much, and u most know, it was part both (other members as well as Nobody).
as far as “sweetheart” is concerned, well, if i can be a “desigunda”, then u r the opposite…a sweetheart…didn’t think u’d take offence to it
Thanks to hewolf, funky, and other members whoever participated in this conversation,I will also thanks to desimunda for being polite apart from (get checked your eyes) I think that is an abusive thing as well but I am sure you won't close this thread because of your own abuse to someone. I believe you should have given a warning before you close that thread, I will still like to know if you can quote what exactly was so abusive you had to close the thread. Because I would not like anybody closing my thread. Dreamweaver you said what will that make difference if few of us stop watching Indian movies, brother or sister that makes a great deal of difference, first of all those bullets are been made, then what we putting in our generation's mind, our Kharet is going in deep down the earth, we don't even feel that Salman Khan or Sharukh khan is fighting against Kashmiri and the way they present in their movies, we feel more for HERO rather than for a Mujahid, if your brother or uncle or anybody would have died their and you watching that movie then you can really feel the pain, unless you consider Kashmiries as your brother and sisters you will never know the real feeling. I am one of you, so dont think I am criticizing you or anything. I was big fan of Indian movies but when I thought about it, I decided if I have to stop then full stop no if no but's and I did now and I have promised I will never watch any Indian movies again and if strong fan like me can stop I want to start this mission myself and I believe it will go long way. Some people have said the obsession of Pakistani people with Indian movies, you are damn right. I hate it now, hopefully we should demolish this obsession. Credit goes to desimunda as well being an indian he has patience to listen to us. We should appreciate that too rather then arguing all the time. I have lots of indian friends here too, nice people, we have indian hindu playing for Pakitan cricket team now(which I really liked, we give rights to minorities) , so the understanding is that our battel is with Indian Govt not with Indian public. God bless you all whoever trying to promote my thoughts, I hope you can start this battel as an individual as well.
yes…this thread is going on smoothly so far, and i’d like to c the discussion go on in the same manner…as for my “abuse”, well, i’ve said it once and i’ll say it again: i do whatever it takes to get the point across…and i’m sure u can tell, people skills is not a strong point.
as for quoting the reason why i closed the thread, sorry dude, it’s not possible now…like i said, i deleted the posts b4 i closed the thread…no way of recovering that…tough luck…and once again i am saying this: as long as the ppl participating in this discussion follow gupshup policies, it’s all good.
last but not least, what makes u think i am an indian?? sorry to burst ur bubble, i am a pakistani…previously due to my actions i have been labelled as a male chauvinist, and at other times as a feminist…oh well…just another addition to the list
Thanks for directly participating as well, but no matter who you are, its the way a person behaves you can judge them, just for my information are u the main organizer of this page? I don't even know you but the way you speaking "tough luck", "to get my poing across I will say it again", these things doesn't make a person sound really nice is it? and I only asked politely to gather what was abusive in that thread. I am here and I can help you keep things calm and cool, because we are having this opportunity with maybe your efforts to speak to muslim brothers and sisters, so please get to know people first and then say these things. You wont see any abusive things in my any of post and personally I don't like abusive things. RESPECT is the most important thing in this world. bye for now
as for being the main organizer of this page, being the moderator of Shor Sharaba, i am responsible for every single post in every single page of every single thread of this forum.
hope that answers ur questions.
~ It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow… ~
I faill to see what all the fuss is about!! These movies all have a boring repetative script which always seems to resonate from one film to another. You would have to be deformed physically in some way to be addicted to them.
i've given enuf warnings...ppl who fail to understand, u should know that from this moment forth, even for this thread, there is a zero tolerence...i think i've answered enuf questions...now u ppl can either carry on with ur discussion, or carry on whining bout why i closed the previous threads, and pay the price. Period.
**~* It is difficult to say what is impossible, for the dream of yesterday is the hope of today and the reality of tomorrow... ~*
[This message has been edited by DeSiMuNdA (edited December 02, 2000).]
Amryata Sen, writing out of his specific topic of expertise, has touched on the differences between cultural dependance and cultural exchange. The difference, he illustrates, can be seen in reading athe time or noting the date on a calendar. A watch contains Arabic numerals, while a calendar is set to the Gregorian system. Yet, do we say that the the watch is an eastern device, or that the calender is exclusively European? No.
On the other hand, I do not agree with cultural dependence. This, one can argue, can bee seen with the so called "MTV generation" (what an aweful phrase). It can also be arguable explained that people need to depend on other cultures because they do not find enough to grip on in thier own.
Now, to the point. There is nothing wrong with watching Indian movies. The only real reason I can gather from the drivel above me here is that Indian movie = Indian = bad = must had. Pityful logic.
I watch Indain movies becuase they are entertaining. I would rather watch Sanjay Dutt portray a chracter falling into the depths of the Bombay underwold in Vastaav (brilliant, I do reccomend) that watching pimply Saad gyrating to some very heavily busted Resham, while ducking a hail of grandes to save the US president from the evil desings of A.B. Vajpayee. Is this cultural dependance? No. It's just me out looking to spend a few hours without breaking the law. Is it that bad. No.
I think it is a metter of everyones opnion, noone has a right to tell any other person what to do or not. Anyway this thread doesnt even belong in this section and should be closed!
Mr Ali I think you are contradicting yourself there, "no one should tell other peoples what to do and what not to do" and then you saying this thread should be close because it does not belong to this??? Why is that. And I think when I was talking about not watching indian movies I am not pushing anybody to do it. I am just asking how many people agree with my point of view. I am sure if anybodies family member would have died in Kashmir and film is been shown on TV or video, your feeling would have been different.
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Originally posted by DeSiMuNdA:
** it's all good FunkyDesi...
n btw, ppl who think u r backwards just cuz u r not uptodate with the info on the latest indian actors/actoresess, well, all i'm going to say is they are very superficial...not really worth wasting ur time on.
newayz...carry on the discussion ppl...c, it's not that hard to have a conversation with someone without taking it personally.
and again, hopefully i won't have to close this thread cuz of the actions of a few members.
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Yes we should stop watching indian movies,its about time we do that.most of us grew up watching them and appreciating the "wah hayat"scenes that they brought to us.
Its time that we watch Pakistani movies because it would be patriotic and we get grade A wah hayat scenes in them.I mean our film industry has struggled so much and they have finally broken all the barriers so our beautiful young actressess can almost bare all of them and entertain our families and all the present generation and set example and high(bare all)standards for the coming generations.
i am sure u people get the point...
Thanks for your update and encouragement girls and guys. This is my 2nd week in comfort without watching anything INDIAN...(including songs, films) tap on the back lol
They're all either based on the same damn ridiculous story over and over.
Or they're simply rip-offs of HollyWood movies. Just the other day, I saw an Indian movie, which was the EXACT copy of the Wedding Singer.
Bollywood is pathetic. If you want to see an Indian movie. Just watch an English movie, since 9 times out of 10, the indian movie would be the same exact rip.