Mirch and Teggy, thanks for your help.
one more question;
Why kaka is always "Manha" and is read "Kaka Manha", this is a "non-googleable" question
My parents moved out of Pubjab when I was a baby , so I would not know. My Punjabi is dhaka start. When I talk in Punjabi it shounds like an Engine which misfires/misses beats frequently.