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*Originally posted by Wise One: *
please choose your words carefully when you are talkign about hadith , i dont know if you are muslim or not but even if you're not these are exactly the kind of perceptions that you should phrase carfeully. because when you throw statements like these you are taking a shot at hadith not a person you disagree with on forum.
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WHATEVER!!
O you who believe! Raise not your voices above the voice of the Prophet (SAW), nor speak aloud to him in talk as you speak aloud to one another, lest your deeds may be rendered fruitless while you perceive not. (Al-Hujurat 49:2)
Verily! Those who lower their voices in the presence of Allâh’s Messenger (SAW), they are the ones whose hearts Allâh has tested for piety. For them is forgiveness and a great reward. (Al-Hujurat 49:3)
showing disrespect to sahih hadiths is same as showing disrespect to rasul :saw:…we all should be careful in our approach to these matters.
but Daas seems like a hindoos.
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is there a hadith about this too or is the reason for this change that the idol-worshippers are beating the crap out of you hadith-worshippers in every job market ?
u guys dont want to live in your own motherland (Pakistan?) and the only place left on earth where you are still somewhat welcome are smelly armpits of arbia. And even there u are no match for the hordes of talented young men and women coming from idol-worshipping-land....so if u cannt compete with them on merits then why not get them out of the picture using religion....very smart
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Congratulations all y'all got the toilet cleaning jobs good on you. BTW is this why you guys keep coming here?.... to stick your nose in our discussions and try to put us in our place?
I could be wrong..
I thought I read some place that one of Mohammad's wifes was Jewish?
Anyhow... I have a couple questions?
Was Umar equal in stature to Mohammad?
Was Umar a holy receptical of [Gods Voice?]
(Umar's words understood to mean that God himself decreed?)
Where in the Quran does God expell non-muslims from the Arabian Peninsula?
Have off-topic Q.
The Arabian Peninsula was called ????? circa 700 C.E.? Was it Persia?
Wasn't Princess Diana allowed to visit Mecca and Medina?
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*Originally posted by AvgAmericanGirl: *
I could be wrong..
I thought I read some place that one of Mohammad's wifes was Jewish?
Anyhow... I have a couple questions?
Was Umar equal in stature to Mohammad?
Was Umar a holy receptical of Gods Voice?
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She reverted was a muslim mashAllah, no way Prophet is messenger Umer was a disciple. I dont know abotu lady d so cant help u there
Re: tit for tat
I second that:k: 
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so you disagree with the ruling of rasul :saw:???
may allah bless the gupistan, it really does bring the malice from people’s heart in public, so then ppl have no excuse after that…
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You need to calm down, everything is a fatwa to you isnt it! I just think Muslims who belive such nonsense deserved to be kicked out of America and Europe…
As for RASUL, I dont belive he would have said that… Doesnt seem like something a merciful god would condone. But If he did say that, it was probably taken out of context by well meaning but error prone humans such as you and I.
From my knowledge, you can never trust a source that starts with “I heard, that such and such person heard, that that person said that…” especially when the person saying “that” originally, lived over 2000 years ago…
But if he did say that as you interpret it, and thats what he implied, then no I wouldnt agree with him. I would simply choose not count myself amongst his followers or his detractors.
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so if it is proven beyond REASONABLE doubt that rasul :saw: said that you would still not believe it?
i m speechless…is that the state of affairs of muslims today?
o allah as for me i hear and i obey
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You could never prove it, nothing in religion can ever be proven. So dont even bother.
I dont think he could ever have said that because no prophet would ever be so cruel as to expel an entire people from their homeland, where they have as much a right to be as anyone else.
And no I wouldnt listen to anyone who makes such a statement. Its wrong, and its cruel. I dont think im sinning when I say that, I was given , the gift of reason and logic from God, why should I be wrong for useing that logic to stand up for what I believe?
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*Originally posted by PaKpatriot1: *
You could never prove it, nothing in religion can ever be proven. So dont even bother.
I dont think he could ever have said that because no prophet would ever be so cruel as to expel an entire people from their homeland, where they have as much a right to be as anyone else.
And no I wouldnt listen to anyone who makes such a statement. Its wrong, and its cruel. I dont think im sinning when I say that, I was given , the gift of reason and logic from God, why should I be wrong for useing that logic to stand up for what I believe?
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i second that.
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*Originally posted by Lajawab: *Makkah and Medina are places of peace, sanctuary and spirituality...The farther filth stays away from it the better...
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when was the last time you saw a non-muslim begging to get into these places? to a non-muslim, there is nothing of value there. similarly, if a KKK rally in Podunkville, Iowa suddenly allowed black people to come, i dont think any will be lining up to enter.
BAo to madhanee fin naar…
Bhai/Behan try limiting your mind to teachi teachi or mungle singh…leave these diffcult problems to homosepeans…
Bao Yaar, yeh Kiya? Itni dayr Ghaib rahey, aur Aatay hi GaliaN deni shuroo kar di? Na koi Salam, na koi Dua?
