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3) alot of people know arabic from sub continent.
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Which subcontinent?
ullu,
trust you to ask a stupid question! im talking abt the indian subcontinent.I know of 10 people off the top of my head that speak arabic and are experts.
It is a classic example that these so called muslims can not bear to listen to the truth. If somebody is trying to point out to all the bad things, such as, drinking,gambling,womanising,pimping,drug smuggling etc. etc, being done by a large number of muslims, they have no answer and their administrator deciedes to take the thread off.
Well if the administrator wants to take the thread off because he feels that it is anti muslim feelings then why in the name of hell does he not take off those threads where hindu religion and sikh religion are insulted by these narrow minded so called muslims.
Please tell me Mr Administrator
What did I say wrong in my message in the topic named 'Large number of muslims are drinkers, gamblers and womanisers'
Jai Sri Krishna
Mr. Desai
You as a Hindu should know everything is false here
Only truth is " DEATH " no one can denie
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Originally posted by sufimaster:
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ullu,
trust you to ask a stupid question! im talking abt the indian subcontinent.I know of 10 people off the top of my head that speak arabic and are experts.**
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I know some 10 people that can speak French too.. More than a billion live in subcontinent.. i dont think even one in 10000 knows arabic. Even imams in mosques often dont.
ullu,
you said " i dont think one in 10000 speaks arabic". WEll you think tooo much! you really are an ullu!
are you qadiani? also tell me abit abt rabwah, i heard alot of muslims live their aswell as qadianis.
At least non of the millions of hindu Gods send human males on this earth with a complete body and then order them to get their willies cut off and order females to have their fannies cut off and then sewn up.
Has any body heard of thousands of young muslim girls dying because of this horrible muslim practice, in countries like somalia and sudan?
What I would like to know is that if God wanted muslims not to have these bits of their bodies then why did HE creat them with complete bodies in the first place? Surely it can't be that difficult for God to create a muslim without his foreskin, can it?
dear sanjhabanda,
its african culture that says females should be circumcised not islam. Also islam proves tht being circumcised for males prevents alot of diseases of that area. Non muslims suffer alot of problems with their urinary tract cos of not being circumcised.
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Originally posted by sanjhabanda:
**At least non of the millions of hindu Gods send human males on this earth with a complete body and then order them to get their willies cut off and order females to have their fannies cut off and then sewn up.
Has any body heard of thousands of young muslim girls dying because of this horrible muslim practice, in countries like somalia and sudan?
What I would like to know is that if God wanted muslims not to have these bits of their bodies then why did HE creat them with complete bodies in the first place? Surely it can't be that difficult for God to create a muslim without his foreskin, can it? **
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You are funny!
God could also create you without nails but you are with it and you have to cut your nails quite often. The "important" matter you pointed out is nothing but for the sake of similar hygenic care.
However, on female part, that is an African tradition and not an Islamic order.
You can not compare cutting your nails to cutting off the foreskin. when you are cutting off your nails you are cutting off the dead matter just as you would cut of a dead branch from a tree, you also lose dead skin from your body all the time naturally. But cutting off the foreskin of a young boy is part of his living body.
As far as hygiene is concerned, do you not brush your teeth every day, wash your bum everyday and have a shower everyday to clean yourself? Then why is it so difficult for a man to clean under his foreskin every morning whilst having a shower?
I suppose it does make sense for those to have the foreskin cut off who can't be bothered to have a shower or a bath everday, because just as you get undesireable matter in your mouth, eyes, nose and ears you also get it under your foreskin.
You don't cut of parts of your mouth,eyes,ears or nose for the sake of hygine, do you?
oye sanjabanda ji
why do you concern yourself if our muslim brothers want to have part of their willy cut off. my willy is complete the way waheguru had put it on my body, when he created me to come to this world and i can assure you that i do clean it every morning when i have a shower. my father showed me what to do, when i was only a little boy. i in return told the same to my sons when they were only 3 or 4 years old, same as i told them to use soap all over their bodies every morning when having a shower.it is quite possible that in the case of our muslim brothers their allah may have realised afterwards that he made a mistake and later told them to rectify that mistake.
My Indian friends,
Your fascination with genitalia is all very entertaining, but I expected more spiritual contributions from you people. Forget willies and fannies and tell us why you think that it is ok for someone to write a play about Guru Nanak being a poofter (hypothetically) because I think we muslims need to learn about tolerance. Foreskins are really pretty secondary to deep matters like this one.
ranchodji/ sanjhabanda,
medical science will prove that even if you clean your willy but are not circumcised you still get dirty diseases. I am a doctor .......trust me! in the west white males especially have urinary problems cos they not circumcise.....so hindus and other people should be recommended to have it done.......
as for dirty plays abt guru nanak is concerned im shocked abt this matter.......How can hindus make this stuff.Guru nanak is a great man. mr xtreme is correct, we should complain against such dirty plays set out to destroy the image of guru nanak!
oh ji sufimasterji
sat sri akal
darassal vich asin nahin cahunde tuhade islam di hattak karani, per jad tusin loak sikhan te hinduan di sharre aam hattak karde o tan tusin saade koalon ki bhalde ho?
ih thread tuhada hi chalayia hoya hai, 'why my hindu and sikh brothers/sisters come to islam'. tusin apni gall sikh te hindu dharam nu islam nalon ghatiya zahar kar ke hi ih gal sabat kar sakade ho, ki nahin? kujh akal karo, j tusin dusriyan kolon islam waste izzat labhde ho tan doosrian de dharm di hattak na karo.
ih jaan ke khushi hoi ke tusin daktar ho te tuhadi rai vich sunnat na karan naal kai bimarian lagg jandian han. j iho jahi gall hai tan sari duniya de daktar hi kion nahan sunnat karan vaste mashwara dinde?
ik gall hoar, Rab ne bande nu apne varga banaya c (god made man into his own image). is gall ton ih zahar nahin hunda ke rab di sunnat nahin c keeti hoi.
rab tuhada bhaala kare te zara ku mat deve.
Sufimasterji
sat sri akal
there is no need for us sikhs to convert into islam, because we can find all we need from our own religion. i agree that there are a small number of sikhs converting to islam, but they are the ones who are weak minded people and can be easily persuaded to convert. on the other hand there would also be a small number of muslims converting to other religions if it was'nt for the death penalty imposed for converting out of islam.
Sikhism - Sikh Dharma is based on the concept of universal acceptance of all humanity and the belief in One Creator. Sikh Dharma began over 500 years ago with a simple message of truthful living. The universal nature of the Sikh path reaches out to people of all faiths and cultural backgrounds, encouraging us to see beyond our differences and to work together for world peace and harmony.
Rab Raakha
dear banta singh,
thanks for that spech of yours in pure punjabi. Yes, if nonmuslim doctors did implement the sunnat then their wouldnt be any diseases like you said.ITs because of reading hadith and quran that non muslim doctors and scientists are converting to islam.
If nonmuslims followed the quran their wouldnt be outbreaks of cjd and mad cow disease.The quran says dont feed cows with other animal feed cos this is source of disease and so now people is suffering the consequences.
if sikhs are satisfied with their religion why do they turn to islam....you need to go out more into the world and take a look. Islam in england is fastest growing among sikhs.
also, i was saying before we should do something abt these dirty plays on guru nanak. Who is responsible for this evil plays?......the hindus?
I've known some Sikhs to have become Christian,some Christian to have become Sikhs,some Muslims who have become Christian,some Christian who have become Buddhist,some Christians who have become Muslim.
sufimaster ji
sat sri akal
i really don't know what you are talking about when you are talking about cjd and mad cow desease. it has got nothing to do with any religion, it's just human greed that these animals were fed on non-vrg. there is'nt a single religion that tells you to feed the cows on non-veg. now don't tell me that there are'nt any greedy muslims in this world.
my arguement about the sunnat is very very simple. according to the middle eastern religions including islam god created man in his own image. sikhs don't believe in this theory because we believe that god has no form or shape. but if your theory is correct then god creating a male with an uncircumcised penis simply means that god's penis was also uncircumcised.
when it comes to your holy book, not even a single word can be altered or removed because it is the word of god but when it comes to the human body then it is ok to alter and remove a small part from god's creation.
as i said in my previous post, when god created a human male, why could he not create him with an circumcised penis in the first place?
rab raakha
sufimaster ji
sat sri akal
you have mentioned many a time about this play by hindus on guru nanak dev ji. i have not heard anything about such a play apart from these gup shup pages. would you b kind enough to direct me to where i can find out a bit more about this play. i reserve my comments on this topic until i can find out the truth. one thing i do know is that most hindus consider baba nanak as a reincarnation of vishnu.
rab tuhada bhala kare
dear banta singh,
you are taking everyhting out of context. My thread is entitled "why my hindu and sikh brothers/sisters come to islam".
i said in one of my posts that alot of non muslim doctors and scientists is coming to islam because they learn abt science in quran and other aspects.
if you want to talk abt peoples willies then open up your own thread. call your thread whatever you like.
regarding guru nanak then i asked the question who is behind such plays?..... the hindus? it was brother Xtreme that enlightened us abt such evil plays ask him!
if you have nothing to contribute abt the topic heading then i wont answer you again.