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Come up with examples from recent past when Muslims disrespected religious leaders of non-Muslims. As far as the Abrahamic religions are concerned, their prophets are equally respected by Muslims. Let me know if Muslims written baseless novels and made movies on the religious leaders of Non-Muslims for instigating hatred and riots?

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I m not a fan of Rushdie and dislike him just like another muslim would. But when U have pointed finger on him getting refuge, than plz find out if something like this too happened with muslims hurting sentiments of non muslims while sitting in safe muslim and non muslim heavens? Plz forgive me but I find ur comment as irrelevent as the carricature itself, if U disagree than plz let me know why.
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Everyone writing against Islam and Muslims is the best seller in west. What does this tell us about the society as a whole? Name people from Muslim World who disrespected non-muslims religious leaders and got refuge in Muslim world. I would like to know hatred literature being produced by Muslims to the level of 'Satanic Verses' and 'Innocence of Muslims'. Want to see how low they can go!

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I dont deny that some western historians were bigot, but can U afford to deny that historians many times more than those bigots were honest enough to earn a praise from U? and can U afford to claim than there were no bigot historian in muslim world? Plz think over it and U will find ur claims, I m sorry to say this. hollow. And I dont want to start a fresh debate here, but there are muslim attackers who are glamorised in ur muslim world for killing and looting in non muslim lands, and hurting their religious sentiments, that too in the name of Islam. Does that invite for some sweeping carricaturs? NO.

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I myself talk lot about Aurangzeb and Ghaznavi evem MBQ from different perspective on this forum too, but when it comes to portraying negative image of East, West did every attempt to prove that. Golden period of Islamic contribution to fields of Science and technology was termed as dark ages. Its a very wast topic in itself. so don't want to further comment on it here.

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Agreed that the holy prophet always advocated peace and insulting him is a sin and againts ethics of a civil society too, but does this blame of disrespecting a religious figure lies on non muslims only? Plz let me know.

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Bring me examples from latest technological era, when propaganda against any leader other the Prophet has been intentionally made to enrage Muslims. Are there any caricature contest for other non-Muslim leaders started by Muslims on facebook, etc?

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Plz forgive me, but I again term this as hollow comments. plz let me know what goes wrong with muslim tear glands when millions of muslims are massacred by Saddam hussain and likes of him, and when millions of muslims are massacred and displaced by noble muslims in places like Darfur. doesnt that invites for some sweeping carricature against muslim atrocities? Not to talk about in countries like Pakistan where innocent muslims are branded as islamic terrorists and shot. Issues which needs to draw sweeping carricatures could be countless, but only if U come out of ur usual pre-concieved notions against non muslims.

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The question what was UN doing when all these atrocities were happening? Why UN is fast to resolve non-Muslims issues and keep on pending issues in Muslim countries. Is there any good usage of that so called international body for Muslims except for putting some sanctions on them?

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Mere bhai, my real objection was the sweeping attitude of these carricaturs which
seems to show up that muslims are always bechara and opressed everywhere, which is factually a balant lie. Now this is turning into a debate who is right or wrong, which is wrong in principle. anyways, when U have asked me about some information, than for ur kind knowledge permit me to bring up one instance where a celebrated muslim painter mistakingly (in my views) insulted hindu dieties (in whom I dont believe) and found refuge in some muslim land, and myself and like-minded ppls dont have any objection in it.

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And I ask a very honest question to U, dont U feel that non-islamic religious personalities, specially hindu, are frequently insulted by muslims? Let me quote Allama Iqbal here…

Quam apni jo Maal-O-Zar par marti
But faroshi ki iwaz but shikni kyon karti?

Now I dont want to start a fresh off-topic debate once again about the moral of idol breaking. but let me inform U that I m against Idol worshipping as well as Idol breaking, coz it hurts religious sentiments of some peoples. So I feel that ur arguments that muslims are very sensitive to other religious sentiments is absolustely baseless in my views.

If U want to see how low muslims can go in terms of hurting and insulting other beliefs, than U dont have to go too far away, just find out in Islamic religious books how muslim religiuos personalities have been insulted by muslim themselves. I cant comment on satanic verses or innocence of muslims coz nor I have read them nor seen them. but ur attempt to prove that muslims are really innocent in terms of hurting religious sentiments of others does not hold any water.

And the real topic was the carricatures in question which I objected to and U objected to my objection. lets talk about the intention behind those cartoons displayed here.

I have no problem with ur above claims, but again it was off topic, and does not call for those carricaturs. hope u agree.

I m not an advocate or spokesman for UN, better U ask this question to right person, If U have any question or objection about the topic in hand, than plz let me know. I was only pointing out that muslims who are bechara enough to draw these carricaturs, immidiately turn a blind eye to the fact that muslim oppression is done in greater magnitude than non-muslims. if U have any objection in my statement than plz ask for explanation,. I will try to obilige.

To end the post, permit me to pose a question, DO U AGREE WITH THE MESSAGE THESE CARRICATURES ARE DELIEVERING? If yes, than plz give some examples that can justify ur agreement.

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I also don’t want to go in long debate. regarding caricatures, I would just say ‘duhwan wahin se uthta hai jahan aag hoti hai’

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Aapki baat sahi hai, magar 'zabardasti aur bewajah aag jala kar bhi dhuwan karne walo, aur aag aag ka shor machane walo ke bare me kuch tabadla e khayaal kar liya jaye to shayad ye debate kisi munasib anjaam pe pahoch jaye.'

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ji haan dunia main ek Muslims hi suicidal hai, jo zabaradasti aag laga kar shor machate hain :salute:

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Ji Nahin, ye aapki apni soch ho sakti hai meri nahin, sach jaanne chahte hain to ek lambi zamaat hai hindus ki jo isi tarha sochte hain aur isi tarha ka propoganda failate hain jis tarha ye carricature banane wale ne socha aur kiya tha, ye sab log kapre ke ek hi thaan se kate hue hote hain.

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:hmmm: same goes true for holocaust wale brethren

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es ka matlb hai hum aapko kissi ko criticize kartay nahai daikhain gy!