Look what did Ross Perot do to Bush senior? He cost him the election has they had the same views. Nader could cost Kerry the election as well. Secondly it is a waste of a vote if it does cost Kerry the election (from the general point of view).
The majority of muslims are gonna vote for Kerry? Well then they are stupid. Kerry will not change anything. None of these draconian laws will be revoked. There will suddenly be no renassiance of the American Political Establishment. It will get worse under Kerry as well. The problem with Kerry is that he would want a re-election bid as well. Thus he would be far more prone to follow Israel. That spells doom for the Middle East and the Pakistani government.
Domestically he cant do anything about the economy. I mean what can he do exactly? That would be up to the FED and other economy related departments. He can take some policy initiatives but the way things are going now they will only get better 2 or 3 years down the road. So he could just fluke it.
When it comes to our priorities, Islam comes first and then Pakistan, Even though Bush and Musharaf are close allies on this so called war on terrorism, but what Bush has done in Middle east Kerry can’t do any worse. Kerry is lesser of 2 evils, so Muslims should and will vote for Kerry. The topic of the thread is if Muslim should vote for Bush, not Pakistanis, so why we keep dragging Pakistan in this discussion?
Well Agent smith what site is this? A Pakistani one. What religion does Pakistan have? Islam. Do i need to draw it in colour? I bring in Pakistan because it is my homeland. I care about its safety over that of other Islamic states. Sue for not believing in the whole Ummah Concept. But that concept is dead. Where was the Ummah when Libya and Iran sold us out to the US? Where is it for the Palestinain people? The Kashmiris? The people of Aceh? The Chechnyans?
If this the ummah you speak of you can keep it. I prefer protecting my own.
Btw Kerry is not the lesser of two evils. He is the greater of two evils. I suggest you read up on the power AIPAC has in the Democratic Party. See how policies have been implemented under democrats for the past 50 years. Any sales of technology military or semi-military has taken place under mainly Republican Administrations.
The democrats arent good for Islam nor are they good for Pakistan.
Also there will be no changes in the Draconian laws implemented by the American government. So what exactly do you expect to gain from a Kerry win? I know what you will see. Just what is happening right now and worse.
Btw Kerry is not the lesser of two evils. He is the greater of two evils. I suggest you read up on the power AIPAC has in the Democratic Party. See how policies have been implemented under democrats for the past 50 years. Any sales of technology military or semi-military has taken place under mainly Republican Administrations.
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Any sales of technology military or semi-military has taken place under mainly Republican Administrations.
Do you think selling military technology is a good thing?
A reason to support Bush and the republican party?
Does sharing military technology promote peace?
Why do you think Kerry Admin would be worse for Muslims?
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You wouldnt expect me to say that now would you? But this coming election Bush gets my vote. Why you ask? Well its as follows. It is between choosing two evils. Kerry and Bush are no different from each other on the war on terrorism or on any thing with regard to foriegn policy. They have the same policies. The difference is that Kerry is smarter. Not a good thing. Imagine Bush but smarter. There goes the earth and most of our solar system dont you think?
Secondly the democractic party is known for its pro-israel/jewish stance. There are i believe 15 jewish senators of which a majority are democrats. Thus it is obvious they are not well inclined towards muslims or muslim countries. Just take a look at the way AIPAC lobbies and what actions are taken against muslim countries. There is a very strong link between the two.
Third they (democrats) are not well desposed to Pakistan at all. Rather they see us as the next threat after China of course. We are a bigger threat than Iran according to the democrats. So the current good favor that the CE enjoys with President Bush will be non-existant under kerry also we will lose all our benefits and debt re-scheduling.
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how can a dumb Bush beneficial for muslims? his dumbness can cost muslims more since he can easily be fooled by hawks in his party as was in Iraq's case.
Muslims voted for Bush since Libermann as a jew wasnt acceptable to muslims. did anything changed? A good jew can be better tha an evil mulsim or a christian for muslims..
We also had great favor in Zia's time with political and economical grants.. it never changed fortune of Pakistan... we shouldnt beg for some grants or help from USA..
Bush hasn't reached out to the American Muslim community, Kerry has.
The only way Bush could be more pro-Bush is if he changed his first name to Ariel; Bill Clinton invited Yasir Arafat to the White House more than any other world leader.
Perhaps Bush is better for Pakistan but I can sacrifice billions in US aid if it means 10,000 Iraqis, Syrians and Iranians will live. Don't be fooled, more wars will come if W gets another four years.
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On the domestic front i agree with Bush as well. But i am a republican so go figure. I like his policies towards same sex marriages and the general Republican mandate on domestic issues.
As for the treatment. Bush nor his team did not draft the nazi Patriot bills. Rather it was the people working in the dept that did that. So you cant blame the Bush Administration. Also it was unopposed in the house and senate. Both Dems and Rep voted for the bill(s).
Secondly the harrasement is on a individual level. It is not by Bush himself nor is it by say Powell. It does done by the local idiot on the street.
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CM,
Your wrong there. Majority Republican congress.
If John Kerry is elected...would be the the people he has to deal with.
I think would be different from George .. sinse he has never vetoed anything.
why did the same democrats who are all talk about civil liberties not oppose the secret evidence act prior to W taking office?
I dont think there is much difference between ashcroft and Reno..aside from the secret evidence crap she also has the feather of brilliant work at Waco to her credit.
P.S. did you get a response from a democrat senator?
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You are wrong my friend. I can't believe your views against voting for bush. SO WRONG.
It's do or die... Kerry might keep it same or make it worse but its better taking that chance cause Bush is the first president to cause such destruction to Muslims. Not as a country but globally.
Rock your vote for kerry...don't mention your voting for bush at local mosque...they might harm you.
whether muslims should vote for bush or not doesnt matter, its ur opinion. but i doubt thats going to happen. i'd say 90% of the muslims if not more are agasint bush after what he has done. I wouldn't vote for bush if my life depended on it. kerry all the way.. woohoo.