Neo-Hindu site on geocities fleeting site has a propoganda thrown at muslims as a last attempt to ditch before running for cover ,knowing very well HOW MUCH THINGROUND THEY STAND ON!!!
http://www.geocities.com/fmqu/Become.html
http://www.geocities.com/fmqu/Become.html
Why a Muslim should convert to Hinduism?
There are multiple issues on the above question.
1. Who is a Muslim?
2. Why she/he should convert?
3. Why Hinduism?
1. Who is a Muslim?
Muslim is a person by birth or by choice became a follower of Islam.
Islam is a set of beliefs propounded by Mohammad who claimed the angel
Gibriel told him the Quran, the word of God. The compilation of such
verses from Mohammad’s mouth became Quran as it exists today. As said in
Quran itself, there are two versions of Quran, the one exists in heaven
and another that exists in earth. The one exists in earth is compiled by
Khalifa Uthman.
Muslims are told these things from their birth till they die. Quran and
the story of Mohammad (called Hadiths) are expounded day in day out in
the Muslim media. Even scientists are writing that Quran has scientific
truths that an illiterate Mohammad could not have known. And their
writings are constantly published in the media as the proof of “God’s
Work”.
Islam was spread by both sword and teachings. Miracle workers called
sufi saints spread Islam in places where other religions like Hinduism
reigned. Muslim Kings captured vast areas of earth and converted the
people into Islam. Except in India, wherever Muslim kings ruled, it
became Islamic. Even in India, Bengal, Kashmir, Sindh, Punjab,
Afghanistan became majority Muslim due to the forcible conversion of
locals into Muslims. In other places, where Muslim kings were not there,
the sufi saints and Muslim preachers converted the local people into
Muslims.
History is history. Some of the forefathers of the current generation
converted by preaching and some others converted by force. There is no
need to go back to that and feel bitter about it. Many Hindus feel
bitter about this. They view the Muslims are brothers who started
fighting Hindus just because the remaining did not convert to Islam. And
Muslims think that Hindus are still in old “polytheist” ways and they
need to convert to Islam.
Make no mistake about this. Muslims strongly feel that their religion
is the correct one and Hinduism is primitive religion. And Hindus feel
that Hinduism is a “natural” religion, which did not have a human
founder. And Many Hindus believe that all the rivers lead to the same
ocean and hence there is no need to fight over which river to take to
reach the ocean.
2. Why should a Muslim convert?
Taking an objective view of the history, we see that every religion
arises out of necessity of the times. And humans have an uncanny ability
to swim with the times.
Those who adjust and live with the times survive and those who refuse
to accept the times, they die. Those who accept the times and adopt to
the environment survive to the next generation. Same is the case with
religions and ideas.
Why there is no one supporting a flat earth society? When the world did
not accept that the earth is round, if you had said earth is round, you
would probably be called a madman and probably die in a mental asylum
too.
When the world can be seen from a satellite, there is no need to
theorize about the roundness of the earth. It is round. We can see it.
Once we see it there is no confusion. Anyone who still thinks that earth
is flat IS a madman. And he would probably die in a mental asylum too.
You can say it is a survival of the concepts. Any concept that refutes
the current human knowledge is doomed to be a failure and the people
upholding that will probably be condemned as well.
On the other hand there are some successful concepts that are time
tested and time honoured. The people who uphold those ideas live longer
and live prosperously. They pass on their knowledge to their children
and to their children and the community prospers.
One such concept is respecting the ideas of others. It may look self
contradictory, but looking closely, we see the obvious thing about that.
One may argue, if I respect the idea of the other person, what will
happen to my ideas? My ideas may not receive that much importance. But
looking closely, we see that by respecting the other person’s ideas, we
kind of make the other person respect our ideas. By making “respect for
other person’s opinion” as the cardinal principle of the society, we
redeem everyone in the society.
That is the bottom line of civilization. When we call somebody
“civilized” we assume that person is able to argue an issue without
becoming angry about that issue.
“Civilized” is a two-person work. There cannot be one person talking
civilized and another person attacking him with a club. There should be
a basis on which both the persons can talk to each other.
Let us assume that one person’s religion says “Respect everyone and
never use violence”. And another person’s religion says “Never have
friendship with anyone who does not believe in our religion. And kill
him wherever you find him”. Where is the common ground on which both the
persons can talk to each other?
Often I am faced with this question. Does a terrorist have human
rights?
A terrorist is one who uses terror and random violence and disrespect
of other people’s human rights to further his aim. When he is captured,
he pleads that to the captor, “I am a terrorist. I terrorize people.
That is what I do. But you are a respector of human rights and respect
everyone and you should not use violence. So you should not harm me”
What should the captor do?
The reality is lot different from the hypothetical scenerio I presented.
When the terrorist is on prowl, he makes the other person also little
bit terrorist. Because, the other person’s survival as a human being
depends on it. Whenever he finds this terrorist, most likely he will
kill this terrorist than to reason with him. And reasoning with him is
futile. And his reasoning is based on different set of rules for both
the people.
This is the same case with the nations, religions and ideas. Certain
civilizations can survive only if the terrorists are cleaned from the
society. If everyone takes up arms against everyone else for the
difference of opinion, then the future of humanity is at stake.
Our human body contains so many cells. All the cells are identical in
core but the functions are different. The dna inside neuron is 100% no
different from the dna of a skin cell. But the cells do different
functions. But also in our body there are so many different organisms
live. Small bacteria in our intestines and in various parts of the body
provide benevolent work. They kind of live in symbiosis. Some are good
parasites. And they are needed for the body. But when another virus
which is not helpful for the body arrives inside a human body, there
could be only one answer. Either the virus dies or the human body dies.
If the virus dies, the human body will remember the virus. And will
attack if the virus strikes again. If the human body dies, the virus
also dies along with that. (Except when the virus is spread to another
human body before or after the human body dies)
A civilization also is like a human body. When the good ideas from one
civilization comes to another civilization, both the civilizations
benefit. If bad ideas comes to another civilization, then that
civilization falls ill.
It is not very difficult to see which civilization is prospering and
which civilization is falling ill and which civilization is internally
collapsing.
Again, there is a need for talking to Muslims. We have Buddhists of
Burma and Laos who are inward looking and closed societies. They neither
inflict pain on others nor other people inflict pain on them. The
influence of Communism in Cambodia had produced Pol Pot who wanted to
created a perfect society and went on to kill 1 million Cambodians in
trying to reach a society like that. He destroyed Television sets,
radios, any trace of industrial activity, and knowledge associated with
western civilization or western industrial products. He killed all the
engineers and doctors and destroyed beaurocracy. But he was not invading
other countries and trying to impose his rules on others.
But the Islamic ideology is different. The pure interpreters of Islamic
ideology say that Television sets, Music tapes are to be banned by the
Islamic state. And the interpreters who study Quran and Sunnah for many
years come out of the schools and insist that the whole world is to be
converted into Islamic state. And they teach these things to the people
who come to mosques looking for sprituality.
So, in one way, Islam is standing against modernity. It is apt to
remember what Turkey did to Mullahs. The General Kemal Ataturk who was a
great turkish patriot, put all the mullahs in one ship and sent them to
Mecca on a pilgrimage and bombed the ship to kill all the Mullahs. Now
Turkish nation is the most progressed nation among the Islamic
countries. But the problem is that right now the new breed of Mullahs in
Turkey who are threatening the nation in the name of Islam. Since the
people did not convert to some other religion, the people continue to
teach the Islamic teachings to the children and the children carry the
burden again.
That is why the Muslims need to convert out of Islam. You may think that
my child is in US and no way my boy is going to become a terrorist or my
girl is going to become a fourth wife of an old man. But the pervasive
internet is going to address your boy as he identifies himself as a
Muslim. Even if the current generation is brilliant and you have taught
the values of life and respect for everyone’s opinion, what about the
children of your children?
Before that, we have to talk about God. God is the creator of this
infinite universe. There may be even multiple universes. Theruniverse.
There may be even multiple universes. There are million and million
civilizations possibly living in million and million planets like our
earth. Why on the world th
Can the great lord of the universe be fully described in just one book?
Is it possible for anyone to think that he could know the mind of the
Lord of the universe by reading one book? Would he be personally angry
at someone not worshipping him? would the God limit Himself in such a
way that he could never speak again to another human for all eternity to
come? Will not he be magnanimous that he can be praised and worshipped
in many different ways?
Sufis understood these things. Though they were Muslims and converted
people from many different religions into Muslims, they spoke about
becoming one with the Lord, and talked about realizing Lord in our soul.
The sufi teachings are essentially the knowledge gained by the Muslims
from the Hindus and spread in the Muslim world. For that work, the sufis
were often skinned alive by the Muslim Kings and Muslim Mullahs.
Ultimately, it is the traditional understanding of Quran which won the
battle again and again. Because Quran is not ambiguous in its calls to
kill the infidels. And that is what is being read by every Christian,
Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh and Jain in the world. And certainly he is going
to think that Islam is a violent religion and Muslims are violent
people.
And the things happening in the world just prove that true. And when
the critical point breaks and other religious people’s tolerance cross
the limits, there would be a massacre and that would not check whether
one Muslim is a namesake Muslim or enlightened Muslim. The world already
had started identifying a Muslim with a terrorist. And that is a danger
sign.
Sooner the Muslim convert, it is better for him and for his children.
3. Why Hinduism?
Hinduism is not the actual name of this religion. The actual name is
“Sanathan Dharma”. This means Eternal Law. This is the name that Hindus
identified themselves for thousands of years.
The saints of Sanathan Dharma say that the Lord is incomprehensible. No
one can define nor one can authoritatively say that he understood who is
Lord and what is God. But only a tiny piece of that divinity can be
understood by anyone.
For example, take yourself. You are a son of your father and mother.
Husband to your wife and father to your son and daughter. You are a
grandfather to your grandchildren. You are a worker of your company and
friend of your friends. But who are you? And how many are you? You know
you are one, but you speak differently with your son and you speak
differently with your grand child. it is as if two different persons.
If even a humble mortal like you can be seen and act in so many
different ways, what about the Lord of the universe? We know he is one,
but he is too big to be comprehended by anyone. And he is different for
different people. For someone who wants education, she is saraswathy,
the lord of education. For some one who wants money she is lord of
wealth, lakshmi. For someone who wants power, she is Lord of energy,
Sakthi. That is in one level where a man looks for material things.
In another level, the learned and thinkers know the Lord is one and
they constantly teach the less learned about the respect for everyone’s
beliefs. But more higher a person moves up in sprituality, he
understands the most complex nature of the realization. And the
realization can neither be discoursed nor it can be explained. It is
like explaining to a person about sweetness. I know sugar is sweet. If I
am forced to explain what is sweetness of sugar to another person who
never experienced sugar or any sweet, how will I explain? Can one
explain at all? That is the same thing about realization of Lord. It had
to be experienced. It cannot be explained. But you can explain where to
find the sugar and how to eat the sugar. That exactly what all the
Sanatana Dharma books explain. For example, Gita explains the yogas, the
ways, to realize the Lord.
But again, if someone higher in sprituality explains his understanding
to someone who is not able enough too understand it, the student most
likely will corrupt the teachings and reduce the teachings to a
nonsense. That is the problem the Saints of Sanatana Dharma keep
explaining to the people. Just like material education, spritual
education should also be gradual. You cannot explain Einstein’s theory
to a Kindergarten student. So, you cannot teach the higher truth to the
novice. Some children are genius who could understand the Einstein’s
theory even in primary school. Sameway, some gifted religiuos people can
realize the Lord even at very young age or even with out the teacher.
That is exactly what Hinduism does. By removing the religion from the
material things and political things, it raises the realization of the
Lord into another educational area.
But other people who did not know the above things associated castes
with Hinduism and explained the world over that Hinduism is bad. Slavery
was in all Islamic and Christian lands but no one associates slavery
with Islam or christianity. Casteism is a political constitution of
ancient India, and Sanatana Dharma was a religion of the India and the
world. There is no need to confuse both.
Hindu Saints did talk about the functions of the society. Teachers
(brahmins), Warriors(kshatriyas), Traders(Vaishyas) and Sudras(workers)
exist in every society irrespective of whether that is America or
Pakistan. In ancient India, the Hindu saints codified the rules for
these people. How a warrior should behave? Why teachers(Brahmins) should
not have any properties? What are the obligations of the traders? These
are the issues some of them were converted to enforceable rules and some
of them were guiding principles. The modern India does not care about
castes. It slowly transforming from a hereditory caste structure to a
individualist society.
Hence there is no need to ask, “If I become Hindu, will I become a
sudra?” Millions of Hindus do not accept caste and millions of Hindus do
not have caste. Now people intermarry in India among the castes and
religions. Hence a simple declaration that “I am a Sanathani” itself is
enough to liberate you.
Being a Hindu entitles many things on you. You should educate your
children in modern sciences and encourage them into analytical thinking.
You should respect everyone else’s opinion and listen to them really.
You should help others to improve their life. You should do what is your
Dharma. That is if you are a student in college, you should really be a
student and nothing else ( I mean no politics and side-business etc) If
you are taking up work as an employee, you should do the work completely
with the satisfaction of yourself and everyone.
All the best and Best Wishes.
Thanks to Ayesha Ali in the newsgroups
Even the refence to Ayesha Ali make me grin in idiocy of Rss hindu Mahasabha ppl. who have sites like Sword Of truth(ironicaly lies),Hindu Net,Hindu Org. & milions of web sites with no substance only HOT AIR.
Ill comment on this wrote up seperately giving muslims here to se the fallacy & ignorence at its most contrasted by the true believers & as they say ppl. who are in the trencheses not reporting .
barque(bijli) yoon akadti hai apne karname pe ke
jaise phir naya hum aashiyaan bana nahi sakteœþM267G‡S_—<
[This message has been edited by Azad Munna (edited March 21, 2001).]
