Monk
August 22, 2014, 4:55am
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You are very clever. Trying to tire me out by making me type the same thing multiple times until I eventually give up?
I did say “Messiah Complex .” (Link to Wikipedia ). I’ll make an advance payment on the one word that will describe why his current attempt will fail.
**Hubris **(Link to Wikipedia ).
That was not my intention.
I read part of your original post.
Plus its sleep time.
Re: Why it is important to follow the constitution, despite its imperfections
cool...now i have two Fav commentators on GS
One yazdi and second SirJiDigIt.
yazdi
August 22, 2014, 5:44am
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^^^
Sir Dig A Lot
Appreciate your clarity in thought process and sense of humor !!!
BTW when PTIans talk about higher credentials.. they never consider having brain cells as any credential. Their cult leader was never blessed with brain cell credentials.. !!!!
Monk
August 22, 2014, 2:17pm
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abba jee marhoom was in full swing too
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Monk
August 22, 2014, 2:18pm
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Monk
August 22, 2014, 2:20pm
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out side of africa or middle east, I am sure this NS could not live out side of jail, never mind being a PM.
Plus lots of court document to chew on, dig a log :D
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@Sir_Dig_A_Lot
Man, missed your posts in cricketnama
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@yazdi : Likewise@Iconoclast : Good to see you too -- the decline of Pakistan team (quantity and quality) coincided with beginning of busy times in my life (twins), so took a break from being a know-it-all, delusional armchair critic :D
jasos
August 23, 2014, 5:37am
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@Sa1eem
I’ll respond to the two main points you raised.
(1) You claim that most of the elected members should have been disqualified from running based on article 62
My answer:
Article 62 (and 63) are poorly conceived and written. But even then, such qualification tests were indeed applied and as you may remember were the butt of many jokes.
The results of these judgments were inconsistent and sometimes ludicrous, but the process was followed. The inconsistency did arise from the fact that the qualification criteria wasn’t just limited to “proven” disqualifications, such as prior felonies or convictions from a court, rather had some subjective criteria built in that was applied differently by different officers. How do you judge “good moral character” in a matter of days. Who issues such certificates? If you run for office, and I claim that you are of poor moral character because you write long posts on gupshup, should the authorities disqualify you?
In the end, your judgement that most of the assembly members shouldn’t have qualified is YOUR subjective judgement. Disqualification through subjective judgement is a very convenient tool to get engineered result and is used most often in Iran.
I think as part of future reforms, the qualification should be made objective and not subjective so we don’t have the comedy of candidates being asked to recite Quranic versus in courts. Last I checked the judgement of who is a “good” muslim was supposed to rest with God himself. But until these changes are made, these are the rules everybody AGREED to play under.
(2) Your complaints about the FIR (or lack thereof ) about the Model town incident
My answer:
Let’s be intellectually honest. That’s not why Qadri and Imran are protesting, they had planned their protests prior to this mishandling by the Punjab government.
If the FIR is not being handled in a just manner, the legal recourse is to appeal to the court, which just made a decision favorable to Qadri’s stance, and the government has x number of days to either accept or appeal the judgement. So the process seems to be working, and both sides have the ability to future appeals as well.
If the process described above is not to the satisfaction of Qadri and company, the entity to protest against would be Punjab government. Though I won’t agree with it, it will be somewhat justifiable for them to stage a dharna in front of Punjab assembly and ask for resignation of the CM on the basis of 'moral responsibility." But staging a mob in Islamabad and asking for the dissolution of all assemblies, National and provincial has no justification.
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