Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Established by who, NATO? This idea would be rejected by China and Russia thus not approved by the UN security council, are you fine with that?
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
The conditions I have described havent happened yet, perhaps under those circumstances the UN might be forced to act. Im just theoretically not opposed to no-fly zones in these circumstances. As for who establishes it if it gets vetoed down, if there is a genocide going on I dont care about approval from UN security council. Ideally I'd like Muslim countries to step up instead of this being seen as a gora vested interests move.
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Check this out to see what this animal is doing to its own people.
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Ideally I'd like Muslim countries to step up instead of this being seen as a gora vested interests move.
I echo your views.
Theres no doubt Gadafi has become a Physcopathic danger to human life... However last thing we need is Team America to the rescue.
I hope the world can sort this mess out but direct Millitary intervention by the West is a big no no...
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
I echo your views.
Theres no doubt Gadafi has become a Physcopathic danger to human life... However last thing we need is Team America to the rescue.
I hope the world can sort this mess out but direct Millitary intervention by the West is a big no no...
Which Muslim countries, the ones who are busy trying to stop their own citizens coming out on streets against their dictatorial rule. Yeah, there is more chance of seeing pigs fly.
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Yaar Middle East is not the only region on earth full of Muslims... I would rather trust Muslims in such matters or at the least a nuetral state.
Britain and America and countries like France cannot be trusted... you forget Gadafi was supported both financially and Millitarily by the West. He is the next Sadam mark my words.... any idiot can see the real picture here... USA and others like it are out for oil and Gadafi is the next big fish.
Ehsan uncle I think pigs will be flying before Muslims wake up.
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Exactly ehsan. I dont see Muslim countries acting on it, the best bet would have been Egpyt had their revolution been properly successful. At any rate, the need for intervention is there, and a preference for an active Muslim role doesnt mean I'd prefer to see people massacred just cause Im queezy about the West.
At the moment we're seeing reluctance from the Pentagon to do anything about it, and its not clear whether the Europeans have an appetite for it. Its quite possible that the killing will continue. Then in a few years we'll complain about how they could have saved lives but they didnt.
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Well thinking realistically here a big organisation like the UN should have no problem gathering a force of Neutral peace keepers from nations like the former Soviet Satellites and smaller highly efficent forces such as the Germans and Swiss, Indonesia and the Phillipines as well as South Korea are brilliant for this sort of role... no need to get the Yanks to wade in after oil.
As for Muslim countries what about Mali, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Turkey?
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Yaar Middle East is not the only region on earth full of Muslims... I would rather trust Muslims in such matters or at the least a nuetral state.
Britain and America and countries like France cannot be trusted... you forget Gadafi was supported both financially and Millitarily by the West. He is the next Sadam mark my words.... any idiot can see the real picture here... USA and others like it are out for oil and Gadafi is the next big fish.
Ehsan uncle I think pigs will be flying before Muslims wake up.
All this sounds very nice but from what I am seeing on TV my heart is bleeding and I dont care who rescues these people from the mad man. Watch the special programme on sky news going on now. Even Hitler would be ashamed of what this madmen is doing.
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Well thinking realistically here a big organisation like the UN should have no problem gathering a force of Neutral peace keepers from nations like the former Soviet Satellites and smaller highly efficent forces such as the Germans and Swiss, Indonesia and the Phillipines as well as South Korea are brilliant for this sort of role... no need to get the Yanks to wade in after oil.
As for Muslim countries what about Mali, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Turkey?
The only countries with any appetite to do something about it are european countries dependent on Libyan oil. And their interests are protected if Gaddafi crushes the rebellion ruthlessly, so they might just hold out.
I dont really value oil enough to care what the motivations the Yanks or anyone else has if they stop the loss of lives. Mali, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Turkey arent doing anything anytime soon.
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Yaar my heart has no blood left to bleed at the scale of things that have gone on… but please Uncle Ehsan stop getting over Jaazbati… This is Gadafi not Hitler. 
I know the situation is bad but anyone who knows anything of the history in the region would be weeping at the wreck that Libya has become… from Gadafi to the common people everything is shattered… This is the same Gadafi who a generation ago was a Hero to men like me… I dont forget these tragedies… I wont forget how imperialists tear us from the inside out.
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Mali, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Turkey arent doing anything anytime soon.
Thats a tragedy.... :(
Imperialists are winning...
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
So you think that anti west tirade is more important than the lives of these people. Killing your own people to stay in power is disgusting and yes I do compare him with Hitler. Yes I used to like him as well but he is not more important than the people of that country which he is butchering mercilessly. I dont think you would have been saying the same things if you were in zawyiah or any other place in Libya at the receiving end of his killing machine.
As for the muslim countries you mention show me a statement from the leaders of these countries condemning Gaddafi, intervention is a long way off.
I am not advocating an invasion Iraq style but maybe a no fly zone, humanitarian aid to the people and yes also arming them to fight against gaddafi and his hench man.
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
I am not advocating an invasion Iraq style but maybe a no fly zone, humanitarian aid to the people and yes also arming them to fight against gaddafi and his hench man.
On this I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Heres my personal opinion on the matter...
If I was in Zawyiah I would surely fight against Gadafi forces but I would be just as against the US or any other imperialist army coming into my country.
Why? Becuase despite the so called strategic bombing and surgical precision history shows clearly that Civillians are going to suffer even more when the West goes in to "help"... really it's an invasion carte blanche.
As for the muslim countries you mention show me a statement from the leaders of these countries condemning Gaddafi, intervention is a long way off.
Your right when you say this.
So you think that anti west tirade is more important than the lives of these people.
Offcourse not... but what possibly makes you think the West will do anything better? In fact the West is going to kill many many more people if it gets directly involved.
I am all up for a no fly zone... and giving the Natives arms maybe even small scale millitary support but nothing like another Iraq.
Libyans are stuck with a terrible choice here... fight it out and maybe risk losing a war, even your life.... but saving your country.... or sell out your country to live in debt even occupation.
My heart bleeds just like yours Ehsan Uncle but I'm sure you understand what I am saying as well... Gadafi is a tryrant, I couldnt give a monkeys if he was skinned alive but the Libyans themselve are not willing to be occuopied and the UK and America are like Vultures watching a dying country... in fact I think the Imperialists are biding thier time and letting Gadafi use up his ammo first before they move in...
Seriously what the world needs to do is have the UN put its foot down for once.... If the Americans and British garuntee they are not in it for self serving motives and are going to do it purely to save lives then fine they can go ahead.... but like you said pigs flying is more likely...
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Britain and america will intervene no doubt first they will put no fly zone, then more extereme sanctions on libya then set up safety zones then full military occupation.
Britian and america will not intervene in north korea and zimbabwe where people suffer for decades because not enough oil wells.
If they really care about human life they would be in north korea and zimbabwe long time ago.
Ghaddafi is mad dog now we know why, the egyptians and surrounding armies why they don't help their muslim brothers do they prefer the kuffar americans and british to use and abuse libya how they want?
Re: Why is the British media suddenly talking about ‘intervention’ in Libya?
Did you eat too much spicy bhajji that you have to come vent here? Conspiracy this conspiracy that...