Why is Pak majority silent?

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It’s a common truth that only 10% of Pakistanis follow hard-liner Muslim extremests and 90% oppose them ( source: BBC, CNN).

Then why we see these extremest groups spreading hatred all around Pakistan in the name of Islam (i.e., killing innocent christians/hindus/muslims/Ahmadis)?

Why the majority of Pakistani public, which is moderate in its belief, doesn’t utter a word against the mullahs and their pathetic beliefs; doesn’t do rallies; doesn’t write in newspapers/TV; doesn’t condemn mullahs’ acts in public?

Why doesn’t Pakistani government passes laws like whosoever spreads hatred within communities will be harshly punished; make amendments to constitution like there will be no compulsion on religion (following teachings from Holy Quran i.e., LA IQRAHA FIDDIN)?

I think, if we not only stop listening to hatred spread by mullahs but also stand against them and bring leaders who openly oppose them, Pakistan could become a very prosperous state.

What do you guys think?

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Because the majority has figured it out, that no one cares what they think or do. They are not asked about anything---- not one thing. When there is no law, no recourse, no justice, no education, no religion but mere hypocrisy all around, what do you want the average Pakistani to do? Pakistan is for the top few percent of the populace who as a Pakistani Newspaper in the last couple of days said "Their children are more at home at the Londen Zoo and Traflagar Square than any place in any city of Pakistan". Speak up and make his life 10 times more miserable!!

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**Then why we see these extremest groups spreading hatred all around Pakistan in the name of Islam (i.e., killing innocent christians/hindus/muslims/Ahmadis)? **

They are busy in shining the name of Pakistan - The Islamic Fort!

Don’t you ever say anything against them :mad2:

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Why the majority does not stand up is a question
that worries many these days. What I understand is
that this majority is so overwhelmingly occupied by
the struggle of making both ends meet that they
hardly get to think of anything else. Arrangement
of food for three times and a roof of their own is
all they have been reduced to worry about.

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Amal is right, many people are too busy just trying to make it by day to day. others are suffering from apathy, many are scared..you do not want to stick out like a sore thumb and be outspoken, for ake of your and your family's life.

The common man does epak, but to other common men, they should go out to the stret and speak to teh rest of the world and their country as well.

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I donno of any country where the 'majority' actually speaks up by coming in the streets. In other words the "majority" is always silent. Their true power comes with democracy, where they can be silent & still speak out (read: vote) for their ideals & goals that they think are beneficial for them as a society & as a nation (well almost).

Those who do come out on the streets are either the far right (politically correct term) or the far left; and in Pakistan most of the time both have only street power with the pendulum shifting towards the right in legislative terms more than the left. Why the right you ask? Ummm maybe because questioning the clergy (majority of the far right) is still a taboo & most of the times is equated to questioning the religion itself.

How can we do to hear the majority? First education, second democracy! How long before we as a nation realize? I can only hope & pray that its soon.

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The majority is afraid that the minority might blow up their houses if the spoke up...

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Adnan, not true... Its just that we dont care... We have better things to do than to go and arrange counter rallies for every stupid rally that the extremists manage to get out. They are not gaining any popularity are they? I mean look at the hizb, they have been trying for 50 years to promote hatred, fundoism and revive a caliph, they are still at the same point. Look at organizations such as jaish, lashkar etc... Its not that we are afraid of them, its just that we dont really care... And besides, we dont need to stoop to their low levels.

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I hope your right:k:
But you have to admit, that the Extremist have been known to be very formidable in the face of opposition.

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Its true, especially the part where they have successfully carried out murder in the name of religion in Pakistan. The sad thing is, there are still religious groups (one of them very active on this forum) who support these fundos openly. The moment we let go of the little support we have for these idiots, we are going to wipe out fundoism completely in Pakistan.

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I think the majority is silent because they've given up hope. They KNOW no one is going to listen, and they KNOW no one is going to stand up and lead them. And sometimes, they KNOW that if they do speak out, a dear one is going to get brutally murdered as punishment by the opposing small yet belligerent minority.

If someone tells you that they'll hurt ur wife or mother or daughter if you speak another word against them....it'll sure shut you up, regardless of how many you're up against.

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People are very quick to jump on the far right, since at least, they do stand for some principles, and they are very quick to come to the streets. Its doesn’t mean that the far right has not done any wrong. But lets just not forget, before the eighties all the killing & violence was based on the fundamentalist from left and their global dream of red-secular-semi-communist-Asia.

Lets just make this clear, the majority of Pakistanis are Muslims and “not moderate Muslims”, what you might consider as pathetic might be a clear-cut rule from Allah, and what ever is against that rule is condemned in newspapers and media and on the streets.

The reason we have seen so little reaction to what ever goes on in Pakistan in general is very strange. What ever may it be, the economy or the political structure, the coming and going of the army-political elite, what ever ….on the streets you would see very little reaction. Some times you wonder, what would be the reason for that.

Lets look at it this way, why would you come up to the street and protest. One scenario for reaction is that it would start only if the interests of the masses are taken radically or if they are subjugated. But no state or defecto government would do that in a right mind, abruptly. So they do it slowly other wise the reaction can create chaos. That’s the policy of our current defecto government.

Another reason for reaction can be the awareness of the masses of its own rights, especially in the presence of a totally non-independent-corrupted-to-the-core judicial system. But this scenario doesn’t fit well with Pakistan. And we know why, we need more Madaris.

The other scenario is that those who depend on the state for any reason can react if their dependency is disrupted.(this is where the army and political elite and some far right parties backed by petro-dollars comes in to defend their own rights) So this is where we are right now. Just take a deep look inwards, check our families for example, how dependent they are on the state and vise versa. You will find no relationship at all. The same is the behavior of the state per say… The voting percentage can tell a big story about trust and dependency on the state, although education is a vital element in voting.

So lets just not bash the far-right only, we are all in the same “Hmam” and Islam is the only rope that will bring us out of this.

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*Originally posted by MiniMe: *
People are very quick to jump on the far right, since at least, they do stand for some principles, and they are very quick to come to the streets. Its doesn’t mean that the far right has not done any wrong. But lets just not forget, before the eighties all the killing & violence was based on the fundamentalist from left and their global dream of red-secular-semi-communist-Asia.

Lets just make this clear, the majority of Pakistanis are Muslims and “not moderate Muslims”, what you might consider as pathetic might be a clear-cut rule from Allah, and what ever is against that rule is condemned in newspapers and media and on the streets.

The reason we have seen so little reaction to what ever goes on in Pakistan in general is very strange. What ever may it be, the economy or the political structure, the coming and going of the army-political elite, what ever ….on the streets you would see very little reaction. Some times you wonder, what would be the reason for that.

Lets look at it this way, why would you come up to the street and protest. One scenario for reaction is that it would start only if the interests of the masses are taken radically or if they are subjugated. But no state or defecto government would do that in a right mind, abruptly. So they do it slowly other wise the reaction can create chaos. That’s the policy of our current defecto government.

Another reason for reaction can be the awareness of the masses of its own rights, especially in the presence of a totally non-independent-corrupted-to-the-core judicial system. But this scenario doesn’t fit well with Pakistan. And we know why, we need more Madaris.

The other scenario is that those who depend on the state for any reason can react if their dependency is disrupted.(this is where the army and political elite and some far right parties backed by petro-dollars comes in to defend their own rights) So this is where we are right now. Just take a deep look inwards, check our families for example, how dependent they are on the state and vise versa. You will find no relationship at all. The same is the behavior of the state per say… The voting percentage can tell a big story about trust and dependency on the state, although education is a vital element in voting.

So lets just not bash the far-right only, we are all in the same “Hmam” and Islam is the only rope that will bring us out of this.
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Moderate does not imply they are any less Muslims, they just dont believe in massacring and killing innocent Pakistanis, like you are implying... They maybe quiet, but they still constitute the majority, and now matter how hard the mollahs and fundos try to promote extemism, they will never succumb to them.

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I agree with ** PyariCgudia ** on this one, they don't wanna suffer more at the hands of these extremists, but then on the other hand, just giving up hope and doing nothing about the mistreatments of justice is't going to get them any where either, the same old system will keep popping up and the suffering at the hand of these extremists will continue!

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*Originally posted by Spock: *

Moderate does not imply they are any less Muslims, they just dont believe in massacring and killing innocent Pakistanis, like you are implying... They maybe quiet, but they still constitute the majority, and now matter how hard the mollahs and fundos try to promote extemism, they will never succumb to them.
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Dear, I never implied that moderates are any less muslims, I think there is nothing such as moderate muslims. And about believing and supporting those who massacre and kill innocents, as far as I can recall the biggest ever massacre in Pakistani history was done by our dear old army and nationalists. So lets just not go there...

Being quite lead us to where we are right now, so if we believe in some thing we should speak out about it, and if the far right is doing that, there is nothing wrong about it.