Why is Karachi violence not terrorism?

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Lyari gang war claims 15 lives, injures dozens

KARACHI: Armed conflict between two rival groups in Lyari left 15 dead while dozens of others suffered injuries, Express News reported on Wednesday.

The Jhat Pat Market of Lyari became a battleground as the two groups – Baba Ladla and Uzair Baloch gangs – attacked each other with hand grenades, rockets and guns.

“The clash erupted this morning when two gangs exchanged heavy gunfire, later they fired RPGs and lobbed hand grenades at each other,” Senior police official Faisal Bashir told AFP.

He added that there were 15 schoolchildren among the injured.

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A suicide blast that kills 8 in Peshawar or an attack on a court that claims 10 in Islamabad is a barbarian act of terrorism. But a dozen people losing their lives in Karachi on daily basis is a simple case of law and order breakdown. Why?

Bloodshed, extortion, street crimes, kidnappings and target killings have become a hallmark of Karachi yet the Sindh government and its chief minister continue to occupy the moral and political high-ground for the last 6 years. Even a tragedy like Tharparkar is an annual event according to the party which rules the province.

My question is simple. Why only a suicide bombing is an act of terrorism which warrants a military action? Does not Karachi also warrant a military action as the top city of the country losses around a dozen people daily on average? Why not these groups are also declared banned militant organizations along with their political patrons? Why the media soft-pedals Karachi but goes berserk on the TTP?

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Is saadhi pey Kaun na mar jaye Ae khuda

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Karachi needs an army operation. Yes. An operation which is focuses on arm bands and terrorists from all parties and all groups. An operation led by an organization like army which is not under control of provincial government.

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Doesn't FIA have forces or I guess they can provide intel while Rangers act on it.

In the US, it would be the FBI that could get such a case with state and then local police helping along.

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Rival Lyari groups endorse peace deal: Palijo
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HYDERABAD: Leaders of rival groups in Lyari, Uzair Jan Baloch and Baba Ladla, have endorsed a peace declaration to restore peace in the violence-hit area of Karachi, Qaumi Awami Tehreek (QAT) president Ayaz Latif Palijo announced Saturday.

Speaking to journalists at a press conference here attended by respresentatives from both groups, the QAT chief said Uzair Baloch and Baba Ladla endorsed the ceasefire agreement over telephone.

Respresentatives, who Palijo refered to as ‘elders’ of the groups, included MPA Sania Naz Baloch, Adnan Baloch, Arif Bulaidi Baloch and Liaquat Askani Baloch. Maulana Abdul Majeed Sarbazi, Mama Nisar Baloch, Mama Umeed Ali Baloch, Abdul Rasheed Baloch and Rais Ghulam Qadir represented the Baba Ladla group. The delegations reached Palijo House from Karachi and participated in a long discussion in favour of peace in Lyari.

Palijo said that after a detailed discussions among committee leaders of both Lyari groups, it was decided to cease fire immediately.

“I talked to both leaders Uzair and Ladla on phone in detail and they assured me of their full cooperation in restoring peace in Lyari . They have also given powers to me to make all decisions about peace,” he said.

Palijo said that several important decisions were taken and the Lyari Ittehad Committee (LIC), which he will personally head, was formed to implement the decisions.

Members of the LIC will include MPA Sania Naz Baloch, Sir Adnan Baloch, Arif Baloch, Liaquat Baloch, Master Khursheed, Maulana Abdul Majeed Sarbazi, Mama Nisar Baloch, Mama Umeed ali Baloch, Mama Abdul Rasheed Baloch, Rais Ghulam Qadir, Anwer Soomro and Mazhar Raho, he said, adding that the committee had powers to include further members.

Palijo said that both the groups were directed to cease fire and end their differences immediately.

He said that if a member of either group violates the declaration, the main leadership of that particular group will be bound to take action against them.

The QAT president further appealed to all political parties, including the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP), Awami National Party (ANP), Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), the Pakistan Sunni Tehreek (ST), Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) and others to play their role in restoring peace in the troubled area.

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After the truce between Uzair Jan Baloch and Baba Ladla, can we expect Lyari to get calm?

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Agree, the only solution

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DG Rangers Maj Gen Rizwan Akhtar says that Karachi cannot see peace unless 'political umbrella' is taken off from militants.

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Several areas in Karachi have Lyari like situation: DG Rangers

KARACHI: Director General (DG) Rangers Sindh Major General Rizwan Akhtar has said that additional power, granted to the paramilitary force by Sindh government, was not more than a ‘piece of paper’, Geo News reported.

Addressing the inaugural session of Command and Control Centre in F.B Area, DG Rangers said Sindh government granted additional powers to paramilitary force after Supreme Court’s suo moto notice on August 24, 2011, however, these powers were not more than a piece of paper.

He said Lyari was not the only locality in Karachi with issues, adding there were other areas where the situation was not different from Lyari.

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Pakistan has become a strange state which is verbally offensive but practically defensive and does not believe in proaction. We simply love to let a normal issues become a serious problem and do not react to it until it turns into a crisis. Karachi is slipping away by the day but the leaders believe it’s enough to just tweet “marsooN, marsooN” and then fly to their homeland of Dubai.

MarsooN, marsooN…Sindh na deysooN…na Sindh meiN reh’sooN. :hbk:

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So it's not considered terrorism? Could it have something to do with the legal implications of designating it terrorism according to Pakistani laws?

Haroon Ahmad
DET - U.S. Central Command
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It is seen as violence, not terrorism.

10 people killed in a blast is terrorism
10 people shot dead in Karachi is violence

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True that, an operation whose command is in Provincial Chief hands can not be apolitical. The operation needs to be completely free of political influence, any political party who tries to influence it one way or the other must be prosecuted.

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PPP, MQM, ANP and some religious elements should have a classical 'chitrol' at the hands of the army. That's the only way to move towards a peaceful Karachi. If you see the body language of the police and rangers involved in the operation, they appear to have given up already.