Why is it such a big deal?

[Shikra]

Re: Why is it such a big deal?

True. But men never (well, I've never seen/heard) talk about women spending so much on their clothes etc. So I would be curious to know why women choose to screen other women. Jealousy? Rivalry? I don't know. Again, men don't spend much on themselves compared to how much women spend, so women can't really pick on men. Men don't bother to care about each other what they are wearing, so that's out of question. May be women have too much time on their hands and have nothing better to discuss :p

[kali_billi]

@Afridi786

Women are more critical of other women than men are…you know it’s true.

i know phappe kutnian na ho te

jahaan dekho aik hi baat us ki dress dekhi us ka hairstyle dekha

arey agar itna pasand hai to khud karwa lo beth ke baatain kerne se kia hoga

[Sara516]

@Afridi786

Women are more critical of other women than men are…you know it’s true.

But…why? lol

@kali_billi

wats that supposed to mean i wonder??

its not a cultural problem or is it??

Is this referring to ur last post in citrine’s thread? b/c I just read that.. :aq:

[Afridi786]

@Sara516

But...why? lol

I'm a guy, you really expect to understand why women are the way they are.

[kali_billi]

@Shikra

True. But men never (well, I’ve never seen/heard) talk about women spending so much on their clothes etc. So I would be curious to know why women choose to screen other women. Jealousy? Rivalry? I don’t know. Again, men don’t spend much on themselves compared to how much women spend, so women can’t really pick on men. Men don’t bother to care about each other what they are wearing, so that’s out of question. May be women have too much time on their hands and have nothing better to discuss

exactly!!!

i again agree with u

[Sara516]

@Shikra

True. But men never (well, I’ve never seen/heard) talk about women spending so much on their clothes etc. So I would be curious to know why women choose to screen other women. Jealousy? Rivalry? I don’t know. Again, men don’t spend much on themselves compared to how much women spend, so women can’t really pick on men. Men don’t bother to care about each other what they are wearing, so that’s out of question. May be women have too much time on their hands and have nothing better to discuss

Okay, so this and several other posts explain the pricetag scrutiny.

but what about my first example? that men who wear jeans aren’t considred to be losing their religion or culture…but women who do, are? (this is a question referring specifically to pak)..

and my basic point: that people judge a woman’s character by what she wears but a man’s character is never held to the standards of his clothing . Is that really fair?

i hope u guys get..that i am not tryign to rant or complain but rather get a healthy discussion going… :halo:

[kali_billi]

@Sara516

But…why? lol

Is this referring to ur last post in citrine’s thread? b/c I just read that.. :aq:

yups i was ecpecting u to read it earlier

[kali_billi]

@Sara516

Okay, so this and several other posts explain the pricetag scrutiny.

but what about my first example? that men who wear jeans aren’t considred to be losing their religion or culture…but women who do, are? (this is a question referring specifically to pak)..

and my basic point: that people judge a woman’s character by what she wears but a man’s character is never held to the standards of his clothing . Is that really fair?

i hope u guys get..that i am not tryign to rant or complain but rather get a healthy discussion going… :halo:

again women’s fault

they spend hell lot of time criticising each other they never had time to criticise men

i hope u got my point now

[Lusi]

@Shikra

True. But men never (well, I've never seen/heard) talk about women spending so much on their clothes etc. So I would be curious to know why women choose to screen other women. Jealousy? Rivalry? I don't know. Again, men don't spend much on themselves compared to how much women spend, so women can't really pick on men. Men don't bother to care about each other what they are wearing, so that's out of question. May be women have too much time on their hands and have nothing better to discuss :p

Never...yeah right... you can say not quite often but never and that too in bold is just exaggeration. You guys need to get over praising yourselves.

[Sara516]

@kali_billi

again women’s fault

they spend hell lot of time criticising each other they never had time to criticise men

i hope u got my point now

OKay I think i said this before, i wasn’t trying to make this a man vs woman thing. First of all there is no man-bashing going on here like you claimed. in fact i see more mudslinging at women. second i never asked WHO did the criticisiznig but rather asked WHY. I hope you get my point now

[kali_billi]

Re: Why is it such a big deal?

why???

ask ur self this

who is jealous to see an expensive outfit of a bride

a woman or a man??

who wants the expensive jewels like the one her frined got

men r jaelous but bout different issues like who has better car or stuff like that

but dressing or jewels its a women’s thing

and dont tell me u never got jealous

its human nature

u will hear guys talking bout other guy’s cars or women but not clothes

its non of their bussiness

[Mrs.Shikra]

@Sara516

Why does what a woman wear cause so much ruckus everywhere?

Take Pakis living abroad for example, the first thing people cry about is that they’re dressed in jeans and losing their culture…or girls in pak dn’t wear underwear supposedly… people are upset that someone wears an expensive lengha on her wedding…and let’s not even get started on the 101 complaints about grlz who wear hijabs and the millions of wrong things they do while wearing it (sarcasm alert).

You never hear this many complaints or masla over what a guy wears…if a guy wears jeans he’s not being besharam or losing his culture…the price tag of a guy’s outfit is never under as much scrutiny as the bride’s jora may be..

What a guy wears and what he looks like is never an indication of his moral character, however, the same cannot be said for a woman… simply judging by the clothes she wears people consciously or unconsciously judge that she is a good girl or a bad girl. Is that really be fair?

i just hate this about desi aunties…i mean they are all okay if a girl is wearing a extra tight shirt with kapri style shalwaar and naam ka dapatta…but when a girl is wearing jeans…its like astagfurrallah from them…hypocrites…

[Khumar]

Re: Why is it such a big deal?

dooooood have you seen the designer shiz for men in pakistan? lame designing and kapra, and a simple kurta costs atleast Rs.1500...but guess what...teh guys are so going to buy it! because it's JJ or deepak perwani or whatever. and then the suits here! hugo boss, or armani or whatever. the sunglasses have to be from there. the polo shirts have to be from ralph lauren. no no darzis for them please! atleast the girls don't mind getting knock-offs because they are cheap.

and yeah, why is it a big deal if i wear jeans, and my bro doesn't? atleast i make an effort to look desified on a big day...but it's ok if he wears his jeans and lame tshirt and walk out the door.

[samraali22]

@Sara516

Why does what a woman wear cause so much ruckus everywhere?

Take Pakis living abroad for example, the first thing people cry about is that they're dressed in jeans and losing their culture....or girls in pak dn't wear underwear supposedly... people are upset that someone wears an expensive lengha on her wedding...and let's not even get started on the 101 complaints about grlz who wear hijabs and the millions of wrong things they do while wearing it (sarcasm alert).

You never hear this many complaints or masla over what a guy wears...if a guy wears jeans he's not being besharam or losing his culture...the price tag of a guy's outfit is never under as much scrutiny as the bride's jora may be..

What a guy wears and what he looks like is never an indication of his moral character, however, the same cannot be said for a woman.... simply judging by the clothes she wears people consciously or unconsciously judge that she is a good girl or a bad girl. Is that really be fair?

didnt u notice its only women complaining about other women mostly, sumones personal choices are everyones business

[PureSunlight]

Re: Why is it such a big deal?

so how many men would be okay with letting their daughters, wives, mothers, sisters, etc. dress in a manner that they themselves don't find appropriate???

just curious guys (or girls)???

[Niksik]

Re: Why is it such a big deal?

I think I would like my daughters to dress the way I find appropriate. Not that I am a symbol of perfection by any means, no, but I think that based on standards established by the religion I follow and the traditions I have been taught, I am close enough and feel comfortable in the society I live.

[AnGeL_EyEs]

@Khumar

and yeah, why is it a big deal if i wear jeans, and my bro doesn’t? atleast i make an effort to look desified on a big day…but it’s ok if he wears his jeans and lame tshirt and walk out the door.

good point!

so yea why is that?

[Shikra]

@Sara516

Okay, so this and several other posts explain the pricetag scrutiny.

but what about my first example? that men who wear jeans aren't considred to be losing their religion or culture...but women who do, are? (this is a question referring specifically to pak)..

and my basic point: that people judge a woman's character by what she wears but a man's character is never held to the standards of his clothing . Is that really fair?

I am sure girls would agree that girls are held to tougher values/standards than guys :p While it's okay for boys to stay out late or go out with guys and mothers won't object to that, they will object to the same thing if their daughters want to do that. I am not saying I agree with that because in my opinion, guys and girls both should be held to same standards and be accounted for same values. Otherwise it just frustrates girls because their brothers are free to do whatever they want, as it's obvious from this thread.

And I agree with your 2nd point too. Girls should never be judged by what they are wearing, but desis tend to mix religion with that whole ordeal. They automatically think that if a girl is wearing hijab, she's shareef by default but if she's wearing jeans and t-shirt, she has no shame. Wrong, but unfortunately that's the way it is.

Why? Desi mentality. Hold boys to different standards than girls. If a boy does something bad, he's just a boy. However, if a girl does the same thing, it's an honor issue. She has brought shame to the family. The whole family, muhalla, and community has to get involved and talk about it. It becomes hard to find rishtas for those girls (in Pakistan). That's why parents take tougher measures and are extra careful when it comes to dealing with girls.

@Lusi

Never...yeah right... you can say not quite often but never and that too in bold is just exaggeration. You guys need to get over praising yourselves.

I haven't been hanging with those kind of guys that discuss prices and girls' or men's clothing. And although you noticed the bold parth, you missed the part in the parenthesis, let me bold that as well: (well, I've never seen/heard).

[Serafina_Pekkala]

Re: Why is it such a big deal?

I don't think that is true. Guys are judged by their looks all the time.

[zobia]

Re: Why is it such a big deal?

i like to see good-colorful br-and recognized clothes and light sophisticated jewelry

i believe in spending money on one good dress than spending same amount on ten cheap fabric lousy dresses