Re: Why is it so easy for people to tell others off?
just as a side note, isnt your friend being hypocritical by saying how alcohol is bad for you etc etc if shes comitting Zina. Hypocrisy is a big sin in islam and hypocrites are placed in the lowest level of hell.
as for yourself, the fact that you dont like it when she points out that drinking is a sin etc etc is because your not that far gone yet. deep inside you you probably know that it isnt right and that you shouldnt be doing this which your friend is pointing out for you. in fact you should be happy that your friend, although hypocritical is looking out for you. Imagine on the day of judgement when you get judged for drinking alcohol. your friend gave you a chance to think about drinking and you did not listen to her. In a way, god is giving you a chance to really think about whether you wanna go against him or not.
provided your not very religious, i.e. dont pray eat non-halal, but also dont go adding to the list of things that may be considered a sin by god. lets say sometime down the road you start practising, although you are able to ask for forgiveness for lets say drinking, would you rather have a clean record (in that you havent drank ever) or not.
inshallah your guided by god as to what is right and wrong. and i hope that if you do decide to drink, then it isnt as wow as youd expect and puts you on somewhat of a straight path.
Re: Why is it so easy for people to tell others off?
Why drink anyways? The people I've seen who drink always end up completely out of their senses, doing embarrassing stuff in front of random people and then being sick in the morning with a raging headache and regretting it. Who wants to be so completely out of their mind d that they don't know whether they're wearing clothes or not? And who they're kissing or doing god knows what with? Yeah. Sounds like fun. Really rebellious. Bunch of idiots honestly. You think drinking will make you "mature"? A grown up? You're just making a fool of yourself and shaitan is probably laughing his head off that he got you so easily. Have you no dignity? Pride in yourself? How is this rebellion? Please do answer I'd love to know what makes people do this kind of idiocy. @SummerFruits the friend isn't the only hypocrite. The OP is a hypocrite too. They're deciding to commit a sin and yet points out the sins of their friend. Great friendship that is.
Re: Why is it so easy for people to tell others off?
I’ll just point out that this is NOT what a munafiq (loosely translated as hypocrite) refers to. It is someone who feigns being a Muslim but is something else inside. Some examples of this from the time of Nabi were people who pretended to be Muslim but plotted against them. That’s an example of a munafiq and not for instance someone who prays but may have some other faults.
Re: Why is it so easy for people to tell others off?
Obviously it’s a sin but you’ve never heard of a person having a glass of wine with lunch or dinner? It’s fairly common here in Europe, even during a person’s lunchbreak from work.. People don’t always drink to get drunk..
Most people drink, commit zina etc. because simply put they enjoy it and it gives them pleasure.. Obviously some might start out doing it because of peer pressure etc but they wouldn’t carry on doing it if it wasn’t fun in some way as well.. Unfortunately most things which are bad for us are.. I think it’s less about rebellion and more about that.. they want to feel good..
Re: Why is it so easy for people to tell others off?
Obviously it's a sin but you've never heard of a person having a glass of wine with lunch or dinner? It's fairly common here in Europe, even during a person's lunchbreak from work.. People don't always drink to get drunk..
Most people drink, commit zina etc. because simply put they enjoy it and it gives them pleasure.. Obviously some might start out doing it because of peer pressure etc but they wouldn't carry on doing it if it wasn't fun in some way as well.. Unfortunately most things which are bad for us are.. I think it's less about rebellion and more about that.. they want to feel good..
Yeah I've heard how Europe drinks. The French drink along with food. The Brits however are known for their binge drinking ways. I see it all the time here. How is that pleasurable? Its just idiocy.
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I like how so many people on this thread assume that I am drinking because of peer pressure and the others for thinking I am arrogant. Found it amusing ;)
It actually turned out to be one of the best nights I had in a long time. Drank enough to give me a nice buzz but not so much that I would lose my senses or have no control over myself.
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I like how so many people on this thread assume that I am drinking because of peer pressure and the others for thinking I am arrogant. Found it amusing ;)
It actually turned out to be one of the best nights I had in a long time. Drank enough to give me a nice buzz but not so much that I would lose my senses or have no control over myself.
Do elaborate. I am genuinely curious how being hazy is considered fun?
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For a night of momentary 'fun' you compromised your relationship with your Creator.
it really saddens me when i read such things. Whether your religious or not you cant deny that one day you will die, this world is temporary, if you allow urself to cross boundries you will find that it will become easier to commit more sins.. Dont let urself drown, instead of taking offence to ur friend you should use the opportunity to save her.. Tell her how zina is wrong- ur clearly aware of it.
The rest is upto, if you believe that this 'fun' is worth it then continue but never forget Allah is always watching & one day we will face Him. Thats all
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Why on earth would you interpret religious bigotry as pertaining to muslims alone. There are plenty of hindu muslim Jewish christian Sikh etc bigots.
Since a point was made abt drinking I was restrict nylon my comment to excess of anything is bad.
I apologise for taking your comment the wrong way. Thanks for clarifying :) and yeah I do agree excess of anything is always bad. Hope I didn't offend you.
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Actually people weren't assuming you were drinking out of arrogance. The arrogance assumption was because despite a friend giving you good advice you ignored it because you saw her as a sinner and therefore any advice from her meaningless. That's arrogance.
Anyways glad you had a great time. For a drink you gave away your soul? If that's not insanity I don't know what is. Hope its still worth it on a Day when we're all standing together and unable to regret or take anything back.
“An unbeliever will be brought on the Day of Resurrection and will be asked. 'Suppose you had as much as gold as to fill the earth, would you offer it to ransom yourself?' He will reply: 'Yes'. Then it will be said to him, 'You were asked for something easier than that [to join none in worship with Allah (i.e., to accept Islam, but you refused)]." (Al-Bukhari)
Re: Why is it so easy for people to tell others off?
For a night of momentary 'fun' you compromised your relationship with your Creator.
it really saddens me when i read such things. Whether your religious or not you cant deny that one day you will die, this world is temporary, if you allow urself to cross boundries you will find that it will become easier to commit more sins.. Dont let urself drown, instead of taking offence to ur friend you should use the opportunity to save her.. Tell her how zina is wrong- ur clearly aware of it.
The rest is upto, if you believe that this 'fun' is worth it then continue but never forget Allah is always watching & one day we will face Him. Thats all
What's sad is this person says that they are Muslim. And obviously Allah must have seen something in them that was special enough that He blessed them to be Muslim. When people take that and just throw it away its just tragic. I will never be able to understand these people. May Allah save us from ever wronging ourselves so badly we lose sight of the Truth and the end goal. Ameen.
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I apologise for taking your comment the wrong way. Thanks for clarifying :) and yeah I do agree excess of anything is always bad. Hope I didn't offend you.
No you didnt. Apology not necessary. As I pointed out in the next post, I can see why you thought I was speaking about muslims alone. Since this thread was about muslims.
(Sometimes I forget which thread I am in). Most times actually
Re: Why is it so easy for people to tell others off?
Guys I think this person is trolling. For a person, who has never had a drink before in their life, all of a sudden goes out drinking and says the cliché movie line, "it was the best night of my life." Ehhh it doesn't add up. My Christian friends who first drank did not have this reaction, in fact many didn't even like the taste of alcohol. I think it's something you have to get used to.
were people who pretended to be Muslim but plotted against them. That’s an example of a munafiq and not for instance someone who prays but may have some other faults.