Why is India blaming Pakistan when it has no idea who is responsible for the bombing?

India yet again continues to blame Pakistan for the bombing in Bombay.

Why?

It has no proof that the bombers were from Pakistan.

The forensic evidence has shown that the bombers could not have been LeT members.

Kashmiri Groups have never targetted Indians discriminately. They have either targetted Indian Military personnel or extreme Muslim groups to avenge the blood letting Gujrat and Kashmir have targetted Hindus like the attack on the Hindu Religious sites.

India has a very shabby track record when it comes to terrorism as it has repeatedly pretended to be victims of terrorism to curry favours with the West such as the murder of 30 Sikhs who were killed by Indian security forces before the arrival of Bill Clinton in March 2000 or the hi-jacking of the Indian Airlines in 2000.

Both events were desigend to get maximum coverage and blame Pakistan for these acts, but even Bill Clinton in his autobiography blamed India for orchastrating these acts.

Pakistan’s F-16 Deal is being approved in congress, the Radical Hindu Parties have lost popular support among their base in India.

Could this terrorist act could have been done by Radical Hindus or even elements from the Indian government such as the BJP to roll back the peace process, paint Pakistan as a terrorist sponsoring nation, and rile up the Hindus?

The bombing resmebles Madrid and London attacks and could have been designed to show to the West that Indian blood is also being spilled in this War on Terrorism.

My own conclusion is as follows:

Pakistan was not behing this act as Pakistan gains nothing from this. Kashmiri Groups were not behind this act as they never take their fight outside Kashmir and nor do they target random Indians indiscriminately but keep to specific targets within the Indian Forces or Hindus.

This act could have been the work of Maoist Insurgents fighting in Orissa or even of radical Hindus who wanted to casgate Pakistan and rile up support.

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Nice way of summing it all up.
Those are well thought out arguments. I would just add one more that to the one who are anti about the above argument by merc remember keep it balanced.
That if the pakistan was behind this act think the way merc is explained above even that can be true.

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Its all in the belief. Pakistan is known to harbour terrorist. Ask your own govt. my dear. May be they will declassify some of the information just for you. :hoonh:

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The 1993 blast master mind, the mafia don is hiding in Pakistan and ISI and Pakistan government is helping him. What do you think Indians should think of Pakistan.

What forensic evidence shows that bombers could not have been LeT. Also everone knows there are more than 1 terrorist group operating from Pakistan.

Terrorists are terrorist. They do care for any human life. They do not want India Pakistan relations to hamper their motives. There had been, athough not significant but some progress in India Pakistan relations (In trade and travel etc). Also they are not liking the fact that India is doing so well. They had to do something about it.

Please do not talk of India's record on terrorism. The world knows a lot about - who is who.

If these attacks are indeed from Pakistan (which luckily they seem to be), then there will not be much tension between hindu and muslims. Hindus in India are peace loving and very understanding and more that anything they care about the Nation. I am sure cannot be Hindu hardliner group. Yes SIMI's involment cannot be denied, but with some out side help.

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No need to shout here, if you want it to highlight simply make it bold… and be clear what you want to convey. You are suggesting as if India does not belong to Muslims :hoonh:

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There you go, you said it, but then later on you discredit yourself.

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I made it bold, Thats what I did.
Read carefully. You will know what I mean. I am not suggesting what you want people to believe. Do not put your words in my mouth.

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Captain1 i know they are referring to whom, I dont have to argue well i tell this people only this

Apni aukad batadi inhone.

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Using caps lock = Shouting

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Read carefully. You will know what I mean. I am not suggesting what you want people to believe. Do not put your words in my mouth.
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"You are suggesting as if" do not equal to putting words in someone's mouth.

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India has orchastrated terrorist acts on its own and blamed it on Pakistan

look at the sikh massacare in kashmir or the hi-jacking of indian airlines

Kashmiri Groups do not operate in this way and Pakistan does not gain anything from these kinds of attacks

India gains everything and even the whole set up looks very much like a RAW operation

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Good theory. So 1993 was also done by RAW? And the recent bombing in Delhi and Temples across India also done by RAW?
Really nice theory.

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thanks

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Narayan prove me one unequivocal statement that I have i have supported pakistan. Then surely i will get to know who is Indian or not.
I know my friend how patriotic I am i dont have to prove it to you. Get this straight boy it hurts right.
Now understand one thing, I want a proof that Pakistan is done this i dont care if its a muslim country or a non- muslim country. Even if a muslim does such an act i wont mind catching him by the scruff of his neck.
Overall its a life of thousands and not a Muslim.
Please do understand just becase u think ur a hindu dont think u love India more then me. My dear friend get this straight in your heart, and grill it in your brain.
Who is done it will surely be taken for task, I meant if this can be true that pakistan is done it then even the other way can also be true. Where did i support pakistan.
I know so many of my Hindu friends who support pakistan probably you havent come across them, and i have argued with them for that.

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:rotfl: good sources and knowledge people have

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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19790545-28737,00.html

Terrorist strike puts Pakistan on the spot
This week’s deadly Mumbai attacks have rattled the Indian subcontinent, writes Bruce Loudon

July 15, 2006
TO a senior Indian analyst these are “difficult and dangerous days”, and who, in the aftermath of the devastation and carnage wrought by terrorist bombers attacking the suburban train system in Mumbai, the country’s teeming business and commercial metropolis, can doubt the accuracy of his assertion?
In the days since the attack, what has become clear is that the world’s largest democracy is under assault by the same evil forces of terrorism that are threatening so much of the rest of the world.

And how the Government of the scholarly and erudite Prime Minister Manmohan Singh handles this attack is going to profoundly affect India’s stellar performance as a growing economic powerhouse that is attracting investment from across the world.

Mumbai’s bombs, in themselves, were bad enough. Two hundred people killed, another 800 injured. The terrorists, assumed to be from the militant Islamic terrorist movement Lashkar-e-Toiba, aligned to al-Qa’ida and working with the Students Islamic Movement of India, could hardly have attacked a city with a higher profile, the hub of the nation’s economy as well as the base of its globally popular Bollywood film industry.

But the concern must be that, as with terrorism everywhere, there may be more to come. India, with its overwhelming Hindu majority, is being increasingly identified in al-Qa’ida propaganda as a target for jihadists loyal to the murderous madness espoused by Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Previously al-Qa’ida had a “crusader/Zionist” enemy in its sights. Now, it seems, what it is targeting is a “crusader/Zionist/Hindu” enemy. And for a country as vast and diverse as India, that is a salutary new aspect to al-Qa’ida’s tactics. To add to the concern, there are reports claiming that, for the first time, al-Qa’ida is launching itself directly into the conflict in Kashmir.

The influential New Delhi newspaper The Asian Age has said that in messages since the bombing to media outlets in Srinagar, Kashmir’s summer capital, a spokesman for an organisation identified as “al-Qa’ida Jammu and Kashmir” has called on Indian Muslims to take up jihad, saying the jihadists are “encouraged by the success” of the Mumbai atrocity.

The spokesman is reported to have justified the terrorism as “a reaction to what is happening to minorities, especially Muslims, in India”, a reference to the fact that India has a Muslim population of 140 million, the largest in any country outside Indonesia.

There is little doubt that the claim of direct involvement by al-Qa’ida will worry those who believe India and its Hindu majority are increasingly in the sights of bin Laden.

Until now it has been Lashkar-e-Toiba and a range of other jihadist organisations that have been fighting in Kashmir, operating as surrogates within the context of al-Qa’ida’s global campaign of Islamic terrorism. Intelligence sources believe, however, that al-Qa’ida may now be seeking to intensify pressure on India.

Perhaps significantly, the claims of heightened al-Qa’ida involvement came on what is observed in the state as martyrs’ day, the anniversary of the day in 1931 when 22 Muslims were gunned down outside Srinagar central jail.

In itself, the reported moves by al-Qa’ida and its surrogates are portentous. In the context of always fragile relations with neighbouring Pakistan, they are even more so for, as always, the Indian suspicion is that its neighbour is, by design or default, complicit in any terrorist act within Indian territory.

A longstanding plan for high-level talks aimed at ironing out differences between India and Pakistan has been put on indefinite hold. The talks were due to take place next week, but in the present tense atmosphere they seem unlikely to go ahead, according to New Delhi television news reports.

Predictably, the Indian media is in full flight with accusations of Pakistani involvement in the attack, and one of the country’s leading newspapers, the Hindustan Times, has accused Islamabad’s all-pervasive security agency, Inter-Services Intelligence, of having masterminded the Mumbai attacks.

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“A senior intelligence officer said the synchronised explosions had the hallmark of an ISI operation,” the Hindustan Times reported. And it quoted him as adding: “A lot of planning went into the blasts. This is typical of an ISI operation.”

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Pakistan has emphatically denied the claims and denounced the bombings. President Pervez Musharraf was quick off the mark in offering help in the investigation. And he has declared that Pakistan will do everything to stamp out terrorism.

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Subcontinental suspicions about the ISI, however, run deep, for it has a history of playing an underhand role in regional politics and has been accused of double dealing with the Taliban as well as with al-Qa’ida and the hunt for bin Laden.

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Indeed, the assurances by Musharraf that he will do everything to destroy terrorists based in Pakistan are unlikely to have much impact at the moment. In advance of a visit to Mumbai by Singh yesterday, the country’s top security adviser was reported to have briefed the cabinet on Pakistan’s possible role.

There is no doubt that if a Pakistani hand is, in fact, found to be behind the Mumbai blasts, this will severely test recent strides towards a rapprochement between the two countries.

The mood in India is uncompromising, according to most analysts. The depth of anger over the blasts is profound and the widespread belief is that the Government should seriously strengthen its stance on terrorism, even if this is at the cost of improving ties with Pakistan.

Suggestions that al-Qa’ida is more directly involved will add considerably to this pressure, since the belief is that increasing terrorism in South Asia results from Pakistan’s failure to get to grips with jihadists operating from its territory.

The widely admired Singh is seldom given to tough talking, but he has left no one in any doubt about his depth of feeling and has emphatically declared that India will not kneel before terrorist threats. The country, he has said, would spare nothing in its fight against those responsible for the blasts.

It is a stance that will have widespread support, for the feeling is that the blasts were a line in the sand as far as India’s fight against terrorism is concerned and that from now on the country will do everything to defeat the bombers, be they from al-Qa’ida, Lashkar-e-Toiba or any other similar movement.

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** “A senior intelligence officer said the synchronised explosions had the hallmark of an ISI operation,” **

That senior intelli moron should also know that ISI is responsible for every Indians conception… LOL…

http://india.indymedia.org/en/2001/12/443.shtml

the only things they have not blamed ISI in the last decade is for the rat plague in New Delhi in 1994 and for Rabri Devi being elected as CM of Bihar.

India has a history of being quick on the gun to blame Pakistan for its own “dirty tricks”, “Ganga” being blown up in Lahore by Indian RAW in 1971 is once concrete example. A few weeks ago an Indian Airlines aircraft remained “hijacked” for 4 hours before it was discovered that the flight had no hijackers, they had probably missed the flight but no one told the cockpit or the cabin crew. The cockpit crew thought the “hijackers” were in the cabin, the cabin crew thought likewise they were in the cockpit.

** In the meantime senior Indian officials, including a junior minister, told the media that the hijackers were Pakistani since they had heard their “Urdu” conversation over radio. Of such stuff are “facts” created to scandalize Pakistan. **

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Exactly right. If we look at "what Pakistan gained out of these bombings and how this, if were to be engineered from Pakistan, could jeopardize Pakistan's interests" it becomes very obvious that it could not have been done or supported by Pakistan.

I am impressed with macc's comments. Very nicely organized post. You are right. Bil Clinton admitted that those were orchestered by India itself........

Hindus will try their utmost to harm Pakistan in any way. This is what they have been doing since the last 58 years.

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I would have to come back to my bashing mode to dig out references that prove India is a hub of terrorist activities.
You are awaking a sleepy lion here :grumpy:

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I wish ISI was half as good no make that one tenth… :rotfl:

Authorities in India frequently blame ISI for anything that goes wrong in the country ranging from insurgency to climatic changes to cover their own inefficiency and rampant corruption in India.