Why I should not publish a book

[Amal]

It’s difficult at times, but generally it’s good not to bear out any fantasy about one’s person. I therefore think of myself lucky for I do not have any illusion about my writing skills. There are many people around on GS who keep insisting that I should bundle my stuff into a book, but I always maintain that my stuff is not that of a book standard. Today I give you one such example which will prove me right and I am sure no one after this will ever ask me to publish a book

A ghazal of mine was posted on GS some time ago. It was than picked by some unknown person and was publish on another board. It was posted in Experts Forum of that board but the moderator moved it to Novice Forum, saying:

ghazal ke sabhi asha’ar vazn mein na houne ki vajha se is post ko naye sho’ara section mein muntaqil kiya jaa raha hai.

Than this moderator forwarded this ghazal to a respected ustaad sahab who very kindly corrected my unbalanced ghazal. The moderator than re-posted the ghazal in Novice Forum saying:

…leejiye aapki ghazal ko Ustad-e-mohtaram ---- saahib ne jo chouti si islaah chaahti thi sahi kerdiye hain aur main ise dobara yehan paish ker rahi hoon…ab aap chaein to ise Experts Forum mein post kar sakti hein.

I ran into this scene unfolding on the board and it further boosted my belief that I still need to correct my basics and as far as question of a book is concerend, it should not surface again

I am posting both versions of the ghazal to judge yourself.

Text in black color is origianl ghazal and red is corrected version by Ustad-e-mohtaram.

Kabhi ye aaNkheiN udaas ho kar bheeg jaaeiN to laot aana
zard december ki sard shaameiN agar sataaeiN to laot aana
kabhi ye aaNkheiN udaas ho kar jou bheeg jaaeiN to laot aana
tumhaiN december ki sard shaameiN agar sataaeiN to laot aana

hum isi jaga par roz aa kar tumhaara rasta takaa kareiN gey
tumhey naey shehar ki nai hawaeiN raas na aaeiN to laot aana
hum is jaga par tou roz aa kar tumhaara rasta takaa kareiN gey
tumhey naey shehr ki hawaeiN na raas aaeiN to laot aana

kisi ki baateiN buri lageiN to suno wahaN pae zara na rukna
kisi ki aaNkheiN agar tumhaari haNsi urraaeiN to laot aana
kisi ki baateiN buri lageiN to suno wahaN pe zara na rukna
kisi ki aaNkheiN agar tumhaari haNsi uRaaeiN to laot aana

naey sapney lageiN na apney to puraney sapney hi orrh lena
par dooryoN ki taveel raateiN har roz jagaaeiN to laot aana
tumhare sapney lageiN na apney to phir puraney hii paas rakhna
jou dooryoN ki taveel raateiN sadaa jagaaeiN to laot aana

mehak ki rut meiN behak ke humdum raastoN ko kho na dena
wafaa ke jugnu jab bhi tum ko sadaa lagaaeiN to laot aana
mehak ki rut meiN behak ke humdum reh-e-muHabbat ko kho na dena
wafaa ke jugnu kabhi jou tum ko sadaa lagaaeiN to laot aana

gar baadloN meiN ghir gaey to hamaari yadeiN tang kareiN gi
jab baarishoN ke shareer mosam dil jalaaeiN to laot aana
ghamaoN meiN gar ghir gaey to shayad hamaari yadeiN hii saath deN gi
jou baarishoN ke shareer mosam bhi dil jalaaeiN to laot aana

naey dinoN ki nai khushbu bohat mubaarak ho tum ko lekiN
gaey dinoN ki puraani yaadeiN lahu rulaaeiN to laot aana
naey dinoN ki nafees khushbu bohat mubaarak ho tum ko lekiN
gaey dinoN ki puraani yaadeiN lahu rulaaeiN to laot aana

jisam aur rooh ka ajeeb rishta najaaney kis dum toot jaey
suno tumheiN hum jo aek pal ko kabhi bulaaeiN to laot aana!
yeh jism o jaaN ka ajeeb rishta najaaney kis waqt toot jaey
suno tumheiN hum jou aek pal ko kabhi bulaaeiN to laot aana!

[Azad]

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humaray khayal main aap ko kitab ka sirf sochna chorr kar ab amal ki abteda kar dayni chahiayi. koi bhi chapnay se pehlay galban ustad hazrat tak nok palak drost karwate hi hain.

zahir hay akhri faisla aap ka hi hay, hum to kahain ge bismillah.

[ghazal_kisi_ke]

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.. Amal bahii mujhe to apke writing zyada behtar lag rahe hai ..aik do edited shers better hain per i still think that you should publish you book .. agree with azad .. it is still beautiful .. per again as Azad said *“zahir hay akhri faisla aap ka hi hay, hum to kahain ge bismillah” .. *

[Golden_Scorpion_1]

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Amal ....

First of all, Personaly I would not take Decision on one poem, if you should Publish the book or not.
The poem You have posted, along with the correction, I would say..... Its very good Poem... The Problem with this poem is.... In Comon Words.... LAFZOOON KI RAWANI kam hay... and... In TECHNICAL language.... iss ki TAQTEE maiN masla hay....

As a very good Poet, I am sure you will know about the TAQTEE of Poems.... I you check your poems with the already Mentioned Rules of the Taqtee you would be able to correct your poems by your self without giving it to some USDAT GI for corection ( Although I would always Recomned Usdat for Correction)

SO... The Bottom line ... of wat I said :D

Offcourse You should Go for a Book, Collect your poems, Compare it with Taqtee, and then Give it to some USTAD gi for More Correction if necessary. And then Publish it.

To be a Poet what Actualy Counts is your Ideas.... Imagination.... And you have it..... The Rest.... Qafia, Wazan, rawani etc are secondry stuff Jo Practice se aajati haiN :)

So.. My VOTE for.... PUBLISH a BOOK :D

[Dilsay]

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Amal jee,

Main nahi janta ka mujahay comments danay behi chahiyan ka nahi aap bahtar jantay hoo. Baas dill main ak baat hai jo zaroor kahoon ga kiy ya zaroori hai ka hum auroon kee marzi say kuch karain. Agar aap ka dill karta hai aur kahta hai ka aap ko book publish karnee chahhiya tu zaroor karain aur phir dekhain ka kitnay log hain jo us ko phartay hain. Baas main itna he kahoon ga...

[Koyal]

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^^ you are right dilse per kia karen waday loko k aik nakhray aur aik baar baar kahlwana in ka shava hia…suchi baat kaho tu karwi hai na Amal but u know koyal mu phut:p bak bak kar jati

PS: koyal ka dosray masoom logo se kia muqabla hia na

[Koyal]

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@Golden Scorpion

Amal …

First of all, Personaly I would not take Decision on one poem, if you should Publish the book or not.
The poem You have posted, along with the correction, I would say… Its very good Poem… The Problem with this poem is… In Comon Words… LAFZOOON KI RAWANI kam hay… and… In TECHNICAL language… iss ki TAQTEE maiN masla hay…

As a very good Poet, I am sure you will know about the TAQTEE of Poems… I you check your poems with the already Mentioned Rules of the Taqtee you would be able to correct your poems by your self without giving it to some USDAT GI for corection ( Although I would always Recomned Usdat for Correction)

SO… The Bottom line … of wat I said

Offcourse You should Go for a Book, Collect your poems, Compare it with Taqtee, and then Give it to some USTAD gi for More Correction if necessary. And then Publish it.

To be a Poet what Actualy Counts is your Ideas… Imagination… And you have it… The Rest… Qafia, Wazan, rawani etc are secondry stuff Jo Practice se aajati haiN

So.. My VOTE for… PUBLISH a BOOK

Golden baji koi faida nahi bhanse k agay been bajanay ka ap ka bhashan koi kaam karnay wala nahi hia na Amal ..bhashan usay day koi jis pe asar ho

[Amal]

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@Golden Scorpion

Amal …

First of all, Personaly I would not take Decision on one poem, if you should Publish the book or not.
The poem You have posted, along with the correction, I would say… Its very good Poem… The Problem with this poem is… In Comon Words… LAFZOOON KI RAWANI kam hay… and… In TECHNICAL language… iss ki TAQTEE maiN masla hay…

As a very good Poet, I am sure you will know about the TAQTEE of Poems… I you check your poems with the already Mentioned Rules of the Taqtee you would be able to correct your poems by your self without giving it to some USDAT GI for corection ( Although I would always Recomned Usdat for Correction)

SO… The Bottom line … of wat I said

To be a Poet what Actualy Counts is your Ideas… Imagination… And you have it… The Rest… Qafia, Wazan, rawani etc are secondry stuff Jo Practice se aajati haiN

So.. My VOTE for… PUBLISH a BOOK

Frankly speaking, I do not know what is Taqtee. This is perhaps that I never had any ustaad. Whatever I write, I learnt all by my own self. Perhaps that’s why I am weak on my basics. To me, the most important thing, as you have also mentioned, is rawaani or flow. Qafia is a must without which there is no ghazal. So it goes without a mention. I have seen a few articles on technial matters of writing a ghazal, but they are too technical. I would talk about them in a separate thread.

What I know about me is that I am good enough to post my work here and have my share of fans. Those who insist for a book are people who are reading me for several years. But I know what they demand of me is not possible.

Rahi baat ustaadoN ki, to ustaadoN ke hawaaley sey mera experience aur mera mushaheda kuch ziaada acha nahi hey. Taseeh ki aek choti si misaal aap ko bataaoN ke aek baar aek dost ke zarye sey Amjad Islam Amjad ki aek nazm merey haath lagi jo kaheiN publish nahi hui thi kiuNke wo nazm sirf 2 din pehley hi likhi gai thi. Merey us dost ney yuNhi wo ghazal aek website par aek ustaad ko dikhaai to unhoN ney kaha ke “is ka to koi sar, peir hi nahi hey, is par bohat kaam karna parrey ga.” Kuch arsey baad wo nazm Amjad sahab ney juN ki tooN apni aek kitaab meiN shaaya bhi kar di aur in fact aek mushaarey meiN usey parrha bhi. Aap samajhtey heiN ke Amjad sahah kuch aesa likheiN ge jis ka koi sir, peir hi na ho? Ya phir wo aesa kuch apni kisi kitaab meiN shaaya kareiN ge ya kisi mushaerey meiN parrheiN ge?

Taseeh aek intehaai peicheeda masla hey. As I said, I will open a new thread to discuss some technical issues of writing. Thanx for your input by the way

[Golden_Scorpion_1]

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:) I totaly Agree with Ustaad wala part... :)

Historuy is full of such Events... Not even with Poetry but other Art as well, specialy Paintings, Hamari tarha ka Artist agar koi Painting Banaye tou Ustaad sahibaan itna GhaseeTenagy ke.. Ye Theek naheeN...wo Theek naheeN...... and... If.... Ussi Painting pe... Sadqain... Picasoo.... Michel Angelo... Etc etc ka naam likh ke kissi Gallery maiN laga do tou.... they will not Dare Criticise... Then they will Just Parise.... Wah... Kia Strokes haiN.... Wah... Kiss Khoobsorat and Mukhtalig tareeqay se Shades dalay haiN... :D

So.. its part of the Game... ye sab chalta hay...

Thanks to You for Reading my input... alhtough I know... I am neiether a Poet nor I know the Technicalities :)

[Golden_Scorpion_1]

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@Koyal

Golden baji koi faida nahi bhanse k agay been bajanay ka ap ka bhashan koi kaam karnay wala nahi hia na Amal ..bhashan usay day koi jis pe asar ho

Cuckoo MamooN… As U know.. ke… Bolna meri Aadat hay… ab Aadat se Majboor hooN tou kia karooN

[DADDU]

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dost main to sirf itna kahoonga ke ager justsaju ho to karo. aaik baat meri zaroor yaad rakhna main tumse kaai zaida pehley se shaairi kar raha hoon aur ye baat bhi hai ke meri kisi ghazal ya shaairi ko kisi ne correct karne ke koshish nahi ki kiyoun ke har likhne waale ki soch alage aur pardhne waale ke soch alag hoti hai. itna zaroor kahoonga ke koi kisi ka ustaad nahi hai aur na ho sakta hai. tum ko kisi ne ya to ghalat kaha hai ke kisi ustaad ne tashreeh ki hai ya tum khud he jaante ho ke main kia samajh raha hoon.

aur doosri baat ya hai ke ager tum kisi mashoor shaair ke asli shaairi bardho to tum ko andaza hoga ke kaafi ghazalain bakwaas bhi hain jisko tum khud he behter keh saktey ho jo shaaiya hui kitaaboon main pardha jaata hai wo sirf chuni hui ghazalain hoti hain jo achi hogi wo he likha jaata hai taake likne waale ke shohrat ho. ager har ghazal likh di jaaye to bauhat aam se baat ho jaati hai. ager tum ko kitaab shaaya he karna hai to karo doosroon logoon ke haami ki imdaad mat hasil karo. youn to meri kaafi ghazalain kaai jagahon par hain jo loog apne apne naam se likh letey hain aur kuch to gaa bhi letey hain mager jab mere paas dariya hai to mujhye khatrey khatrey idhar udhar hone ka koi afsoos nahi hai. you do what you feel like doing leave the rest to the creator of your mind.

[Amal]

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@DADDU

…you do what you feel like doing.

Thanx for your input DADDU, but tell me can you always do whatever you want to do? The point in discussion is a book by me, but I think it generally concerns every writer. I agree with you that everone has his own style of writing and reading, but that’s something which is not understood by those who are in a position of passing judgment. We tend to put every creation to the sword of set rules, completely ignoring the fact that art cannot be controlled by rules. I will disscuss my points in details in another thread.

GS, you also have truth on your side. A creation by me could be branded waste but if the same things gets the label of someone else, it could be a masterpiece

[Koyal]

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@Amal

Thanx for your input DADDU,

kuj out put waloon noo ve kah do waday loko:rolleyes:

[DADDU]

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Yes I can dost I am in control of my own Desires I do not care what other says because I can not be changed by others and I can not change others. our views of what we do is based on our own thoughts. if we follow others point of view then we are not what we want to be. you only get one life to live and live. and that has your name on it. nobody will die with you or for you. so why care about what others think.

main to khud apni he takdeer likha karta hoon
raas duniya ka koi faisla aaya na mujhey

kaam aayga mere wo he jo saaya hai mera
humsafar ban ke koi raah dikhaya na mujhey

[GuL-e-Tasbeeh]

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Tell me three Valid reason for not to publish your book :~)

[_Masoom_Muskaan]

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amal bhaee book publish kervae toh merei ko beh behg deana:blush:

[Mindless]

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Amal as somebody said already ke before publishing the book kisi poet se check karai jaa sakti hai just for YOUR satisfaction, (we are already satisfied :p) so your excuses are useless :D