Assalaam u 'Alaikum Sentinel,
** Why ** have the 2 threads on “Wahhabism” been ** locked ** ??
** NOONE ** could ** DEFINE ** “Wahhabism”.
Instead, all that they came up was a bunch of lies and subjective statements that are too supernatural to be even included in fairy tales, let alone verify them.
** Noone ** could come with any ** objective ** definition of “Wahhabism”.
The ** term “Wahhabism” ** is used to describe ** just about any ** group or scholar that people disagree with. It is used to label the Suicide bombers in Israel (who are not “Wahhabis” ), or the Taliban (who are not “Wahhabis”). Someone actually said that even ** Sheikh Qaradawi ** is regarded a ** “Wahhabi” ** !!! Man, that is the limit. I could have never even imagined that Sheikh Qaradawi would have ever been called a “Wahhabi” (esp. keeping in mind that he supports some Sufis too ). I think, what would have happened is that he might have spoken out against some Bid’ah (innovation in religion ) or Shirk (associating partners with Allah), and he might have been labelled a “Wahhabi” then.
Then, ** Faraz ** would quote from one “Wahhabi” site to prove his views, and then would bash the “Wahhabis” on another site, and after repeated requests to explain his odd-behavior, he just avoided answering that.
He ** doesn’t ** even have the ** basic knowledge ** about the “Wahhabis” . His post contained references to Sheikh 'Uthaymeen and Sheikh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, which should be enough to give the “Wahhabi” label, but instead when I asked him why he posted from a “Wahhabi” web-site , he replied by saying something like, ** "How do you know it’s a Wahhabi website " ? !!! ** This is supposed to such a ** basic thing ** , but he was ** ignorant ** of that.
But, inspite of that, he didn’t hesitate to spread nasty lies over nasty lies.
Some others too bashed the “Wahhabis”, all without explaining just exactly ** WHAT ** is “Wahhabism”.
After having ** failed ** to define “Wahhabism”, Someone (faceup) said that the Saudis, with their oil money, have removed those sites from the net, that expose true “Wahhabism”. ** How stupid ** can it get??
There are ** tons of anti-“Wahhabi” sites ** on the net. Why couldn’t the Saudis get rid of that?
Are you saying that the ** Saudi Royal Family ** could actually ** remove ** the websites that display the ** true teachings ** of “Wahhabism”, but ** FAILED ** to remove those sites that are ** targetted AGAINST the Saudi Royal Family ??? **
What kind of ** absurd logic ** is this ???
After having failed to define “Wahhabism”, is this the best you can do ???
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Let me tell you a ** bit about **** MY STORY **** **
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** EVEN I USED TO BE A “WAHHABI”-BASHER !!! **
And I used to mention about the “Wahhabis” with great disdain. This was because of ** misinformation ** that was spread by some people who ** DIDN’T ** want to conform to ** authentic Islam. **
I would discuss with people and make the ** fun of the “Wahhabis” **, and ** some people ** would try ** explaining ** to me that you can’t just have such views ** about an entire people. **
I also did a little research on the internet. And obviously, I’d come across a lot of anti-“Wahhabi” propaganda, and it did affect my attitude toward the “Wahhabis”.
** However, ** one thing that I did find ** COMMON ** to almost all the ** “Wahhabi”-Bashers ** was that they would ** NOT ** be ** LOGICAL **, and they would ** AVOID defining ** “Wahhabism”. I ** DON’T ** remember any “Wahhabi”-Basher ** QUOTING ** from the books of Imam Muhammad ibn 'Abdul Wahhab and telling me just ** EXACTLY WHAT ** is so ** different ** about the approach of the “Wahhabis”.
** Alhamdulillah ** , I began to ** realize ** that I ** myself ** had a “Wahhabi” approach - I would always wonder if a particular practice or custom was ** authentic ** or not, or whether it was ** approved ** by the ** Holy Prophet (S) ** etc etc. . Also, I ** Alhamdulillah ** began to realize that ** I was actually a “Wahhabi” **, because most of my ** information on Islam ** would be from ** “Wahhabi”/Salafi sources. **
One thing that I found about the ** “Wahhabis” ** is that they were ** VERY LOGICAL AND STRAIGHT-FORWARD **, and their ** explainations and views ** were very ** ClEAR **. I would ** feel at EASE , AND ASSURED ** when I would read their articles or act on them. ** NO IFS OR BUTS, JUST PLAIN, CLEAR, STRAIGHT-FORWARD LOGIC. **
They would ** ONLY ** refer to the ** QUR’AN AND SUNNAH ** and also the views of the ** major Scholars ** in the past and present (and that includes the ** 4 Imams ** too ).
Another thing that I noticed about them is that they would ** NEVER CALL THEMSELVES “WAHHABIS” **. Had it not been for the ** “Wahhabi”-Bashers **, I probably ** could NOT ** have even found out ** IF ** it’s a ** “Wahhabi” source. **
(That maybe one reason why the “Wahhabi”-Bashers, can quote from one “Wahhabi” source in one place, and then bash the “Wahhabis” in another place, because they ** themselves ** are ** NOT AWARE ** that it their source would be labelled as a ** “Wahhabi” source ** by the “Wahhabi”-Bashers. ) This implies to ** Faraz Mir ** on this forum.
But anyways, I was ** reluctant ** in the beginning to ** call myself ** a ** “Wahhabi” **, but, ** Alhamdulillah, **, now I don’t mind if ** I’m labelled ** a “Wahhabi” by those ** who oppose authentic Islam. **
Another ** CRITERIA I used ** to determine the ** Truthfulness ** of ** “Wahhabism” ** was that, the ** Truth ** is always ** opposed **, and those who oppose the Truth ** SPREAD VICIOUS AND MALICIOUS LIES AGAINST IT . This is the reason, ** why ** the ** Kafirs spread vicious lies against Islam . I applied this ** test ** to ** “Wahhabism” **, and it ** PASSED ** the test.
(Someone, actually told me that “Wahhabis” say that you read durood on the Holy Prophet (S) only once in your lifetime, but I found that to be 100% untrue.)
Also, the ** Pagan Arabs ** were very ** concerned and worried ** that ** INSPITE ** of all their ** opposition, VICIOUS LIES against Islam, and their CROOKED PLOTS **, Islam was ** growing ** like ** WILD FIRE. ** The “Wahhabi”-Bashers also ** share the SAME CONCERN **, and those who are labelled as ** “Wahhabis” are increasing like wild fire ** in number.
(Someone actually said that “Wahhabism” is spreading like cancer among the mainstream Muslims (Sunnis), but he was careful not to define “Wahhabism” though !!!)
Another thing that I noticed about the ** “Wahhabis” ** is that ** ANYONE ** could be ** labelled a “Wahhabi”. ** Anyone who would stand up for authentic Islam would be labelled a “Wahhabi”. This ** term ** is ** loosely applied ** to ** different and varying groups . ** So when people are unable to define “Wahhabism” or point out what teachings of their are wrong, but are quick to label different and varying groups as “Wahhabis”, it does imply that they are using the term “Wahhabism” as a ** SCAPEGOAT. **
For example, it’s hard to read a ** Shia article WITHOUT denouncing the “Wahhabis”. ** As an example, in this forum, http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum13/HTML/004674.html , you can read this post under the Title: ** " Is Mourning for Imam Hussain (as) Bidah? " ** :
- " Is Mourning for Imam Hussain (as) Bidah?
This is the common argument of the Ahl’ul Sunnah. Our response is that such rituals have passed through history and were rituals cited in the Bible, the Qur’an and in the practices of the Sahaba.
Part 1 - Textual Proofs
- Christian sources
** The Wahabys will ask ‘why are you quoting Christian sources?’ ** " * <<<<
Now, this is obviously a ** PROFESSIONAL ARTICLE ** written by some ** knowledgable person ** and has been copy-pasted here. Here, do you see the ** subtle and sly ** trick used to ** SCAPEGOAT the “Wahhabis” to justify their beliefs ** and to divide the Mainstream Muslims on ** IMAGINARY lines ??? **
I’m sure there must be many ** misinformed ** people, who are ** “Wahhabi” bashers **, but they may ** ACTUALLY BE “WAHHABIS” THEMSELVES !!! **
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Moderator Sahab, Please tell me one thing: The ** Shias ** were ** bashing ** the ** “Wahhabis”, ** (and also ** Mainstream Islam, Hadeeth etc ** ), and that was ** acceptable BUT ** when someone spoke out ** against the Shias **, it immediately became a ** politically INcorrect ** issue, and the ** threads had to be ** LOCKED ??? **
This reminds me of the ** Jews ** in North ** America ** and Europe. The ** Jews are free ** to speak out ** against anyone BUT IF **, anyone speaks out ** against the Jews, ** he immediately becomes ** ANTI-SEMITIC **, and has to be ** censured !!! **. Then, the ** Jews ** play the ** victimhood game ** - "Oh we are so persecuted, we are a minority, anti-semitism is on the rise , we are so innocent people etc etc.
That’s alright, the ** TRUTH ** is ** ALWAYS PERSECUTED AND LIED AGAINST **. It’s observed that The ** TRUTH ** has to fight ** AGAINST ALL ODDS. **
[This message has been edited by Khoon-e-Shaheed (edited April 16, 2002).]