Kashmiris have grown to hate India. When Kashmiris don’t see themselves as Indian and never did, India needs to realize it and accept it. It’s time.
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Not all Kashmiris though. I personally know someone who is quite patriotic about India even though she is from jammu kashmir and muslim so there are bound to be others. And the reason behind why they won’t give up Kashmir is simple, it is a hidden gem, with kashmir in hand, they control the three main fresh water supply that start from Kashmir and run through Pakistan: Indus, Jehlum, and Chenab rivers.
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I’m talking Kashmir Valley. Jammuites don’t really house Kashmiris that speak Kashur. Jammu might consist of Gujjars, Dogras Paharis, Baltis. The opinions of those in the Kashmir Valley are quite different. India’s done a lot of damage that by now can’t be reversed or forgiven. They’ve done too many cruel acts to 1,000s. It’s best to leave the people of the Valley alone.
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She IS from Kashmir Valley, not a gujjar, baltis or whatever else. Yes, there are many Kashmiris who are still against the forceful occupation of their land but why is it so hard to believe that some are ok with it? National propaganda is part of every country and not all citizens are immune to it. Her family was well off so she never really saw any brutality while she grew up in Kashmir thus her opinion. But as far as I know, her opinion is rare. Any who, I agree with your stance.
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True but if Kashmir goes other states will follow suit
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Brutality of Indian Army is fact but this is also fact that uprising in Indian Kashmir is because of Pakistan’s influence on Hurriyat leader. Pakistan can upset India at any time by using those leaders.
Since last two decades, India normalize situation in larger Kashmir and that probably a reason of change of stance within Kashmiris to look at India.
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Oh bhai…
Khuda ka khouf khao…itna bhi jhoot na bolo..
Itna tu Indian TV walay nahi boltay
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Altaf kaalu k chamchay se kia aur umeed ki ja skti hai
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the way things are going, india is going to lose a lot more than kashmir. i’m starting to see why a smart atheist like jinnah wanted pakistan. nehruvian moderation of half a century is suddenly fading and the real ugly side of cow belt culture is coming out with every passing day.
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A Kashmiri is treated like a terrorist even in states within India and tortured so it’s like how a Kashmiri is treated within the Valley. It feels no different. Apologies, but how dumb are Indian prime ministers, no foresight whatsoever including and most prominently Nehru, boy he really screwed it up for all concerned.
It’s a bit late for them to admit to all the brutalities.
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**Independent Kashmir sounds good and most Kashmirees will go for it too!
Butt 
we already have Azad Kashmir, what will happen with that?
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queer Sahib you not afraid of RAW?
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Azad kashmiris aren’t really ethnic Kashmiris, Koshur speaking. I just want the Valley to be free of all this pain. I want the Indian government to admit that they tortured and killed a lot of the “missing” thousands, burying them in mass graves, covering it up, raping Kashmiri women, and then finally let go of the claim they have over this region. Do they expect anything other than pure anger and hate after doing all that.
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aakhir log kabison aor qatlon ko apna leader kyon banatay hain? I hope such India will brake soon what you predicted.
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mahool bhi the problem is much deeper than what you think. Pakistan’s influence on hurriyat leaders has nothing to do with current uprising in Kashmir valley because hurriyat leaders have no cntrol over people any more . The present uprising in Kashmir is because of the killing of Burhan Muzaffar wani. His shahadat acted as a trigger for the anger that built up due to Indian oppression.This outburst was not planned or governed by hurriyat leaders, it actually came from within the people who turned it into a mass movement in which everybody participated. Burhan’s funeral was attended by hundreds of thousands at 40 different places. So plz stop making such ridiculous statements. NOBODY pelts stones at armed forces under the influence of some xyz leaders, NOBODY chants anti-state slogans in front of armed forces under the influence of others. It takes guts to do all these things and kashmiries are doing it on their own without the influence of Pakistan or hurriyat leaders, ( atleast in current uprising).
I agree some kashmiries are patriotic about India but majority in kashmir valley want freedom from indian occupation which is quite evident from curfews, protests, clashes, extra judicial killings, stone pelting ,social media bans e.t.c in the velly @aqua70
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Agreed.
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@queer! Which is very ironic with India’s recent development and growth!
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Mostar, that is the current issue - a growing economic middle class with income and time to spare, and no growth in social fragmentation aspect. This is stark mostly in the north - hindi speakers seem to not realize india is more than just their language, religion and culture. in fact, the prosperity in $$$ is funneled towards spreading regressive ideologies that had faded somewhat since independence. BJP/RSS has spread the idea that going to hindu religious roots is the same thing as being prosperous as a country. Quite similar to the obsession with implementing islam in muslim countries’ civil societies, this pretty much means the end of tolerance of diverse views, women’s rights, respect for science etc.
and kashmir is pretty much trapped. the valley is more prosperous than other indian states with similar economic output - indian gov has pumped in money for decades to appease the bigwigs in the valley. some of them realized they could get money from pakistan as well on the side. “separatist” leaders like geelani go to london for medical treatment on indian taxpayers’ money, preach violent separatism to the poor kashmiri youth, and sends his own kids to safe schools in india and abroad. also, pro-indian sentiments werent all that unusual in the valley with the educated and employed. they had what seemed like a clear path to a solid life. BJP has shut this pipeline off, and are openly bullying them.
sachaydino, india breaking up will be more bad news for its neighbors. pakistan will end up with one or more neighbors who will be worse than india as a neighbor. it would be good for south india though, right now south indian income generation is bankrolling the low productivity farmers and their loans of bihar and UP - literally people in UP are getting 400 Rs for 100 Rs they pay in in govt schemes, while the south is fleeced. i’m sure you’ve seen this pattern elsewhere too…
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Inshallah Kashmir, it’s a documentary film directed by an Indian, Ashvin Kumar. You should watch it.
Although some Indians say it’s one sided (those that refuse to see reality). It would be good for most Indians to see what exactly happened from 1990 to present day, not from the Indian perspective but the actual truth. They have KPs that stayed back along with Kashmiri muslims speaking about what happened.
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This post is very off topic… ajj konsay walay yaad arahay hian… samjh to gaye hogay kay mian kiya kah raha hon…
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