Ibrahim says: Greetings of peace to one and all
Hey Adbul!
so far as the Qur’an is concerned and as to how and who compiled it .
The Qur’an itself gives the answers .
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75: 16 Move not thy tongue concerning the (Qur’an) to make haste therewith.
17 ** It is for Us to collect it and to promulgate it:**
18 But when We have promulgated it follow thou its recital (as promulgated):
19 ** Nay more it is for Us to explain it (and make it clear):**
Ibrahim says : hence If for any reason you are under the delusion that some goat ate any verse in the Qur’an, I hope you have now realized your folly or misconceptions.
Now in addition to this from the primary source
The secondary source which are the hadiths will attest to the fact the Prophet (pbuh) himself as well as many of his companions FULLY memorized the entire Qur’an which was rehearsed in front of the Angel Gabriel at various times to ensure that the form of transmission of the Qur’an was of two folds.
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by way of memory ( the first and foremost method for scriptures being transmitted in the past)
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by way of written texts ( which was a later stage)
Now let me quote
Ibrahim says: Hence assuming a goat did indeed eat some verse ( nauzubillah) why and ho would the angel loss his memory concerning it?
** Hence goats can be excused for eating anything that they may come across but what is your ( adbul) excuse for spreading folly based on what you came across? **
Ibrahim says: Yes! stoning has been practiced from ancient times as a punishment for mankind. What this signifies is that the punishment is inflicted by many against the accused and the death induced by such an action (stoning) is not the verdict of one but of all
Stoning had been revealed to the Prophet (pbuh) and was practiced as had been practiced by past prophets . ** Here itself lies another evidence as to how not all things revealed to the prophet are not compiled in the Qur’an but may only be understood from the Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh) **
Let us read!
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith Hadith 8.805 Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah Al-Ansari,
‘A man from the tribe of Bani Aslam came to Allah’s Apostle and informed him that he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and bore witness four times against himself. Allah’s Apostle ordered him to be stoned to death as he was a married Person.’
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith Hadith 8.806 Narrated by Abu Huraira
A man came to Allah’s Apostle while he was in the mosque, and he called him, saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! I have committed illegal sexual intercourse.” The Prophet turned his face to the other side, but that man repeated his statement four times, and after he bore witness against himself four times, the Prophet called him, saying, “Are you mad?” The man said, “No.” The Prophet said, “Are you married?” The man said, “Yes.” Then the Prophet said, “Take him away and stone him to death.” Jabir bin 'Abdullah said: I was among the ones who participated in stoning him and we stoned him at the Musalla. When the stones troubled him, he fled, but we over took him at Al-Harra and stoned him to death.
Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 8.816 Narrated by Ibn Abbas
'Umar said, “I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, ** ‘We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book,’ and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. ** Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession.” Sufyan added, “I have memorized this narration in this way.” 'Umar added,** “Surely Allah’s Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him.” **
Ibrahim says: Adullah Yusuf Ali in his translation elaborates: ‘Zina includes sexual intercourse between a man and a woman not married to each other. It therefore applies both to adultery [which implies that one or both of the parties are married to a person or persons other than the ones concerned] and to fornication, which, in its strict sense signification, implies that both parties are unmarried.’ The editors further add, 'Although Zina covers both adultery and fornication, in the opinion of Muslim jurists, the punishment laid down here applies only to un-married persons. ** As for married persons, their punishment, according to the Sunnah of the Prophet [s] is stoning to death. **
Ibrahim says : Had you understood the Qur’an and the message given therein , you would have not asked this question but since you asked it show that you have no knowledge as to what the Qur’an conveys.
2: 130 And who turns away ** from the religion of Abraham but such as debase their souls with folly?** Him We chose and rendered pure in this world: and he will be in the Hereafter in the ranks of the righteous.
2: 136 Say ye: ** “We believe in Allah and the revelation given to us and to Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord ** we make no difference between one and another of them and we bow to Allah (in Islam).”
2: 140 ** Or do ye say that Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know better than Allah? ** Ah! who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from Allah? But Allah is not unmindful of what ye do!
16: 123 ** So We have taught thee( Mohammed) the inspired (message) “Follow the ways of Abraham the true in faith ** and he joined not gods with Allah.”
Ibrahim says: hence the message and laws and regulations as practiced by the Prophets were similar and this is confirmed by
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22: 78 ** And strive in His cause as ye ought to strive (with sincerity and under discipline): He has chosen you and has imposed no difficulties on you in religion; it is the cult of your father Abraham. It is He Who has named you Muslims both before and in this (Revelation);** that the Apostle may be a witness for you and ye be witnesses for mankind! So establish regular Prayer give regular Charity and hold fast to Allah! He is your Protector the Best to protect and the Best to help!
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42: 13 ** The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah–the which We have sent by inspiration to thee–and that which We enjoined on Abraham Moses and Jesus:** Namely that ye should remain steadfast in Religion and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than Allah hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him).
Ibrahim says; thus if the religion was the same the punishments for the crimes are also the same.
Stoning was practiced even at the time of Christ for adultery so why would it differ at the time of prophet Mohamed (pbuh) ?
If you are in doubt …read!
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith Hadith 4.829 Narrated by Abdullah bin Umar
** The Jews came to Allah’s Apostle and told him that a man and a woman from amongst them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah’s Apostle said to them, “What do you find in the Torah (old Testament) about the legal punishment of Ar-Rajm (stoning)?”** They replied, (But) we announce their crime and lash them." Abdullah bin Salam said,** “You are telling a lie; Torah contains the order of Rajm.” They brought and opened the Torah and one of them solaced his hand on the Verse of Rajm and read the verses preceding and following it.** Abdullah bin Salam said to him, “Lift your hand.” When he lifted his hand, the Verse of Rajm was written there. ** They said, "Muhammad has told the truth; the Torah has the Verse of Rajm. The Prophet then gave the order that both of them should be stoned to death. ** ('Abdullah bin 'Umar said, “I saw the man leaning over the woman to shelter her from the stones.”-
was salaam
Ibrahim
** A moments insight is sometimes worth a life’s experience **
