Why does an atheist have to bash religion and religious figures ?

[Southie]

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[Southie]

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[Ranjhaa]

Re: Why does an atheist have to bash religion and religious figures ?

@Mirch

And you think all atheist are angels , they do not wage unnecessary wars (Russia) , they do not discriminate (Russia , Cuba , China ), they do not subjugate other under their thumbs (Russia invaded Poland , Czechoslovak, Afghanistan) , they do not send those to Siberian labor camps or make them stand in front of firing squads who chose to adopt other philosophy (Russia , China , Cuba) , they do not resort to canibalism( Jeffery Dhamer) .

No religion teaches what you are implying above it is humans themselves who are at fault. It is like they say guns do not kill people , people kill people same is true for religion.
No religion teaches what you are implying , humans use religion or atheism to satisfy their agenda and vendetta.

P.S : And I see your infarction points got you out of your sabbatical from GS not the religion .

These are very unfair examples. None of these were IN the name of atheism, while there are n number of wars and atrocities caused IN the name of one religion or the other. How is it even comparable. Atheism or a particular way of looking at things is just one aspect of the person or his values, doesn’t make him all virtuous, unable to commit any harm. Holds true for both sides.

People do argue that no religion directly implies violence or harm to anyone, which itself again is debatable, but even if we take it at face value nobody can argue against the fact that it does lend itself in ways to people who have particular agendas (which you yourself agree). Shouldn’t that be bad enough. Even in our mortal life, don’t we try to keep amending laws once we realize there are loopholes that can make them to be used in ways they were not originally intended for. Why should religion be free from that?

[Mirch]

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@Ranjhaa

These are very unfair examples. None of these were IN the name of atheism, while there are n number of wars and atrocities caused IN the name of one religion or the other. How is it even comparable. Atheism or a particular way of looking at things is just one aspect of the person or his values, doesn't make him all virtuous, unable to commit any harm. Holds true for both sides.

People do argue that no religion directly implies violence or harm to anyone, which itself again is debatable, but even if we take it at face value nobody can argue against the fact that it does lend itself in ways to people who have particular agendas (which you yourself agree). Shouldn't that be bad enough. Even in our mortal life, don't we try to keep amending laws once we realize there are loopholes that can make them to be used in ways they were not originally intended for. Why should religion be free from that?

Yes it was all done by atheists , their atheism did not make them better than those who do bad things in the name of religion.
So do not tell me that atheism is better than religion because it takes one reason of human aggression out of the picture . It does not. Humans will always be at each other's throats sometime in the name of religion , sometime to eliminate religion .

[Ghost14]

Re: Why does an atheist have to bash religion and religious figures ?

Sometimes people who are atheist bash religions and paint all religious people as mindless drones. A lot of times it's some kid who thinks being atheist is akin to being intellectual. On the other hand, there are some religious people who portray all atheists as being non-spiritual heathens; this thread seems to portray all atheists as those who mock religion, which is not correct either.

Bashing someone's belief system is not the way to debate.

[FairysAngel]

Re: Why does an atheist have to bash religion and religious figures ?

Not when your entire self is surrounded by religious people Not when religious people harm others in the name of God Not when you have to live your life in secrecy Not when you have to feel you have no voice Not when the punishment for apostasy is DEATH Not when nonreligious minorities are persecuted by religious leaders for something they consider of blesphemous nature Not when you post a damn opinion on an open online forum with a solid explanation backing it up and still receive infraction points or a ban. (This is what provoked me to create the other thread)

ALL of the above leads to incremental offenses towards NONRELIGIOUS people. All of the above leads to unnecessary and completely aviodable crimes against humanity. All of the above leaves no room for human development.

Just because it's useless to me doesn't mean it doesn't affect me.

The theists either trying to save you or trying to harm you.
Are Atheists Anti-Religion, Anti-Christian, Anti-Theistic, and Anti-God?
Why to live your life in secrecy? Are atheists Hedonistic, materialistic, cynical or nihilistic? No. Then why?
No voice? I would ask myself that my parents did not raise me to be religious, they also did not raise me to be an atheist also? who am I and what is the root of cause that I feel have no voice?
Some atheists hate religion. Some atheists think religion can be useful. Some atheists are themselves religious and adherents of atheistic religions. Neverthless, atheists are so often seen critiquing religion, it's common for religious theists to wonder what atheists really think about religion and why. Eventually apostasy is Death.

[i-n-i]

Re: Why does an atheist have to bash religion and religious figures ?

Irrational dogmatic beliefs lead to human suffering when they are imposed (through force, manipulation, coercion) on people. The belief need not have anything to do with God.

This is my position and I don't intend to offend anyone when I state it. You offend me when you try to impose your will on what I should believe on me. That's the point at which rational discussion crosses the line.

I have my reasons for being an atheist but hatred of religion is not one of them.