I know you all are thinking what a ridiculous thread- but Im really interested.Iv actually asked many of my friends and relatives, and I got some interesting replies.
Why do you believe in Islam? Christianity?
what ever your religion might be? What holds you to your belief? Do you just pick and choose parts of it- or go along with the whole idea?
Iv learned about many other religions in my life. Islam isnt just something I was born into but its also something I completely agree with.
Re: Why do you believe? (what you do believe)
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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *
I know you all are thinking what a ridiculous thread- but Im really interested.Iv actually asked many of my friends and relatives, and I got some interesting replies.
Why do you believe in Islam? Christianity?
what ever your religion might be? What holds you to your belief? Do you just pick and choose parts of it- or go along with the whole idea?
Iv learned about many other religions in my life. Islam isnt just something I was born into but its also something I completely agree with.
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When somebody scarifices his homeland, wealth, friends, close relatives dearest ones and even his own life for a cause - why dont you believe in what he is saying? This is the only reason in my mind.
^ But people do that for lots of DIFFERENT causes. What makes one "more right" than another?
MQ -- Like you I was born into Islam. But I think it means more to me than that. I realized that in college when my practice of Islam was not simply something my parents told me to do. No one was keeping an eye on me. No one told me when to pray and when to fast or how to dress, talk, eat, etc. But it was important for me to follow the lifestyle that Islam describes because it brought me comfort. I know that sounds really cheesy, but it's very true. I feel at ease when I read the Quran and Hadith. When I pray I have time to reflect and understand and think about life. And so on.
I studied Islam academically as well, but I felt that I understood it (and myself) best when I practiced it.
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*Originally posted by Sahar02: *
^ But people do that for lots of DIFFERENT causes. What makes one "more right" than another?
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The standard or level of that "sacrifice" makes one more unique, more differentiable and more right than the other. The peak of that sacrfice will tell you whoes cause was "more right". "Right" is there, where you find the meaning of sacrfice at its best.
I find myself lacking mostly.
My religion I learned from my mother and attending parochial school.
My father wasn't a catholic. He was Lutheran baptised son of German immigrants. He never attended mass, though he advised rest of the family to attend.
He held to the promise made when he married my mom..that in order to be married in the catholic church..required to raise the children catholic.
My father kept to his vow.. always....
The man gives the direct answer that he will not leave his religion and that of his father and forefathers.
“Can our forefathers and our scholars be wrong?”
The first step in an individual’s intellectual and spiritual growth is to look at himself critically and be ready to change his “accepted facts” in the face of evidence presented.
The enmity and hatred which people normally have for the messengers is primarily based on the belief that nothing should be said against the age-old traditions of the forefathers with regard to idol-worship. The famous Greek physician, Socrates, had to imbibe the goblet of poison because he spoke out against the deities of his people.
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*Originally posted by inuit: *
The standard or level of that "sacrifice" makes one more unique, more differentiable and more right than the other. The peak of that sacrfice will tell you whoes cause was "more right". "Right" is there, where you find the meaning of sacrfice at its best.
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So who is right?
So who is on first?
What is on second?
I don't know who is on third......
Daffy Dean?
Abbott: Goofè Dean. Well, let's see, we have on the bags, Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know is on third...
Costello: That's what I want to find out.
Abbott: I say Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third.
~~~~~~Costello: Who's playing first?
Abbott: That's right.
Costello: When you pay off the first baseman every month, who gets the money?
Abbott: Every dollar of it.
Costello: All I'm trying to find out is the fellow's name on first base.
Abbott: Who.
Costello: The guy that gets...
Abbott: That's it.
Costello: Who gets the money...
Abbott: He does, every dollar. Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it.
Costello: Who's wife?
Abbott: Yes.
PAUSE
Abbott: What's wrong with that?
Costello: Look, all I wanna know is when you sign up the first baseman, how does he sign his name?
Abbott: Who.
Costello: The guy.
Abbott: Who.
Costello: How does he sign...
Abbott: That's how he signs it.
Costello: Who?
Abbott: Yes.
PAUSE
Costello: All I'm trying to find out is what's the guy's name on first base.
Abbott: No. What is on second base.
Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.
Abbott: Who's on first.
Costello: One base at a time!
Abbott: Well, don't change the players around.
Costello: I'm not changing nobody!
Abbott: Take it easy, buddy.
Costello: I'm only asking you, who's the guy on first base?
Abbott: That's right.
Costello: Ok.
Abbott: All right.
PAUSE
Costello: What's the guy's name on first base?
Abbott: No. What is on second.
Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.
Abbott: Who's on first.
Costello: I don't know.
Abbott: He's on third, we're not talking about him.
^
Classic
Neat thing is...
Daffy Dean....lived catty corner to my mom.
It's the last but the most modern religion of the world.
It's a combination of most intuitive and practical teachings that are NEEDED to make surviving in this world easier and lives simpler to live. Even though majority of the followers have made it look like the most unprogressive and backward religion by basing their lives on their poor and limited understanding of it. It provides balance, encourages moderation, stresses justice. It's a guide to the ENTIRE humanity & not just a particular group of people.
If it's followers make an attempt to first correct their own ways, follow ALL the guidelines provided by it, and above of all HAVE something to boast about rather than """trying""" to prove their superiority cz of their religion by bragging "We MUST rule the world bcz we are muslims".
All such muslims would have to stop their selfadmiration and mould their lives anew if they are to come of of their present state of plaque. They must realise that they have nothing to be proud of except for the Allah's book which they read like parrots. They have CORRUPTED and decayed economics and lifestyle. Then they are obssessed with converting all the nations and races to Islam. All they have to compete is a never ending process of suicide bombers. I mean is there ANYTHING ELSE you can offer to the world to spread the true message??? I dont think these attempts are desireable enough or would actually spread the actual message.
Some ignorant followers have not only distorted it's pure image but also are too quick to defend their sick, ugly mentality, beliefs and way of life by backing it with references from the book that must have been sent in an entirely different context.
FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!! If you cant do anything FOR it then dont even give anything AGAINST it. Kindly go to jungle and follow your "Islam" instead of exploiting its image among those around you who and in search of the TRUTH but yet put down by YOU!!!!!
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*Originally posted by PurelyAvgGirl: *
So who is right?
So who is on first?
What is on second?
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Things are clear to you. Rather then asking the name why dont you try to know the level, standard and peak of that sacrifice. Then find the one "who" fulfils the requirment. Define a standard, character & qualities first. and *I am taking the "Sacrifice" as the first standard to judge sombody or whatever he is saying. *
--- Quick Reference ---
26:2 These are verses of the Book that makes (things) clear.
27:1 These are verses of the Qur'an,-a book that makes (things) clear;
43:2 By the Book that makes things clear,-
24:1 ------We sent down Clear Signs------
28:2 These are Verses of the Book that makes (things) clear.
98:1 Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, were not going to depart (from their ways) until there should come to them Clear Evidence,-
15:1 A. L. R. These are the Ayats of Revelation,- of a Qur'an that makes things clear.
44:2 By the Book that makes things clear
2:185 Ramadhan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur'an, as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and judgment (Between right and wrong).
11:17 Can they be (like) those who accept a Clear (Sign) from their Lord, and whom a witness from Himself doth teach, as did the Book of Moses before it,- a guide and a mercy? They believe therein; but those of the Sects that reject it,- the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. Be not then in doubt thereon.
Le 24:12 -They put him in custody so that the command of the LORD might be made clear to them.
Mt 6:22 "The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light.
Lu 11:34
"The eye is the lamp of your body; when your eye is clear, your whole body also is full of light; but when it is bad, your body also is full of darkness.
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Originally posted by inuit: *
Things are clear to you. Rather then asking the name why dont you try to know the level, standard and peak of that sacrifice. Then find the one "who" fulfils the requirment. **Define a standard, character & qualities first.* and *I am taking the "Sacrifice" as the first standard to judge sombody or whatever he is saying. *
Things are seemingly sometimes clear and sometimes not.
Am quite certain that I cannot quote verses why.
Don't know how to illustrate minute ideal of sacrifice.
AAG often guilty of psuedo righteousness.
God never is.
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*Originally posted by Sahar02: *
^ But people do that for lots of DIFFERENT causes. What makes one "more right" than another?
MQ -- Like you I was born into Islam. But I think it means more to me than that. I realized that in college when my practice of Islam was not simply something my parents told me to do. No one was keeping an eye on me. No one told me when to pray and when to fast or how to dress, talk, eat, etc. But it was important for me to follow the lifestyle that Islam describes because it brought me comfort. I know that sounds really cheesy, but it's very true. I feel at ease when I read the Quran and Hadith. When I pray I have time to reflect and understand and think about life. And so on.
I studied Islam academically as well, but I felt that I understood it (and myself) best when I practiced it.
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Thanks Sahar.So far only you answered what I asked.
For the rest - I was asking why you believe as in the personal sense.What makes you keep believing in what you do.
It's the last but the most modern religion of the world.
It's a combination of most intuitive and practical teachings that are NEEDED to make surviving in this world easier and lives simpler to live. Even though majority of the followers have made it look like the most unprogressive and backward religion by basing their lives on their poor and limited understanding of it. It provides balance, encourages moderation, stresses justice. It's a guide to the ENTIRE humanity & not just a particular group of people.
^^ is the reason why I believe in what I do.
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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *
I was asking why you believe as in the personal sense.What makes you keep believing in what you do.
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^ Ummm thank you.
I find a lot of peace when I pray to Allah. I have also found that when I pray to Allah (swt) He answers my prayers. Basically Islam gives me peace of mind. I can turn to Him in a time of crisis and He is always there for me. In a sense, He is my best friend :)
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*Originally posted by Muslim_Queen: *
Thanks Sahar.So far only you answered what I asked.
For the rest - I was asking why you believe as in the personal sense.What makes you keep believing in what you do.
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Haven’t you found anything in the others? What do you mean by personal sense?
I believe in Islam because unlike with other religions I’ve not found any loopholes within it, it’s perfect and secondly because it’s the only religion in which I can feel inner ‘sukoon’ or sakinah.
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Originally posted by Zakiii: *
I believe in Islam because unlike with other religions I’ve not found any loopholes within it, it’s perfect and secondly because it’s the only religion in which I can feel inner ‘sukoon’ or sakinah.
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What **loopholes* you found in other religions. Did you study all.