I know many religious hard-liners will disagree with me, but its really nice to go to Pakistan and see women wearing the burqa out of choice, and women wearing western clothing out of choice. I think the most important thing is that Pakistan has given women the choice of whether or not to do a hijaan/abaya/burqa...and granted many women are forced into it...most educated families have left it up to the woman's discretion....
and regardless of the income class...some women decide to don the hijaab and some dont.
I would say they are transparent. I will narrate you a lil story. There I was coming from Rawal Dam and I notice a guy on a bike with his wife (assuming) whom was not wearing a kamizz, now I was shocked, but then I was told by the driver that she is wearing a kamiz and the reason why I can't see it is because of the lighting. So once we got closer, I noticed a very thin so-called made out of “Chinese Cloth” kamiz.
Anyways, the driver had a good time driving behind the bike the entire ride while I sat there all puzzled. :- )
Btw, she was holding a baby with her.
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I would not say that they're wearing transparent clothes!
The farthest I've seen them go is sleeveless and maybe capri pants in place of shalwaars. And even then, that was worn in a family gathering.
Now if you're talking about fashion shoots in a magazine, well, those are quite different from reality.
Granted, Pakistani women wear what they want within closed doors, but then, that is their right.
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KhanAbadosh: i would still say that u r generalizing it a bit ...u cannot accuse the whole nation just cos of a single woman.. what she wears is her choice n her choice only ... anyway ... if her hubby doen't hav a problem with that .. i dont think u hav any right to form any kind f opinion about her... its their decision.. no?!
Re: Why do upper class Pakistani women dont cover their heads?
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I just came from Pakistan, it was all dandy, though one thing I noticed is that all rich and "involved" Pakistani women didn't cover their heads. In fact, they wore cloths that would put to shame Playboy playmates.
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i would use the word "new daultiye" rather than "ALL upper class"
i dont think its a case of just upper class pakistani women, u cannot just generalise like that, there may be women who dont cover their head and yet they may be middle/working class.
it may be just b a case of some women in pakistan.
If the entire population of Pakistan is considered "upper class" then you have a point, though I doubt it severely.
Now, since you brought up the hubby, that raises another question, are Pakistani men flaunting their women?
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KhanAbadosh: i would still say that u r generalizing it a bit ...u cannot accuse the whole nation just cos of a single woman.. what she wears is her choice n her choice only ... anyway ... if her hubby doen't hav a problem with that .. i dont think u hav any right to form any kind f opinion about her... its their decision.. no?!
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All the upper class... now i dont' think thats the case... I know and see many women in punjab from very rich families and very much "upper class" but they cover themselves properly. You are confusing "new money" with proper traditional upper class here.
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All the upper class... now i dont' think thats the case... I know and see many women in punjab from very rich families and very much "upper class" but they cover themselves properly. You are confusing "new money" with proper traditional upper class here.
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I agree with Nickless!
PArdah cant be associated with money, but some from middleclass tend to show off to be elite class etc.
Re: Why do upper class Pakistani women dont cover their heads?
Because the upper-classes are generally the most educated and most exposed to the West, thus many of them often try to Westernize their own lifestyle in which the pardah is technically detrimental to their social development since Western societies are very secular. The same concept also applies to much of the younger generation (middle & upper class), whom have successfully replaced the shalwar kameez (or local/traditional clothing) with jeans & t-shirts.
Re: Why do upper class Pakistani women dont cover their heads?
In India, 'Purdah' was the practice of upper class women to distinguish them from ordinary classes.
I guess in Pakistan it's the opposite.
thats from arab culture. that's how it was during pre islamic times. poor or lower class women didn't have pardah or even upper body clothing. even during islamic times in the beginning.
the thread starter is a paindoo. typical double standard paindoo who lives in the west but dreams in the 7th century.
Re: Why do upper class Pakistani women dont cover their heads?
I just came from Pakistan, it was all dandy, though one thing I noticed is that all rich and "involved" Pakistani women didn't cover their heads. In fact, they wore cloths that would put to shame Playboy playmates.
If you lower your gaze as ordered by Quran , then you will not notice such things.
Disclaimer: I am not promoting violation of Islamic dress code . But I believe Islam is a religion based on free will , people are allowed to do whatever they want after they have got the message. I also believe that only Allah will punish or reward people and only Allah is the judge.
Re: Why do upper class Pakistani women dont cover their heads?
Faisal, I noticed also that many young girls are now wearing full Hijabs and Niqabs, but this is also a fashion statement in Pakistan these days. You will see girls covering their entire face living only the eyes, but they will have so much makeup done on their eyes that they still attract attention from bystanders, though I won’t ignore the fact that many do it because they are true to their faith.
Also, one other think I learned was that any woman that covers herself entirely or is seen wearing a burqa is considered “chaloo” in some areas.
How does makeup mean they want attention of anyone ? Its a right of woman to look good. They like it that way too, Regardless of any attention or not they wana look good.
Re: Why do upper class Pakistani women dont cover their heads?
I have seen alot of girls wearing mini mini miniiiiii skirts and shorts in specially Lahore…
Heres a link of a pakistani youth programe where almost every girl was wearing pretty revealing stuff throughout the show..
this video is of their “dance competition” [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_z9ElYrlRw