Why do religious people think they must prevent everyone from going to hell?

[diwana]

Re: Why do religious people think they must prevent everyone from going to hell?

@Theorist

Wow! You have got to be kidding me. You seem related to Diwana.

Why dragging me here?

Did you check with me if I agreed with that notion?

[diwana]

Re: Why do religious people think they must prevent everyone from going to hell?

If we are going to discuss morality then it requires a separate thread.

In a nutshell morality has different meaning for different people.

What one group of people consider moral, may not be agreed by other group of people.

Even among ‘religious’ people and ‘irreligious’ people there are many different groups with different understanding of what is moral and what is not.

More importantly, morality concept has changed over time among many different groups of people.

[Shamraz_Khan]

Re: Why do religious people think they must prevent everyone from going to hell?

@ajazali

That altleast proves my argument true, that morality actually does not exist for disbelievers.

So, would you say its moral to burn 29 kids alive & take female students as sex slaves by religious army like in this example? If you think this is moral than I want no part of your version or morality.

[Southie]

Re: Why do religious people think they must prevent everyone from going to hell?

@Zafra

. Just like in Hinduism it is moral to treat untouchables like trash.

Ok.

[ajazali]

Re: Why do religious people think they must prevent everyone from going to hell?

@Ghost14

Incorrect. Every human has an innate sense of justice and fairness. Whether this empathy arises from social conditioning, the evolutionary benefits of community, or from God, is debatable. However, this exists. And did so before Abrahamic religions.

The Roman justice system, early Indus Valley civilizations, and Greek philosophers all touched on equality and “right”, and did so outside of religion.

Sense of justice and fairness is not morality, it’s not immorality either. You should know the definition of morality first. You sacrifice nothing while being just and fair. And you cannot call an act moral where you sacrifice nothing.

If you go by the logic of randomness theory by disbelievers, humans by default are not intelligent enough to be fair and just, not to speak of being moral.
If you go by the logic of theory of evolution, human being are mean, that they are evolved as result of survival of the fittest behavior, not to speak of being just and fair.

[muqawwee123]

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[muqawwee123]

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[ajazali]

Re: Why do religious people think they must prevent everyone from going to hell?

@Ghost14

All of those civilizations had little or no Abrahamic influence. Being a Muslim, you would consider Roman religions to be false and man made anyway, hence, morality came from man.

Religion was the mechanism by which morals were delivered to, and accepted by, the average person. There is plenty of writing by ethics and justice by scholars who were non-religious, or believed in religions we would consider to be false. To think that empathy does not exist in humans or non-believers is absurd.

You need to check with definition of morality whether it includes sacrifice or not. I wonder how you easily jumped to conclude morality is human made by looking at roman justice system.
Who told you Muslims consider all other religions in terms of either false or true?
Why so many prophets were sent you this world? Because religions were got corrupted and modified by followers.
Confucius was a religious figure from china; his teachings were great in sense of spirituality. Some Muslims scholars think he could be a one of those prophets Allah sent to this world, but they are not sure.

[ajazali]

Re: Why do religious people think they must prevent everyone from going to hell?

@muqawwee123

:hmmm:

that means, you have to be moron to be ‘moral’
thus no ‘morality’ exists