fair game , ask the mods/admins to let you have access to all my posts and you find me a single post supporting TTP, if you do, ill leave GS forever.
bro you need help, professional help. not AlexJones but real professionals. LOL
fair game , ask the mods/admins to let you have access to all my posts and you find me a single post supporting TTP, if you do, ill leave GS forever.
bro you need help, professional help. not AlexJones but real professionals. LOL
Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?
^^ I know what I saw & I have no doubt it was you pledging your alliance with those terror groups. It is you who is not admitting. I am not going to beg the admins/mods here to satisfy your requirement of showing you your own words. At the same time, since you have accused me of being a liar, you can find me all my 'lies' from whatever history you see of me here. You dont need to beg the admins/mods for that because obviously if everything i speak is a lie as per you. you can easily make a long list without going through all of my history.
Regarding professional help, thank you for your advice. I'll see if I need & since you live in a country with free medical care without paying your taxes, that probably is a reason nobody to look after the vulnerability of your brain. I would suggest you seek help from al qeda, they will probably send you to american hospital dubai for treatment, like they sent your leader osama bin laden.
Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?
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i should prove your lie? LOL??? get a grip
Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?
Peace cricketplaya
Iconoclast answered the query. The reason why Muslims join non-Muslim armies is because every soldier of any army joins it for a handful of given reasons. Some extra reasons may be because, they couldn't find other jobs, or because their friends have joined. The fact that they are Muslim pre-supposes that every Muslim inherently knows what 'responsibility' they have as Muslim is.
In fact joining any army today is unIslamic, because they all operate in accordance with principles that go against the principles of righteous conduct and compassion. Muslims must only fight out of compassion and by doing so elevating the name of Islam. As Muslims it is our right and duty to protect our homes and communities and ourselves and families and to protect the name of Islam, from those who want to destroy any of these things. This can be done without joining any army. It is entirely possible for someone to join an army and be asked to kill Muslims, even joining Muslim armies leads to this, but this is no worse than killing any innocent human beings, destroying trees, infrastructure, animals and the environment. Wars and battles didn't involve destruction of the mother Earth in the past. Today modern warfare involves destruction. None of this is Islamic. We have far greater things to worry about perhaps the real reason why Muslims fight in 'kuffar' armies is because you and I have not done our jobs to show humanity what it means to be Asraf-Al-Makhluqaat.
We can't ask that question without first blaming ourselves for being ineffective at being true messege relayers of the Light of Islam.
Peace cricketplaya
Iconoclast answered the query. The reason why Muslims join non-Muslim armies is because every soldier of any army joins it for a handful of given reasons. Some extra reasons may be because, they couldn't find other jobs, or because their friends have joined. The fact that they are Muslim pre-supposes that every Muslim inherently knows what 'responsibility' they have as Muslim is.
In fact joining any army today is unIslamic, because they all operate in accordance with principles that go against the principles of righteous conduct and compassion. Muslims must only fight out of compassion and by doing so elevating the name of Islam. As Muslims it is our right and duty to protect our homes and communities and ourselves and families and to protect the name of Islam, from those who want to destroy any of these things. This can be done without joining any army. It is entirely possible for someone to join an army and be asked to kill Muslims, even joining Muslim armies leads to this, but this is no worse than killing any innocent human beings, destroying trees, infrastructure, animals and the environment. Wars and battles didn't involve destruction of the mother Earth in the past. Today modern warfare involves destruction. None of this is Islamic. We have far greater things to worry about perhaps the real reason why Muslims fight in 'kuffar' armies is because you and I have not done our jobs to show humanity what it means to be Asraf-Al-Makhluqaat.
We can't ask that question without first blaming ourselves for being ineffective at being true messege relayers of the Light of Islam.
So, this means, it is unIslamic to join the Pakistani army, the saudi army, the lebanese army, the jordanian army, the iraqi army (wait, do they even have one anymore??) and the irani army?
I'm also supposing that you believe it's wrong to join any extremist group that uses warfare or weapons to get its point across, including the people who laid seige to Lal Masjid.
So, this means, it is unIslamic to join the Pakistani army, the saudi army, the lebanese army, the jordanian army, the iraqi army (wait, do they even have one anymore??) and the irani army?
I'm also supposing that you believe it's wrong to join any extremist group that uses warfare or weapons to get its point across, including the people who laid seige to Lal Masjid.
Anyone using unIslamic means to get any point across is unIslamic. Localised warfare and last resort means, start to bear on acceptable limits only if collateral damage is non-existent. So for example using mines to destroy tanks has to be allowed. Killing civilians or beating people when they doing nothing, just standing around, well that is totally unIslamic.
Anyone using unIslamic means to get any point across is unIslamic. Localised warfare and last resort means, start to bear on acceptable limits only if collateral damage is non-existent*. So for example using mines to destroy tanks has to be allowed.* Killing civilians or beating people when they doing nothing, just standing around, well that is totally unIslamic.
You are joking right? You do realize how many innocent people get killed by walking over those mines, mostly little kids who don't have a clue they're stepping over a mine.
Big human rights problem right now in the Afghan and NW Pakistan region.
Anyone using unIslamic means to get any point across is unIslamic. Localised warfare and last resort means, start to bear on acceptable limits only if collateral damage is non-existent. So for example using mines to destroy tanks has to be allowed. Killing civilians or beating people when they doing nothing, just standing around, well that is totally unIslamic.
You also haven't answered the question. Do you view groups like the ones behind Lal Masjid as acceptable venues for muslims?
Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?
i dont know why muslims join but what i know is qadianis join cause latrine mirza told them to do so
:k:
been a long time since i read one of your long urdu posts in full
(require too much effort) but you got some good points in there.
why do superdupermuslims live in kuffar countries and do chedh in the thalis they eat from - this one is for you, cricketblaya..
because we have drill machines that can do that ched in thalis ..;)
Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?
this cricketplaya guy needs to be reported to the FBI. seriously.
In fact joining any army today is unIslamic,
This is quite interesting. Is this your own opinion, or do you have some fatwa to back it up?
I am also wondering what will happen if we dismantle Pak army and then Bharat attacks us. Who will be there for our protection?
Do you think Taliban army was also unIslamic?
Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?
So it's okay to enjoy all the benefits kuffar countries provide you but when the time comes to serve them, it's totally sinful? Shame on all you hypocrites who enjoy the freedom and liberty given to you in these kuffar countries that are unheard of in your homeland yet have the audacity to ridicule those who fight for the freedom you enjoy.
The difference between this guy & the indian terrorists is that this guy openly exhibits his 'not so comforting' thoughts whereas all the munafiq indian terrorists are operating in hidden & causing all kinds of crimes & terror against humanity of the whole world so unnoticingly that nobody is able to get a grip how they are being mold by indian terrorists to live in a terrorizied environment all around them. it is because they are so sophisticated in their heinous crimes against humanity & use other stupid people of the world as their 'tools' to cause terror than coming off clearly & openly because they are born 'munafiqs'.
i guess fbi, cia, isi, british, australian & all the other intelligence agencies in the world need to keep a close eye on all the indians so that the mental but secret terror of these munafiqs could be caught red handed & be brought out in the open in front of all the innocent, peace-loving people of the world. so that everyone knows who the 'real' culprit is - the people hailing from the largest democracy & secular country in the world.
I really wish all the intelligence agencies of the world could work together as a team to fork out the 'real' terrorists which indians are when there is so much confusion around the globe as to what's going on.
this cricketplaya guy needs to be reported to the FBI. seriously.
LOL, look at how fear mongering has worked. brainwashed sharabee. ![]()
Yes it’s perfectly alright to enjoy the benefits and I have every right not to serve just like any nationalist who feels the same. What do you call those soldiers who quit the army? You call them hypocrites as well?
Oh and let’s not forget the imperialism that these countries have imposed since their inception. They have blood on their hands, why would I bow down to murderers?
Re: Why do Muslims join kuffar armies?
cricketplaya.. most ppl on here seem to think you are a nutjob.. i have recently joined their club..its nutjobs like you that give pakistanis and muslims and desis a bad name... disgrace!!!!!
lol, bro, i don’t care what you think of me.. though im still waiting for some proof that says i support ttp. ![]()
TTP is no different from Talibanic khawarij whom you wholeheartedly support. Besides, TTP has no single leader, so you can not say that TTP is a single organization. It is just a conglomeration of different khariji groups.