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Cannot generalize these things to 'all men' ... 'all working women'... or 'all stay home moms'!
The most charming lady i ever met was a 20 year old stay at home mom
would wake up early, happily make the chai, wake people up, always smiling and happy, would keep check of the entire house, and everytime u had something missing she would know it, she would be happily working all day, and thats what she was praised for uncountable times, and she was more than content in that role
she would go to bed early, and sleep like a child
she would be so content with doing her duties that she didnt have the slightest intrest in things such as television and therefore when u sat down with her, she would have the kind of wisdom that comes from within a pure person yet i dont know if i have mentioned that her physical appearance both in body and face was very above average, yet she didnt have any conceit at all, and i never saw her look in the mirror really! >D
many a times i thought to my self, im not a marriage type, not at all, but if she hadnt been married, she would have been mine
but im glad she is, because i like to stay free >D
but really my point is, that the stay at home mom has been downplayed like hell in television and everyone wants to go out and be independant ladies, stressing themself out, having offspring that turn to beasts because they lack discipline and proper roles
and again like some others have said im not saying that women cant work, id just say, that id prefer a stay at home mom, if i were ever to get married
my mother was a stay at home mom, and im happy she was, and so is she
The most charming lady i ever met was a 20 year old stay at home mom
would wake up early, happily make the chai, wake people up, always smiling and happy, would keep check of the entire house, and everytime u had something missing she would know it, she would be happily working all day, and thats what she was praised for uncountable times, and she was more than content in that role
difference between her and some stay at home moms is that she was praised for it by her family and in laws. imagine doing everything she does only for other ppl to keep putting you down..that would make anyone unhappy w/ their role.
yawn been there done that, usually when kids are sick I am the one at home with them because my job is more flexible and I can decide to work from home pretty much any day. I saw my dad do the same when my mom had been in an accident and fractured her leg, taking care of the whole house, breakfast, dinner, laundry, and that on top oe onf full time job and one side consulting gig he worked on in evenings.
but since we are making baseless statements, let me join in. if it were up to women, human race would still be living in caves and just putting potions, lotions and ointments on their faces :halo:
sorry, but dealing with kids and home is no where close to being as stressful as dealing with customers, bosses, workplace politics, job security and all. does your husband make sure that you appreciate that he brings the money that keeps the house running?
I think its not the girls who ned to toughen up, but guys and tell ladies to snap out of the princess lala land many expect 
The question is, is the work equivalent to 10 solid hours of work a day? I mean how much laundry does one have to do, and how much more time does it take to run two loads than one? is loading a dishwasher for 4 people significantly more time consuming than loading it for 2 people?
if a house is well organized and maintained, the houskeeping stuff is maybe a couple of hours a day, no more. do people not know of multitasking? toss a load in the washing machine, as its running run the dishwasher, make the beds, vacuum quickly (and it takes maybe a couple of minutes a room to do that and honestly, you dont need to vacuuum daily anyways, or dust, or mop. wiping down bathroom surfaces takes how long?
the reason that it seems so long is probably the pace, breaks to gossip on phone, watch TV, etc etc. all whinging aside, there is a reason that daytime television has viewers, because sorry ladies, but you are not working those daytime hours at some solid pace..somebody is watching that TV, and really its not men and women who are at the office.
There is no issue with stay at home mums, when i was a kid, my mum stayed at home, and when we were older and in school, she went back to work. we never felt a difference in the home, she balanced it and my dad helped her.
working women manage homes as well, often with high stress jobs during daytime.
I dont the work of stay at home ladies being tougher than working women, especially when kids become school age and are out of home for a number hours a day.
The work is more difficult then doing a desk-job X2 give them that! Dealing with clients and boss is alright they're not family! A stay home mom has to please the husband, the kids, the inlaws and make sure ALL of them are happy and satisfied at the same time too!
Yes, the man of the house provides for the family.. the lady draws-up the grocery list, and shops for it.. plans menu's way in advance and keeps everyone's taste in mind. The lady keeps up with all school activities, and medical issues the kids might have.. the day to day running of the house which may just seem like an hour or two's work.. but it is infact an entire days work. It's physical and mental work both.. with huge doses of stress if MIL is visiting!
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Gina- the work is NOT more difficult, if you look at it from a technical comeplexity perspective, loading dishwasher or cooking is not quite as difficult as working on a really tough legal case, some intense surgery, resolving some system failure that could have impact on businesses of your major clients.
its not an entire days work, and I use my mum as an example who worked as a teacher and managaed a home and we really did not feel a difference when she started working again, or I look at my sis who is a doc and runs a household with her inlaws liing with her for 6-9 months out of the year.
your job security, career path, earning ability, promotion, salary raise depends on the people you work at home.
Now someone may say that well the quality of life depends on how the husband or inlaws (if they are living together) perceived the work quality and that is a valid point, but the number of stakeholders and number of things that can be out of your own control are significantly less, a wife does not get a malpractice suit from her kids if the rice is overdone, shareholders dont throw a fit causing a huge impact if the new product did not meet market expectations..
I have no issues with stay at home moms, none. except for the lazy kinds. They do important work, but really its not that much, the biggest chunk of it is childcare and spending quality time with kids and giving them a rich learning experience including field trips etc.
Lets not make it moe than it is, a stay at home lady with no kids, or kids in school does not have enough work to keep her going 9-10 hours every day. I did not say its an hour or twos work..but its def not 10 hrs a day every day..
Please prove me wrong, list daily activities and the amount of touch time...not elapsed time. so dont say oh laundry takes an hour and a half, no...laundry takes 30 mins max, loading,unloading, folding, hanging..the time that the washign machine is running does not count :)
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it's not difficult at all, but doing the samething every single day can become a chore.....
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true, that is something i would agree with, the repititive aspects of it could be mind numbing.
and its true not just for housework but some jobs as well.
dont get me wrong, I am not saying what stay at home women do is not worth anything, or very easy, especially if there are small preschool age kids at home. Lets not make it less than what it is, but lets not make it more than what it is.
Sady I see some ladies vent it and displace their anger and frustration on the husband, really not understanding what type of pressures he may deal with at work. I see the opposte too where husbands take their stress from work out at home. both are negative and immature things.
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i suppose the only thing we can do is to learn to appreiciate each other, and undertsand and respect each other's strenght's and weaknesses....
as i said before...
this debate of stay-at-home moms vs working moms is a very old one, it is turned into a bad mom vs good mom debate by some men (and women!) because its their pitiful attempt to keep women on the defensive and use it as a guilt trip, in both cases. There is no right or wrong answer for this because its all relative, whatever works for you, your child and family is the right choice to make.
and why do men think working women aren't capable of taking care of home or won't be good mothers?
anyway, men suck for most part...
I didn't get what do they 'suck' for most part?
It's nice we have men on this forum so their opinions are much needed. Why is it that men think stay at home mothers sit around and do nothing?
Sorry dudette, we men dont think like that, its you women who think that we men think like that ..
isay kehtay hain chor ki darhi main tinka
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^ sadly it's more women who think that abt other women then men.
Khety hain tu kaha hy, You do ulta chor kotwal ko danty, chori oper sy seena zori wali bat ki hy yahan tum ne
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OK, I guess that only difference between Housewives and working ladies is that housewives probably have a little flexibility. They can shuffle their schedule around, maybe delay or postpone certain things to take care of some urgent matter. If there is a snow storm outside, they can cancel going out for groceries. Working ladies may have to show up at work, storm or no storm.
Bivi ka tu koi masla nahi woh dosri bhi ly aain gy na hoi tu, Magar agar tum repairs bhi ker rahi hu. Tu kion:aq: Itna pysa bach aker kiya ker lo gi? Plumber ko bulwao kam kerwao Allah Allah khyr sala. Koi faqeer nahi ho jat amehnat mazdori kerny waly ko bula ker yard cleaning kerwa ker ya repairs kerwa ky believe me:)
OK, I guess that only difference between Housewives and working ladies is that housewives probably have a little flexibility. They can shuffle their schedule around, maybe delay or postpone certain things to take care of some urgent matter. If there is a snow storm outside, they can cancel going out for groceries. Working ladies may have to show up at work, storm or no storm.
Waisy merdon ko ghar sy baher ja ker jitna sukoon milta hy,Allah ki panah job se aker ehsan kitna kerty hain jaisy pahar kat ker aay hain. orat ko bhi itna hi milta ho ga job per ja ker na bachon ki chekh o pukar na susral walon ki khich khich thori dyr ky liy. Bachy baby sitter ky han. Aisi main bachon ky liy nahi apn career or security ky liy kam ker rahi hoti hain. Ju koi buri ba nahi magar Stay home mom risk lyti hy bachon ki khatir or aik manhoos cya bandy ki khatir or apna career qurban kerti hy. Os ka sila allah ky han hy Magar ju man apny bachon ko day care ya baby sitter ky pass chorti rahi os ky bachy jab burhapy main os ko old home bhaijin gy tu osy shikwa nahi hona chahiy. Jin bachon ko bas pyda kiya, or babysitters per chor diya tangi turshi seh lyti on ki dykh bhal tu khud kerti, Ab shikwa kiya ju tum ny kiya woh bachy ker rahy hain old home bhyj ker. be happy.*
Waisy merdon ko ghar sy baher ja ker jitna sukoon milta hy,Allah ki panah job se aker ehsan kitna kerty hain jaisy pahar kat ker aay hain. orat ko bhi itna hi milta ho ga job per ja ker na bachon ki chekh o pukar na susral walon ki khich khich thori dyr ky liy. Bachy baby sitter ky han. Aisi main bachon ky liy nahi apn career or security ky liy kam ker rahi hoti hain. Ju koi buri ba nahi magar Stay home mom risk lyti hy bachon ki khatir or **** ki khatir or apna career qurban kerti hy. Os ka sila allah ky han hy Magar ju man apny bachon ko day care ya baby sitter ky pass chorti rahi os ky bachy jab burhapy main os ko old home bhaijin gy tu osy shikwa nahi hona chahiy. Jin bachon ko bas pyda kiya, or babysitters per chor diya tangi turshi seh lyti on ki dykh bhal tu khud kerti, Ab shikwa kiya ju tum ny kiya woh bachy ker rahy hain old home bhyj ker. be happy.**
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