Why did Eve ate the apple?

redvelvet · August 2, 2009, 7:10am

Shaitan was a jinn created from smokeless fire. He disobeyed Allah because he had free will. Angels can never disobey Allah because they don't have free will.....they can only do what is good. FREE WILL......was given to humans and jinns. Shaitan was not a human. So...using process of eliminations.......he was a jinn.

redvelvet · August 2, 2009, 7:11am

It's too soon to tell. First...work on making it to heaven....then worry about the hoors. For all you know....they may not even speak. Thus they won't tax your mind. :p

McPendo · August 2, 2009, 7:15am

I dont understand? why would God tell the angels to bow down and the Jin would get mad when the Jinns were not told to Bow down? So considering that i think he was an Angel

McPendo · August 2, 2009, 7:15am

OHHH PLEASE GOD MAKE HOORS LIKE THAT SWEET BLISS!!!!

redvelvet · August 2, 2009, 7:16am

Dude…re-read your post…you’ve made a huge contradiction.

You said sufis used to kiss EACH OTHER. Meaning…male sufis would kiss other male sufis. I doubt that male sufis went around kissing women.

Since this practice was not considered homosexual…then why not follow it exactly as it was done in the olden days. Meaning…you can kiss another sufi GUY…not some girl.

redvelvet · August 2, 2009, 7:16am

Somebody please tell Pendu.......that Shaitan was a jinn not an angel.

McPendo · August 2, 2009, 7:21am

[QUOTE]
It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels prostrate to Adam, and they prostrate; not so Iblis; He refused to be of those who prostrate.
(Allah) said: "What prevented thee from prostrating when I commanded thee?" He said: "I am better than he: Thou didst create me from fire, and him from clay."
Qur'an 7:11-12
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Ok this is interesting Here God says that "He refused to be of those who prostrate meaning the Angels.

McPendo · August 2, 2009, 7:22am

I know velvet im saying if i kissed a girl as if i were kissing another sufi it’d be ok:) just trying to get a Kiss man is it so hard to do? I mean no wonder UFOs dont come to earth we can’t even kiss our selves.

redvelvet · August 2, 2009, 7:25am

Re: Why did Eve ate the apple?

There's a debate as to whether Shaitan was jinn or angel. But I think that it's commonly believed he was jinn:

Allah says:** " And (remember) when We said unto the angels: "Fall prostrate before Adam", and they fell prostrate, all save Satan. He was of the jinn, so he rebelled against his Lord's command. Will you choose him and his progeny for your protecting friends instead of Me, when they are an enemy unto you? Calamitous is the exchange for evil-doers." Sûrah al-Kahf: 50]**

McPendo · August 2, 2009, 7:27am

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^ ok cool i was thinking of the Bible version when they say he was an angel

redvelvet · August 2, 2009, 7:28am

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Scholars differ regarding whether Satan was from the jinn or from the angels. Some scholars argue that he is from the angels, since Allah's command to the angels applied to Satan as well. They cite verse 34 of Sûrah al-Baqarah:

And when We said unto the angels: "Fall prostrate before Adam." They fell prostrate, all except Satan. He refused and was haughty. He was of those who reject faith.

However, the apparent meaning of what the Qur'ân says about Satan elsewhere indicates that he was is indeed from the jinn. The same story of Satan's refusal to bow down is given in the Qur'ân in other places where it is indicated that Satan is from the jinn, though he was in the assembly of the angels and was commanded to bow down to Adam along with them. Sûrah al-A`râf (7): verses 10-12 reads:

And We created you, then fashioned you, then told the angels: "Fall prostrate before Adam!" And they fell prostrate, all save Satan, who was not of those who make prostration.

**(Allah) said: "What hindered you so that you did not prostrate when I commanded you?"

He said: "I am better than him: You had created me of fire, while him You created from clay." **

McPendo · August 2, 2009, 7:29am

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^ ok thats more confusing, iblis was the Head of Angels why would a Jinn who is a lower entity then the Angels be the leader of the Angels?

redvelvet · August 2, 2009, 7:30am

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We should not understand from Allah’s words: “He was of the jinn, so he rebelled..” that Satan had to disobey Allah because he was from the Jinn. There are jinn who obey Allah and are pious Muslims. Rather, we can understand from the verse that Satan had the ability to disobey Allah because he was from the jinn. This is because, as one of the Jinn, he possesses free will and can choose to disobey Allah’s command. The angels, by contrast, always obey Allah.

^ As quoted from: Islamtoday.com: …and they fell prostrate, all save Satan. He was of the jinn… – but was he an angel?

redvelvet · August 2, 2009, 7:32am

remote controls and playstations are nothing but metal and plastic. And the images are fake....by the way.

McPendo · August 2, 2009, 7:33am

You know a lot Redvelvet, i thought women aren’t interested in religion:) except for Quran Khanis and ways to show off their drawing rooms by doing these things:)

McPendo · August 2, 2009, 7:34am

hmmm explain?

redvelvet · August 2, 2009, 7:45am

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jewels are more valuable.

McPendo · August 2, 2009, 7:25pm

But aren't Jewels stone? I mean the diamond that comes out of mud is a stone, its just shiny.

hitchki · August 2, 2009, 7:30pm

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you are describing Dinner-time.

Eve was hungry. Whys a girl gotta starve herself all the time for :(

McPendo · August 2, 2009, 7:32pm

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^ So she can get Rishtas! No one likes fatties.