Why cant they catch anyone??

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Books by Tom Clancy alike?
No wonder you havent heard the word Jihad in history books most propagated by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood in 1930s (I believe).
Once there was a discussion on GS, where I stated that suicide bombing was indeed a common method practised by Mujahideens against Russia, but I got in heavy criticism. Suicide Bombings and the word Jihad and Its exploitation have different origins.

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Well, i think that lies do not change facts, does it?

No father, uncle or brothers were stopped or arrested from picking their kids from that terrorist Madrassa. Actually, some did go in and were made hostage by that billy goat inside.

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Of course people will speak up when innocent’s lives are taken away. And why in the first places these jihadis were given the opportunity and power to set their network in sawat?
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Innocents? these fisadis are not innocents, they are criminals, traitors and terrorists.

What you mean by given opportunity? You think that they applied to government that they want to set up their terrorist network and then permission came from Islamabad? Stop smoking. These people were not given opportunity to set up their network, but they did as criminals and terrorists set up networks in any country.

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Sawat was a tourist place; it never ever had any such problems in the past. Why there is no check on these jihadis? Why are they every time given some space to move and set their net in a new place? What is that past governments were doing that had forced these jihadis to dis-arm them and live peacefully?
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These crooks were there since Zia encouraged them, but were going low. When government crackdowned on them they resisted and we started knowing of them. In the past, government used to cover the activities of these retards and since there was no media other than government own, we never heard any news what government did not wanted people to hear.

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Brother, it seems that you have Americano-phobia :)

When America cannot stop army kicking the Asss of NS and save his throne (in one interview NS literally said that he was thrown off his throne of Pakistan by army), what USA could do to Musharraf? Please do not live in illusion. If Musharraf is in power he is because he has support in the country and if you do not accept that than it is not fault of anyone else but it is fault of your lack or impair knowledge, fed by crook politicians an media paid by them crooks.

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like Chaudry Shujaat, Sheik Rahsid etc.

Mush is a detested dictator, kept in power by US and Army, for now.

Don't try to pretend he is their because the people of Pakisatn want him there

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Not most but least still wanted him to stay atleast next 10-15 years .. Start counting for his departure days..the best way .. ;)

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Well, jihad in Islam is going on since Allah sent humans in this world.

Problem of 'Fisad' in the name of 'Jihad' started by 'Khawrijs' at the time of Khalafat of ALi (RA).

Then Abdul Wahab with the help of king of Duryia (Saud) started this fisad against Turk in Arabia and got defeated by Turks (who burned Duryia to ground).

Anyhow, first time this 'fisad' became successful when Wahabis under Abdul Aziz with the help of British started 'fisad' during first world war against turkey empire. Then after war, again with the help of British got rid of Shareef of Mecca and captured Hijaz. Later, I think in 1932 ... British rewarded Abdul by making him King of Njad and Hijaz.

Later this 'fisad' was exported to Pakistan by Saudia and USA with the help of Zia, so that Pakistan use it to fight Russia in Afghanistan, and since that evil day, Pakistan is also suffering from this fisad and fisadis.

It is hard to fight this 'fisad' as it is not only fighting with arms but 'fisad' also makes many zombies who follow their evil masters, believing that they are following Islam (though they follow Shaitan).

Fisad learned its motivation from Jihad.

When Jihad happens, people know that every thing is in the hand of Allah but they are going through their worldly test and Allah do not require their Jihad as Allah is above any requirements. If Allah wants to, he can change anything in world with one order, but Allah has created this world for test where we have all sort of forces, good as well as evil.

When 'Fisad' happens in the name of 'Jihad', Shaitan makes people believe that Allah is need of them, wants their lives and depend on them to sacrifice their lives for Allah, so that Allah can be worshiped by all. Shaitan makes them 'fisadis' beleive that Allah does not control his creations but want from his creations to control and force others to worship Allah. In this way, Shaitan has made Allah a pagan God (like Kali Mai or simialar vicious entities), where God needs human sacrifice and humans lives to spread his worship. 'Fisad' is a form of 'Jihad for Shaitan']

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And yes .. do not underestimate the power of 'Fisadis' ... as it is same power that make a sadhu leave this world and run around naked begging for food. It is same power that makes a woman do sati quitely (get burned to death with her husband). It is same power that can make mother who is worshipper of 'Kali mai' to sacrifice her child (cut her throat) as sacrifice to Kali Mai.

Same way, 'fisadis' would sacrifice this world and worldly life (as sadhu do) for the God they worship who is needy of their life and love their misery (it is different from Allah what Muslim worship even though these fisadis also call their God Allah). They can sacrifice their child and innocent chiild of others for thier God just like worshippers of Kali Mai who would not hesitate to cut throat of others for the sake of making Kali Mai happy. I am sure you must have seen them cutting the throat of other humans and preparing kids to do suicide ... as the God they worship they think loves human sacrifices and depends on them to spread his message of forced worship.

These people consider that humans who are not like them are unwanted creation of their God (or maybe some other God created them) and they should get slaughtered like animals without remorse or pity.

These people do not worship Allah who is creator of all beings, those who do good as well as those who do bad and only Allah has right to judge a person, because it is only Allah that knows what he gave to individual in the form of inner beleifs plus nevertheless, he has that right to judge because all are his creations. For these 'fisadis', they love to judge others and do not beleive that all humans are equal, because their God (Shaitan) gave them that right to judge others and persecute others.

One can recognise them everywhere calling others they do not agree as 'Kafir' and wanting to kill them. These people would consider that they are always right in religion and that all should accept their religious beliefs, if not than forced to accept their beliefs, or get killed in most gruesome ways (like Lal Masjid goons, Mullah Radio, Talibans, Al-Qaidas and others like them). These people are always against women education and equality ... and wants to make women their slaves as it happens in any pagan religion and their women love to do sati for them (same what was there in Hindu religion or religion of Arabia before Islam ... or anywhere in past pagan world).

We should know that Allah do not need worship or forced worship, but even worship is test of humans that for Allah to accept has to be with free will and even that is not what he needs, but actually worship is human need as human through worship recognises Allah and confirms their lowly created status.

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i'm not going to get into Islamic history deep. Please be short with your post. No one is interested in assay written by you.

The very purpose of my argument is:
Jihad was propagated by the west to justify Its fight against Muslims. Which was later converted to War on Terrorism. Nevertheless the real threat was not jihad Itself, but the wahabi kingdoms financed and well backed by the same Uncle Sam, who once believed in Sadam and his chessmen.

You can turn and twist all stories regarding Mujahideens, Jihadis, Freedom fighters, Islamists the way you want but youll find It all having one main source.