Why cant people just leave her alone!!

lol, simpson's reference. it's kina like when apu had his kids, and he sold them to the zoo. well they are being sold to the media circus now.

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Regardless of whatever procedure she chose, the point is she is passed that, she has kids now. The point to note is that she is willing to work to raise them, I don't see that as being selfish. When a mother sacrifices her time and life to raise that many kids, that is not selfish.

Leaving them in a trailer park somewhere to rot is selfish.

Its her choice, just because normal people don't have that many kids, doesn't mean its wrong to do so, or its too costly.

Her costs are running into tons of expenses, but there are enough people who are willing to help her out. Even if taxpayer money is going to her, then thats exactly what it should be used for. Its not abuse, its the reason welfare and individual taxation exists! Not wars and bailouts.

She wasn't expecting that many kids, two of the embryos happened to be twins. So she was blessed with them, and the best part about it is, she is not neglecting, but accepting the fact that she has 14 children. That is not selfish.

The issue with her back has nothing to do with raising 14 kids, thats 10 years ago. I am sure her family is not that devilish to not support her, as it states she will receive as much aid as she can from family, friends, the state, and the church.

Someone mentioned imagine if all of America starts to do this, no, all of America cannot do it, because they are selfish. One person is fully willing to take care of their responsibility, rest of America will most likely run away from it. Its more common to have kids later on in life, than to start a family earlier.

From my own personal example, my grandmother did not grow up in a village, but in downtown Karachi. In a house, on one source of income, she raised 11 kids, who grew up fine, are scattered all over the world, and are perfectly healthy with kids of their own.

This woman, in California out of all places, will survive too.

We don't really need to worry that much about what psychologists think, when they're trying to get their 15 mins of fame on TV. :p

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Besides she hasn't done anything that is against the American law so people should show some compassion towards her. If they want to complain they can do that by asking government and the doc's to make rules and policies in case someone else tries to follow her footsteps.

She's even been receiving death theats....this kinda reaction from American citizens is just shocking and absolutely unacceptable. Let's keep our assumptions about her being a wicked planner aside and think about the kids, think about her being a mother.

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^ Death threats from Americans is shocking to you? lol

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I'm just worried..it seems like she had severe emotional issues growing up, i hope she was able to wrok through them and can raise the kids proeprly..

these days we hear of HS girls willingly getting pregnant just so that they have someone to love..i have to wonder, what kind of home lives they have, what did thier parents do that made tem end up feeling thsi way...

Yea, because death threats are such an American thing? I don't see to many Lutherans bombing Catholic churches, do you?

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wow why are her lips so pumped up with collagen?

Have anything productive to say regarding the topic of this thread?

yeah...normally they just go ahead and kill. threats are like so 2002...old fashioned.

Hareem, you’re very right. Actually, the medical board of california has already initiated an investigation of the fertility doctor involved in this. There are already “standards” in place - but these are merely guidelines and not laws. The standards were violated here and its pretty apparent that the guidelines and standards need to become more firmly adhered to which I think will happen as a result of this case.

Board opens probe into octuplet births - BostonHerald.com

The doc was wrong to implant so many fetuses - clearly putting the life of the mother and all of the babies at risk. The guidelines are no more than 3.

The mother was fully aware that so many implanted fetuses put them all at risk - yet she encouraged the doc to implant this many (according to reports it was 6, two of which became twins). So what was her plan if she didnt survive? She already had 6 kids, no job and very little support at home. Yet she risked her life to have a “litter” of babies. Dont you all see a problem with that?

The fertility doc should have sent her for counseling and evaluation prior to undertaking such a life-threatening risk. The fertility doc should also have stuck to the standards set forth by the medical community.

BUT now that its all done and over with, youre right that they should receive support from the public. It seems that they will not need financial support for a while since the mother is making all kinds of public appearance deals for which she is handsomely paid. Death threats are indeed unacceptable and shocking - those people will hopefully be caught, prosecuted and sent to jail.

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^Good to know this Mamaof3. :k:

Crescent and saieen

Don’t you guys consider yourself American or canadian citizens?

I was going through this thread to find someone's response that closely matches with my two cents so I can avoid all that typing. I found exact match, thank you Khumar.

Just to add one more item, I have no doubt in my mind that she is mentally sick. The people supporting her stupidity have no clue what's involved in raising a child. I have 2 teens and one 11 years old, have no financial problem (thank God especially in this meltdown), even in my situation we both sometimes feel jumping off the cliff.

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You know, I essentially agree with you PA and Khumar. There is indeed something mentally wrong in this woman - but the whole situation really isnt her fault since she did find a doc who gave in to her obsession putting her life and the lives of 8 babies at risk. Instead of addressing her emotionally disturbed state, the doc gave in to her obsession.

But the thing is...there are 8 innocent babies involved. Its not like its just an emotionally disturbed person needing treatment anymore. The babies need a good home, a good mother and not to be made a public spectacle of. The mother undoubtedly is happy about the whole thing and is able to generate a great income from the whole thing...but now the question becomes what will happen to these kids who are being raised as a "freak show" family? I cannot imagine being part of this...kids are sensitive in the best of circumstances. They will be dogged and scrutinized every single time they step out of their house. So will their friends. Its a very sad situation - one that will not change. But thankfully, it seems that actions will be taken to prevent such a thing from happening again.

Trust me buddy, there is no love lost between those two denominations!

I am a Canadian citizen, doesn’t mean I have to adhere to every bogus inhumane law my country comes up with.

I bet you didn't share this with a judge at the oath ceremony when you were getting a citizenship.....LOL

cuz she can NOW afford to do so :D

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lol i think she probably bought them when she got the $170k workers compensation for her back injury.

I was singing the paki anthem when I got oathified lol

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Interesting news here

hxxp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090209/ap_on_he_me/octuplets

So the grandmother comes out to condemn her, and here are some delusional posters coming to the defence of the mother. For those who come out to defend her, why don’t any of you volunteer to look after her kids, seeing how she is most likely inept to do so?

Isn’t that haraam anyways? :rolleyes: