Salaam all
Any know why …?
I would really appreciate a reply
walikum assalam wa rehmatullah allah forbade them from entering harmain shareefain. their is a ayat in the quran which clearly points out non muslims can’t enter makkah and medinah and yeah i’m totally for it :k:
some of the guys will post the ayat for you i would’ve but can’t be bothered rite now, totally wrecked been up all nite, just got enough strength to post.
Check www.irf.net
Dr. Zakir Naik has beautifully answered this question.
That’s what I call win-win situation. They don’t want you there, and you don’t want to go there. 
We can name it religio-racism. I think that in some chrstian and hindu temples also outsiders are not allowed.
it can occupied by military action it is physical possiblity i am talking in
terms of technical possibility.
rvikz i know wat u r trying to say butt that will never happen as allah himself will guard the holy cities of makkah and madina
"their is a ayat in the quran which clearly points out non muslims can't enter makkah and medinah and yeah i'm totally for it "
suppose the pope banned muslims from entering the vatican ..... it's easy to imagine the uproar about "crusader racism"
9.28. O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise
It seems its talking about the shrine in Mecca. However this verse like all the verses in chapter 9 is talking about the pagans who fought against the prophet and those who aided them.
Because it says in the same chapter:
9.7. How can there be a league, before Allah and His Messenger, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for Allah doth love the righteous.
It says also:
9.13. Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is God Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe!
And I said that the Quran after that said:
9.29. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued
Jizya comes from jaza’ meaning reward or compensate. The Quran also says:
As for such who do not fight you on account of faith, or drive you forth from your homelands, God does not forbid you to show them kindness and to deal with them with equity, for God loves those who act equitably. God only forbids you to turn in friendship towards such as fight against you because of faith and drive you forth from your homelands or aid in driving you forth. As for those from among you who turn towards them for alliance, it is they who are wrongdoers. 60:8-9
It also says:
Permission (to fight) is given to those against whom war is being wrongfully waged, and verily, God has indeed the power to aid them. Those who have been driven from their homelands in defiance of right for no other reason than their saying, ‘Our Lord is God.’ 22:39-40
So the verse must be read in the Quranic context and it seems its talking about the crowds of Mecca.
2.193. And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God, but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression
So it seems its talking about the persecutions in Mecca and upon the prophet’s return to Mecca these verses came down. Its not a generic verse since the Quran seperates between the parties depending on their history with the prophet and his propagation.
However as far as Saudi Arabia they say there is hadith that non Muslims are not allowed to enter the Arabian peninsula. They are Hanbali there so they believe the ruler decides.
The verse about the people of the book also its talking about a certain crowd since the Quran itself says:
Not all of them are alike: of the People of the book are a portion that stand (for the right); they rehearse the signs of Allah all night long and then prostrate themselves in adoration. They believe in Allah and the Last Day; they enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong; and they (hasten in emulation) in (all) good works; they are in the ranks of the righteous. Of the good that they do nothing will be rejected of them; for Allah knoweth well those that do right. 3.113
And there are certainly among the people of the Book those who believe in Allah in the revelation to you and in the revelation to them bowing in humility to Allah: they will not sell the signs of Allah for a miserable gain! for them is a reward with their Lord and Allah is swift in account. 3.199
“Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians – whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve” (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).
So I think this is talking about the crowd in Mecca who sent the prophet to exile and lost their homes and property and this is a compensation(jizya) payment. Jizya has no relevance linguistically to tax. Tax in Arabic is dhareeba. Jizya is a reward.
The sects say:
Monqiz As-Saqqar attributes the word jizya to the root word jaza meaning “compensate” and defines it as “a sum of money given in return for protection”.[14]](Jizya - Wikipedia)
Ibn Al-Mutaraz derives the word from 'idjzã, meaning “substitute” or “sufficiency” because “it suffices as a substitute for the dhimmi’s embracement of Islam.”[14]](Jizya - Wikipedia)
Yusuf al-Qaradawi says the word jizya is derived from the jazaa’, meaning “reward”, “return”, or “compensation”, and defines it as “a payment by the non-Muslim according to an agreement signed with the Muslim state”.[15]](Jizya - Wikipedia)
Yet none of their definition justifies payment. Its clear from all their definition whether its subsutitute, reward or compensation that its talking about compensation or reward or substitution for something. It can not be for their rejection of faith since that is something not the prophet’s business and not all of them were talked about in the Quran as I have shown. Its obvious this is about the crowds at Mecca after the prophet and his followers returned to after nearly 12 years in exile and the many battles fought.
16:82 **But if they turn away from you, your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message **.
6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides Him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you a guardian over them.
4:79-80 Say:'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. **Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper." **
24.54. Say: "Obey God, and obey the Messenger. but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. **If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger’s duty is only to preach the clear (Message). **
88:21 22; And so, exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.
39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man.** Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper**
109.1-6 Say : O ye that reject Faith,! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship, And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship, To you be your Way, and to me mine.
What do people today or even those back then who were not persecuting the prophet and his propagation have to do with all this? The Quran makes it clear that no hostilities except with those who pratice oppression.
I think this is a case when something specific has been made very general without looking at the Quranic context and the Quranic guidelines.
Re: why can non-muslims not go 2 mecca/medina
caz the saudis are stupid.
All those harping on about them being forbidden to enter masjid-ul-haraam need to remember that masjid-ul-haraam is one place in Mecca and not the entire city. Also, there is nothing mentioned about Madina. The Holy Prophet (pbuh) allowed christians to pray in his mosque. Imagine that happening today.
Muslims have completly lost their marbles. If you go to a muslim country, a person from one sect can't enter the mosque of a different sect, but once they come down to the west even non-muslims are allowed to enter the mosques. Hypocracy at its worst.
Since when Dr. Zakir Naik said anythign beautiful he is a charlatan at best…
what if other religionist adopted the same policy…
mind you he is equating religion with nation state and that means all musim minority are basically votaries of other muslims nations wherever they are and that mean they can’s seek same rights..
anyway Dr. Zakri never makes sense
Re: why can non-muslims not go 2 mecca/medina
you know what, we should let bunch of awam understand Islam and then pass their fatawas. this will do lots of good to all those who do not like Islam because by letting the awam pass fatawas we will be left with no deen. good idea, isn't?