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I don't think they were Pakistanis, they were of Pakistani decent. They were British, and in London majority of the Sheikhs are Arabs and the community is mixed. There no one represent their individual countries, it is one big Muslim community. On that token it was their busines, esply if the Sheikh happened to be an Arab and was repeating what was happening in Gitmo, Abu Ghariab, Iraq, and Afghanistan to his members again and again like CNN and MSNBC they anyone not just of Pakistani decent can become emotional.

Pakistan comes in the picture as far as where these guys got their traning, and if these training camps are still open in Pakistan after the whole 9/11 thing then shame on the West. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.

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^^ Tell me how many ethnic-Pakistanis in the UK ask for rishta outside their biraadri? If all Muslims are somehow sharing the same experience, tell me do black Iraqi Muslims in Bradford marry Bangla Muslims? If language, marriage etc are not universal, then why use the suffering of some community in a far away land as the "root cause" of the 7/7 carnage.

Perhaps these people should focus on improving their own lives before going to fight on behalf of people with whom they won't even have rishta on a regular basis.

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Well just about everyone is a thekedaar of Iraq today. These kids didnt wanna be left out.

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Perhaps these people should focus on improving their own lives before going to fight on behalf of people with whom they won't even have rishta on a regular basis.
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well its abit late for your advise now, 'these people' are long dead.

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The "these people" could also apply to Al Muhajiroun, Hizbut Tehrir members and their supporters, from whose ideology the 7/7 bombers came.

If they really want to develop the Ummah, let them give rishta of their sisters to some African Muslims. Let's see how far the Ummah goes that way.

Ummah type ideology cannot be a pick and choose one - Bomb subways for Iraq but go back and marry within biraadri.

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Talwar, can you explain to me why a group of African Americans got together and bought tickets so they can go to Afghanistan and fight along side the Taliban? How many of them were married to Afghanis? How many Pakistani Christians are married to white Christians? Even then they feel pain when they hear about Pakistani Christians in Karachi molested because they dared to eat on Ramadan. Much about that never comes out, I am sure if it did come out of Pakistan we would have multi-ethnic Christian suicide bombers blowing mosques up else where. If their struggles and miseries were repeated to all other Christians in world at their churches over and over again I am sure they would do something about. Even Pakistanis in Pakistan don’t know what happens to Christians in Pakistan. It is disgusting what they do to Christians in Karachi. As a Muslim I feel like cutting the nuts off these *******s who commit these crimes against the Christians of Pakistan, how would a Christian feel? In the same line when a Muslim sees atrocities being committed against Muslims he doesn't see race, color, or nationality. Religion is above all of that, at least that is what is thought in Islam. Not marrying someone from other ethnic backgrounds has to do with Amma Abba and cultural differences. But even then it happens.

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Looks like you ate too much in lunch, the alleged suicide bomber were Brits.