I’m talking nowadays compared to countries in South asia and the middle east and other parts of the world between different religious groups and different sects within a religion. is it that people are just more open minded and try to integrate with other belief systems or the atheist system?
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You should take a trip to Northern Ireland, then. Try taking a walk down a major road in the Catholic district of the town of Portadown while holding up a sign saying "I am a proud Protestant Christian" , see what happens, and then come back to Gupshup and post this question.....
....after you get out of hospital, or the morgue.
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....after you get out of hospital, or the morgue.
why would i get out of the morgue unless you mean my soul :D....light humor :p
come on Mad Scientist, that's the case even in a tiny remote part of some rednecky, hill billy county in the deep south of the united states too, i'm sure. i'm talking the majority of the western world not some small district in one particular part of a country.
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Because they are too busy staring at that nekkid girl in pluging sea through blouse and short shorts....
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You should take a trip to Northern Ireland, then. Try taking a walk down a major road in the Catholic district of the town of Portadown while holding up a sign saying "I am a proud Protestant Christian" , see what happens, and then come back to Gupshup and post this question.....
....after you get out of hospital, or the morgue.
kya mazak hai? aa bail mujhe maar , nekkid wala area theek hai wahi jao.
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economic prosperity is a big reason
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economic prosperity is a big reason
That along with overly lavish lifestyle is definitely a factor, I agree.
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Because they are too busy staring at that nekkid girl in pluging sea through blouse and short shorts....
If that saves innocents from being killed in the name of religion, it's not such a bad thing
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I'm talking nowadays compared to countries in South asia and the middle east and other parts of the world between different religious groups and different sects within a religion. is it that people are just more open minded and try to integrate with other belief systems or the atheist system?
It's to do with how secular people are ... some although live in secular countries their conditions are not secularised ... Muslims are like this ... although Muslims in their non-secular outlook are prone to religious sectarianism as you stated. However non-religious sectarianism is present in the West ... civil conflicts in the west are based on this ... some are linked to religious affiliations, such as in Ireland, but it is more political than religious.
In fact religion is often hijacked in south east asia to move masses of people against other masses ... religion is the tool that lobbies support but is also the mask that protects the real powermongers from scrutiny ... people end up blaming religion instead of the people who orchestrate the conflicts.
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This is so true! :k:
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why would i get out of the morgue unless you mean my soul :D....light humor :p
come on Mad Scientist, that's the case even in a tiny remote part of some rednecky, hill billy county in the deep south of the united states too, i'm sure. i'm talking the majority of the western world not some small district in one particular part of a country.
It's not a case of some tiny little insignificant place.
Tony Blair, who for a decade was one of the world's most powerful men, was unable to convert to Catholicism during his time as the UK's leader because of the problems it would have caused to the peace process in Northern Ireland.
Despite attending only Catholic Churches during his time as Prime Minister, Tony Blair had to public insist he was a Protestant. Only after being removed from power, and no longer having an connection to the peace process, did he admit he is now Catholic.
So the sectarian tension in one of the UK's constituent nations is bad enough that even the leader of the UK was unable to freely state which sect of Christianity he believed in. and had to pretend to be from the majority sect in the country.
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economic prosperity is a big reason
a few of those middle eastern countries are filthy rich though ones similar to Qatar and UAE right?
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It's not a case of some tiny little insignificant place.
Tony Blair, who for a decade was one of the world's most powerful men, was unable to convert to Catholicism during his time as the UK's leader because of the problems it would have caused to the peace process in Northern Ireland.
Despite attending only Catholic Churches during his time as Prime Minister, Tony Blair had to public insist he was a Protestant. Only after being removed from power, and no longer having an connection to the peace process, did he admit he is now Catholic.
So the sectarian tension in one of the UK's constituent nations is bad enough that even the leader of the UK was unable to freely state which sect of Christianity he believed in. and had to pretend to be from the majority sect in the country.
i'm talking about religious violence, one religious group killing another religious group. Where do you see that in the UK? i'm not talking about discrimination against a belief system
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a few of those middle eastern countries are filthy rich though ones similar to Qatar and UAE right?
And I think you would notice that religious violence is usually less in these countries. Although it could be for different reasons.
Also when I say economic prosperity, it's the average person's prosperity and happiness..... not the simply the royal ruling elite.
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i'm talking about religious violence, one religious group killing another religious group. Where do you see that in the UK? i'm not talking about discrimination against a belief system
In Northern Ireland!
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i'm talking about religious violence, one religious group killing another religious group. Where do you see that in the UK? i'm not talking about discrimination against a belief system
Other than the worn torn countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan and many others where do you see such killings in Muslim countries, have you ever pondered about the conditions that threw these countries into situations like they are in, have you ever tried to understand the geopolitical, strategic and natural resource snatching games going around those countries. have you ever made yourself educated about the rulers of these countries, if so where do you put them as statesmen, do they care about their countries or their own vested interests, have you ever realized that these rulers are not among the masses of those countries. Have you ever noticed that loyalties of the rulers of war ridden countries are not with states they rule.
Have your ever studied the human nature, philosophy of divide and hate, do you realize that all the human beings are born with similar natural personality traits, do you know that poverty is the mother of all the ethnic, linguistic, religious, social and political divide and hate. have you ever questioned your self as to what makes a society peaceful or violent. Do you know how important is the enforcement of law of the land, do you know that in the absence of law chaos fills the gap and all those who can not protect themselves are wiped out. Do you know the quest for survival turns a perfect human into an animal.
Do you understand what I just said?
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i'm talking about religious violence, one religious group killing another religious group. Where do you see that in the UK? i'm not talking about discrimination against a belief system
you forgot what happened in heart of Europe in former yugoslavia the most secular country witnessed the worst war crimes imaginable i won't even begin the list of horrors that took place their!
UK doesn't see religious wars on its streets today but it has a blood thirsty history and its hands still bloody today as it executes people of other religions overseas (iraq/afghanistan/libya) for various interests usually monetary and power related.
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^ well obviously there was plenty of that nonsense in HISTORY.. the europeans have had plennnnnntyyy of religious and ethnic clashes..
but I suspect the author was talking about the present situation.. and I believe its been answered in many of the above comments.
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I'm talking nowadays compared to countries in South asia and the middle east and other parts of the world between different religious groups and different sects within a religion. is it that people are just more open minded and try to integrate with other belief systems or the atheist system?
People in these regions somehow failed to catch up with the civilization. Don't forget that Europeans history is also full of wars based on religion but they got wise and evolved out of it.
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People in these regions somehow failed to catch up with the civilization. Don't forget that Europeans history is also full of wars based on religion but they got wise and evolved out of it.
your comments summarise why some regiones and their people face and resort to religious intolerance . people can understand in case of malaysia and indonesia they have caught up with the modern world .